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AJ Editor wrote:
City council broods over
horse-boarding proposal
By Terrance Thornton
Independent Newspapers
For the past two years the issue of proposed horse-boarding regulations has been evaluated, assessed and amended.
But now Apache Junction City Council is gearing up to make the proposals a reality.
The council is anticipated to hold a public hearing on the proposed regulations at its June 16 meeting where a vote could take place, according to Apache Junction Councilman Chip Wilson.
The Apache Junction Planning and Zoning Commission on April 28 unanimously voted to make a recommendation to Apache Junction City Council to approve 13 proposals regulating horse-boarding operations within city limits.
All 15 licensed Apache Junction horse-boarding operations have given input on what ought to be included in the governing document and several public hearings have been held over the past year for input on the matter.
Trailer uses, caretaker and camping regulations and lot coverage topped the list of concerns expressed by P&Z members, but the general public has voiced little opposition to the proposed rules.
Although the council’s public hearing was originally slated for June 2, Councilman Wilson says more changes to the proposal are under way.
"We had asked for changes, therefore, I am assuming that they have put it off a week," he said in a phone interview. "The way I understand it is city staff was going to rewrite a couple of the zoning rules and go with what was suggested."
Councilman Wilson says the four-month deliberations done by the P&Z Commission members were, at times, unnecessary.
"My personal opinion is that they got sidetracked too much," he explained. "They got worried about tax issues and enforcement issues, which I feel is not what they are supposed to be worried about."
Councilman Wilson says the issue of horse-boarding regulations began from a citizen complaint on the proper usage of trailers on horse-boarding facilities within city limits, but has evolved into something it is not.
Mr. Wilson says throughout the government process the spirit of what was supposed to be accomplished turned into political infighting.
"This came about prior to me even running for city council," he said. "I am frustrated with all the false information and the false accusations leveled against me. I am not going to gain anything from this."
Councilman Wilson is a member of the Superstition Horsemen’s association and president of the Arizona State Horseman’s Association, but does not participate in any commercial horse-boarding operations.
"This is being passed on as gospel across the whole city," he said of rumors circulating throughout the community claiming he started this effort for personal gain. "All of the horses on my property are either mine or my wife’s."
Councilman Wilson says the goal of these proposals was to educate and assist residents on horse-boarding regulations within city limits.
"Some of those things were issued because of complaints or threats against horse-boarding facilities," he said of the catalyst for creating the proposals now before city council. "It was again to clarify the rules so that the horse-boarding facilities know what they could and could not do."
The issue of using conditional-use permits for certain operations at a horse-boarding facility was not a part of the original proposals, but Councilman Wilson says including that requirement will be helpful for the general public.
"That is primarily to clear the air so even neighbors would know what they can and cannot do," he said of the proposed conditional-use permit requirement. "It can educate the community on what they can do and what they can’t do."
Ed Dison, Superstition Horsemen’s Association president, agrees conditional-use permits are needed to keep neighbors up to speed on the horse-boarding operations within their neighborhoods.
"I think if they add in the conditional-use permit it will help neighbors have a say in it," he said in a phone interview. "That takes care of the stables and anyone new coming in."
Mr. Dison says the regulations are needed.
"The codes were so few and so old that I feel personally that the city did not have a way to enforce it," he said.
According to Apache Junction Planning Manager Fred Baker, a conditional use permit is granted by the P&Z Commission.
"The condition of approval is what they add, which is mostly to inform the neighbors, and the conditions of approval allow the commission to define what they can and cannot do on the property," he said in a phone interview.
Mr. Baker says the most important aspect of a conditional use permit is that it requires the applicant to inform all neighbors and business owners within 300 feet of the proposed operation, which is then followed by a public hearing.
Mr. Dison says he is hopeful for when and if the proposed regulations are approved by Apache Junction City Council.
"I am comfortable with everything that has been decided on," he said. "If it goes through, then I think we have accomplished a great deal."
Although Mr. Dison says getting the regulations through city government is accomplishing a lot, he says once put in place they need to be enforced.
"The city is going to need to step up and enforce these," he explained.
Apache Junction Mayor John Insalaco agrees.
"I don’t want to push the horse people out, we need them, but there is going to have to be code enforcement with some teeth," he said in a phone interview. "Apache Junction is one of the last communities that allow this."
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flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
It is clear you were not the person who I thought was on the Council . I was not sure. Clearly you lack the cognition.
I am very happy about it ! There may be hope for AJ.
EF
Elliot,
Your attempt to mask your sophistry when you impune the mental acuity of another is nothing short of an exercise in futility.
Your specious reasoning has led to many false conclusions and exposed your own callowness and philistinism.
The topic at hand is the horse-boarding proposal and the impact it will have upon the horse-boarding facilities, the supporting businesses and the AJ economy as an entity. Interjections for the sake of name calling are pointless, unproductive, and ... well, I covered that part in my second sentence.
And before you run off the the webmaster, look up my statments. They are not personal attacks, rather observations based on your statements, comments and your posts here.
Last edited on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 06:45 am by J&JFarms
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Ed Dison wrote: flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialogue with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
EF
Mr Fisher, I have spent a few minutes talking with you in the past, this is the reason I do not want to converse with you on any subject, and will insure you are never in my "space". You are correct, I have positions, not anything we share. Advocate? I'm thinking idiot. Your lack of accomplishments in this city is no surprise. Your zero involvement in the community shows the lack of commitment and investment required to hold any type of political position.
Misinformation from political enemies? See previous paragraph.
Any dialogue you direct towards me will be snubbed, just like the emails asking for our support in your last bid for mayor. I would caution against any attempts to align, or associate yourself with our organization. Our membership feels their organization is very important, and I am proud to serve them again this year.
The "fool" has been rushing in for around 15 years. How long would one have to wait before "something gets done".
My time on city council? What city are you talking about? If it was during my time serving the city, how would I know what went on in Apache Junction, wrong city Mr Fisher. You never seem to get anything right.
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Ed Dison wrote: flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialogue with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
EF
Mr Fisher, I have spent a few minutes talking with you in the past, this is the reason I do not want to converse with you on any subject, and will insure you are never in my "space". You are correct, I have positions, not anything we share. Advocate? I'm thinking idiot. Your lack of accomplishments in this city is no surprise. Your zero involvement in the community shows the lack of commitment and investment required to hold any type of political position.
Misinformation from political enemies? See previous paragraph.
Any dialogue you direct towards me will be snubbed, just like the emails asking for our support in your last bid for mayor. I would caution against any attempts to align, or associate yourself with our organization. Our membership feels their organization is very important, and I am proud to serve them again this year.
The "fool" has been rushing in for around 15 years. How long would one have to wait before "something gets done".
My time on city council? What city are you talking about? If it was during my time serving the city, how would I know what went on in Apache Junction, wrong city Mr Fisher. You never seem to get anything right.
Ed Dison
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Ed Dison wrote: flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialogue with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
EF
Mr Fisher, I have spent a few minutes talking with you in the past, this is the reason I do not want to converse with you on any subject, and will insure you are never in my "space". You are correct, I have positions, not anything we share. Advocate? I'm thinking idiot. Your lack of accomplishments in this city is no surprise. Your zero involvement in the community shows the lack of commitment and investment required to hold any type of political position.
Misinformation from political enemies? See previous paragraph.
Any dialogue you direct towards me will be snubbed, just like the emails asking for our support in your last bid for mayor. I would caution against any attempts to align, or associate yourself with our organization. Our membership feels their organization is very important, and I am proud to serve them again this year.
The "fool" has been rushing in for around 15 years. How long would one have to wait before "something gets done".
My time on city council? What city are you talking about? If it was during my time serving the city, how would I know what went on in Apache Junction, wrong city Mr Fisher. You never seem to get anything right.
Ed Dison
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Ed Dison wrote: Ed Dison wrote: flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialogue with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
EF
Mr Fisher, I have spent a few minutes talking with you in the past, this is the reason I do not want to converse with you on any subject, and will insure you are never in my "space". You are correct, I have positions, not anything we share. Advocate? I'm thinking idiot. Your lack of accomplishments in this city is no surprise. Your zero involvement in the community shows the lack of commitment and investment required to hold any type of political position.
Misinformation from political enemies? See previous paragraph.
Any dialogue you direct towards me will be snubbed, just like the emails asking for our support in your last bid for mayor. I would caution against any attempts to align, or associate yourself with our organization. Our membership feels their organization is very important, and I am proud to serve them again this year.
The "fool" has been rushing in for around 15 years. How long would one have to wait before "something gets done".
My time on city council? What city are you talking about? If it was during my time serving the city, how would I know what went on in Apache Junction, wrong city Mr Fisher. You never seem to get anything right.
Ed Dison
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Posted: Sat Jun 20th, 2009 02:34 pm |
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Ed Dison wrote: flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialogue with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
EF
Mr Fisher, I have spent a few minutes talking with you in the past, this is the reason I do not want to converse with you on any subject, and will insure you are never in my "space". You are correct, I have positions, not anything we share. Advocate? I'm thinking idiot. Your lack of accomplishments in this city is no surprise. Your zero involvement in the community shows the lack of commitment and investment required to hold any type of political position.
Misinformation from political enemies? See previous paragraph.
Any dialogue you direct towards me will be snubbed, just like the emails asking for our support in your last bid for mayor. I would caution against any attempts to align, or associate yourself with our organization. Our membership feels their organization is very important, and I am proud to serve them again this year.
The "fool" has been rushing in for around 15 years. How long would one have to wait before "something gets done".
My time on city council? What city are you talking about? If it was during my time serving the city, how would I know what went on in Apache Junction, wrong city Mr Fisher. You never seem to get anything right.
Ed Dison
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Ed Dison wrote: flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialogue with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
EF
Mr Fisher, I have spent a few minutes talking with you in the past, this is the reason I do not want to converse with you on any subject, and will insure you are never in my "space". You are correct, I have positions, not anything we share. Advocate? I'm thinking idiot. Your lack of accomplishments in this city is no surprise. Your zero involvement in the community shows the lack of commitment and investment required to hold any type of political position.
Misinformation from political enemies? See previous paragraph.
Any dialogue you direct towards me will be snubbed, just like the emails asking for our support in your last bid for mayor. I would caution against any attempts to align, or associate yourself with our organization. Our membership feels their organization is very important, and I am proud to serve them again this year.
The "fool" has been rushing in for around 15 years. How long would one have to wait before "something gets done".
My time on city council? What city are you talking about? If it was during my time serving the city, how would I know what went on in Apache Junction, wrong city Mr Fisher. You never seem to get anything right.
Ed Dison
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Ed Dison wrote: flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialogue with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
EF
Mr Fisher, I have spent a few minutes talking with you in the past, this is the reason I do not want to converse with you on any subject, and will insure you are never in my "space". You are correct, I have positions, not anything we share. Advocate? I'm thinking idiot. Your lack of accomplishments in this city is no surprise. Your zero involvement in the community shows the lack of commitment and investment required to hold any type of political position.
Misinformation from political enemies? See previous paragraph.
Any dialogue you direct towards me will be snubbed, just like the emails asking for our support in your last bid for mayor. I would caution against any attempts to align, or associate yourself with our organization. Our membership feels their organization is very important, and I am proud to serve them again this year.
The "fool" has been rushing in for around 15 years. How long would one have to wait before "something gets done".
My time on city council? What city are you talking about? If it was during my time serving the city, how would I know what went on in Apache Junction, wrong city Mr Fisher. You never seem to get anything right.
Ed Dison
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Ed Dison wrote: flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialogue with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
EF
Mr Fisher, I have spent a few minutes talking with you in the past, this is the reason I do not want to converse with you on any subject, and will insure you are never in my "space". You are correct, I have positions, not anything we share. Advocate? I'm thinking idiot. Your lack of accomplishments in this city is no surprise. Your zero involvement in the community shows the lack of commitment and investment required to hold any type of political position.
Misinformation from political enemies? See previous paragraph.
Any dialogue you direct towards me will be snubbed, just like the emails asking for our support in your last bid for mayor. I would caution against any attempts to align, or associate yourself with our organization. Our membership feels their organization is very important, and I am proud to serve them again this year.
The "fool" has been rushing in for around 15 years. How long would one have to wait before "something gets done".
My time on city council? What city are you talking about? If it was during my time serving the city, how would I know what went on in Apache Junction, wrong city Mr Fisher. You never seem to get anything right.
Ed Dison
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Mr Dison
I will make sure your threats are sent to Pinal sheriffs .
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flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
Thank you
Your post speaks for itself! Ignorant , Liar you are!
Mr Fisher, no more warnings.
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It is clear you were not the person who I thought was on the Council . I was not sure. Clearly you lack the cognition.
I am very happy about it ! There may be hope for AJ.
EF
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Mr Dison
Thank you
Your post speaks for itself! Ignorant , Liar you are!
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flyspy007 wrote: Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialogue with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
EF
Mr Fisher, I have spent a few minutes talking with you in the past, this is the reason I do not want to converse with you on any subject, and will insure you are never in my "space". You are correct, I have positions, not anything we share. Advocate? I'm thinking idiot. Your lack of accomplishments in this city is no surprise. Your zero involvement in the community shows the lack of commitment and investment required to hold any type of political position.
Misinformation from political enemies? See previous paragraph.
Any dialogue you direct towards me will be snubbed, just like the emails asking for our support in your last bid for mayor. I would caution against any attempts to align, or associate yourself with our organization. Our membership feels their organization is very important, and I am proud to serve them again this year.
The "fool" has been rushing in for around 15 years. How long would one have to wait before "something gets done".
My time on city council? What city are you talking about? If it was during my time serving the city, how would I know what went on in Apache Junction, wrong city Mr Fisher. You never seem to get anything right.
Ed Dison
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Mr Dison
If you ever spent a few minutes of time actually speaking to me ,I am quite sure you would discover I have been a strong advocate of much of your positions here.
I can only speculate you have some misinformation likely from political enemies telling you things that likely are designed to minimize my knowledge of this century and others . As well as AJ in this time.
I attempted a dialague with you and was snubed!I was told your organization was important. I assume it still is.
My father was the source of much of my knowledge . He passed in 1992 at the age of 68. He was a WWII vet and although not a rural man he loved the west and everything about it. He never had the chance to live here only" live the west" via western films he much loved etc.
My father related how my grandfather was the first on his city block to purchase a Ford pick up truck . Previous to this he had horse and wagon to accomplish his trade.
Even living in Chicago his entire life after the war he still held strong feelings about rural life and respect for rural lifestyle.
In short Mr Dison as the saying go's "often the fool who rushes in sometimes gets the job done."
In fact Mr Dison if I Remember correctly it was during your time on the City Council that the Initiative process for AJ was severly curtailed. If that was you, do you have any feelings about that decision in retrospect?
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Elliot,
What ideas do you have? Other than causing trouble. In case you weren't aware, in every city, all over the U.S., there are different building and property codes. That is why Zoning is important. It isn't an equal protection question.
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Christa_Rizzi wrote: J&JFarms wrote: It is certainly interesting how so many on P&Z are bent on influencing the outcome of the Council vote. How many have a dog in this race?
How many of the Council have been to the boarding facilities? How many are aware of the economic impact of the boarding facilities, especially during winter months?
Oh enough of the hog wash already..
How many of the council members would be permitted by webmaster Dison to visit the facilities?
Every council member I talked with is in favor of supporting the Boarding facilities and preserving our western heritage. They are also aware of the financial impact of the stables on our local economy although no one could provide copies of the mentioned documentation..
Christa Rizzi
Hog Wash? The only one who is fooled is yourself.
Ed Dison has no control over any of the boarding facilities. Clearly you missed the sarcasm. Moreover, how about some names of facilities? The financial documentation is sound, even though you may not have been informed of it.
Public record is a great thing. Folks that have a vested interest in the outcome should have recused themselves, but that is for a future day.
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Christa_Rizzi wrote: J&JFarms wrote: It is certainly interesting how so many on P&Z are bent on influencing the outcome of the Council vote. How many have a dog in this race?
How many of the Council have been to the boarding facilities? How many are aware of the economic impact of the boarding facilities, especially during winter months?
Oh enough of the hog wash already..
How many of the council members would be permitted by webmaster Dison to visit the facilities?
Every council member I talked with is in favor of supporting the Boarding facilities and preserving our western heritage. They are also aware of the financial impact of the stables on our local economy although no one could provide copies of the mentioned documentation..
Christa Rizzi
Hog Wash? The only one who is fooled is yourself.
Ed Dison has no control over any of the boarding facilities. Clearly you missed the sarcasm. Moreover, how about some names of facilities? The financial documentation is sound, even though you may not have been informed of it.
Public record is a great thing. Folks that have a vested interest in the outcome should have recused themselves, but that is for a future day.
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cacomistle wrote: flyspy007 wrote: Dison
If you ever start living in this century and get off your 2.5 acre ponderosa someone will listen to your retro ideas.
Gawd - never thot I'd see the day I'd agree with EF! Hell must be about to freeze over!
And your concerns with horse related issues would be? Mr Fisher, what would you know about this century, or for that matter any other century?
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Christa_Rizzi wrote: This is a public forum correct..
Whether we agree with others opinion is irrelevant everyone has the right to speak
Your self appointment as newszap webmaster is inappropriate...
Christa Rizzi
Ms Rizzi, you are correct, everyone has a right to speak. This is a public forum, and everyone here has the right to disagree just as you and I do. Your unwillingness or will to type is your decision, I'm not sitting over your keyboard. I would be one to assume that in your mind whomever dominates a few of these topics is the webmaster, just as you did with the recall people. Did you find the economic report that is available to everyone? It's forty-three pages, but if you would like I can print it out for you. What would you know about appropriateness?
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flyspy007 wrote: Dison
If you ever start living in this century and get off your 2.5 acre ponderosa someone will listen to your retro ideas.
Gawd - never thot I'd see the day I'd agree with EF! Hell must be about to freeze over!
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Dison
If you ever start living in this century and get off your 2.5 acre ponderosa someone will listen to your retro ideas.
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This is a public forum correct..
Whether we agree with others opinion is irrelevant everyone has the right to speak
Your self appointment as newszap webmaster is inappropriate...
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flyspy007 wrote: The time may have arrived to consider ending at large representation on the city council and have members elected from districts.
It seems there are issues on the north side of Apache Junction that require more focused attention and likewise for the south side of town.
Apache Junction is getting large and complex in terms of the various interests competing for attention.
Mr. Fisher, lose yourself in another topic, your not needed in horse issues.
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| Like I would pass it too if 300-400 phone calls came in asking "what about my fence." Only hog wash here is if you believe they would have had the flyer not went out.
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The time may have arrived to consider ending at large representation on the city council and have members elected from districts.
It seems there are issues on the north side of Apache Junction that require more focused attention and likewise for the south side of town.
Apache Junction is getting large and complex in terms of the various interests competing for attention.
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Christa_Rizzi wrote: J&JFarms wrote: It is certainly interesting how so many on P&Z are bent on influencing the outcome of the Council vote. How many have a dog in this race?
How many of the Council have been to the boarding facilities? How many are aware of the economic impact of the boarding facilities, especially during winter months?
Oh enough of the hog wash already..
How many of the council members would be permitted by webmaster Dison to visit the facilities?
Every council member I talked with is in favor of supporting the Boarding facilities and preserving our western heritage. They are also aware of the financial impact of the stables on our local economy although no one could provide copies of the mentioned documentation..
Christa Rizzi
Ms Rizzi, welcome back. I'm sure all of the city council members, and mayor would be welcome at any of the boarding facilities in Apache Junction. Before voting on an issue such as this, one would have thought the visits/homework would have already been done, considering they were supposed to vote on this last night.
Have you asked every council member if they support camping, six foot front fences, and all of the OTHER issues P&Z had a problem with? Everyone knows the council is in favor of supporting the stables and preserving the western lifestyle, but on their terms.
The financial impact will be realized after this coming winter. The fact that P&Z kept this in their hands for so long, for whatever the reasons may be, has already had a impact on the upcoming economy. Winter visitors that came here this last season and every season before, came to a few of these P&Z meetings, with many of them speaking in support of the proposed codes, only to feel their concerns fell on deaf ears. These people plan a year in advance to winter in the west, unfortunately many are planning on further west than Apache Junction.
Copies of the financial impact have been provided in the past to all of the council members, and mayor with the exception of the one that sits on the extreme north. I see the same people sitting on the bench, nothing has changed, really, so did they forget? If you would like to review this yourself, go to the Arizona State Horseman's
Association's web site.
Hog wash? Not unless you bring it back here with you, again.
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J&JFarms wrote: It is certainly interesting how so many on P&Z are bent on influencing the outcome of the Council vote. How many have a dog in this race?
How many of the Council have been to the boarding facilities? How many are aware of the economic impact of the boarding facilities, especially during winter months?
Oh enough of the hog wash already..
How many of the council members would be permitted by webmaster Dison to visit the facilities?
Every council member I talked with is in favor of supporting the Boarding facilities and preserving our western heritage. They are also aware of the financial impact of the stables on our local economy although no one could provide copies of the mentioned documentation..
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ALERT, P&Z COMMISSIONER'S PETITION STOLEN FROM FEED STORE.
It was reported today, that a petition placed by a well known Planning & Zoning Commissioner at the feed store on Idaho Road, was stolen. Employees say the commissioner was unbelievably upset. Witnesses said they spotted a man riding a very fast horse, maybe a "walker", eastbound on Superstition Blvd., possibly headed for the mountain, waving a piece of paper in the air and yelling. Witnesses gave the description of the man and his horse as follows, big horse, man with cowboy hat. Anyone with any knowledge of his whereabouts please contact this blog.
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It is certainly interesting how so many on P&Z are bent on influencing the outcome of the Council vote. How many have a dog in this race?
How many of the Council have been to the boarding facilities? How many are aware of the economic impact of the boarding facilities, especially during winter months?
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Ed Dison wrote: I understand there is a petition and a flyer circulating around town against the stables. Anyone here have a copy or know where they originated from? It's my understanding these are to be presented to city council.
Ed Dison
Interesting, I overheard a P&Z commissioner talking about "the petition" at tonight's council meeting. Did I hear him say it came from a fellow commissioner? Interesting to see whats on their hard drives. Ethics codes violations seem to abound, at least according to state laws. Isn't it true that when a city has no existing law on their books, that state law prevails? This applies in all the cities in Arizona I've talked with, except Apache Junction?
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I understand there is a petition and a flyer circulating around town against the stables. Anyone here have a copy or know where they originated from? It's my understanding these are to be presented to city council.
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To be fair, a person needs to sit down and ask themselves if horse boarding facilities are a benefit to AJ. A honest person will recognize that boarding facilities bring $ into AJ from out of town visitors, events, and tourists. The parcels on which the boarding facilities are perfectly situated to the down town area so as to allow significant down town development without any danger of encroachment.
From a new business standpoint small mom and pop shops aren't going to generate enough revenue to have any significant impact. We aren't actively trying to run them out of town, so why focus on the boarding facilities?
Everyone needs to understand that now that the boarding issue is out of the P&Z and in front of the council, the next target is rental properties. There is a systematic implementation of more restrictive and overbearing regulations under the guise of being for the greater benefit of the City. It will not end until the city is completely enveloped by urban sprawl.
Meanwhile law enforcement, code enforcement, and the targeting of urban blight should be addressed. Btw horseracer, blight is generally associated with an overall deteriorated condition, not weeds or boxes on the porch.
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katy8520 wrote: Scrutinize the final proposal very carefully before it goes to Council for a vote.
This has been done. What is council going to do with it? We have up to four members that, in my opinion, don't really care for horses. There have been requests made by the Chamber to find a horse for the Mayor to ride in the day of the cowboy parade. Is he looking for support from the horse community? The four I speak of do not want overnight camping what so ever, and a few other things. There are some that support Madam Chairperson, and believe that there was no misuse of power, was she directed by those? We need to keep a very close eye on this issue.
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| Scrutinize the final proposal very carefully before it goes to Council for a vote.
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What are everyone's views? The time it took alone in P&Z smells, does anyone here see what I see?
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Ed Dison wrote: Christa_Rizzi wrote: Can anyone tell me why boarding is not allowed on 1 1/4 acre?
Christa Rizzi
Ms Rizzi, after years of this issue, and people not interested until after the fact, Myself and others grow tired of explaining to those like yourself, about the above mentioned issue. I suggest you do this on your own, it will be more rewarding for you.
Ed Dison
Christa - if you want to discuss the pro's and cons of allowing boarding on 1 1/4 acre properties - please start a new thread on that topic. P & Z has already stated that allowing boarding on smaller properties (1 1/4 acres) was an issue separate from the one at hand and would require it's own proposal and public support.
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"Equine Regulations" Section 6.0130, Oct 1985, Current
"Equine Regulations" Section 6.130, Case AM-6-08, Proposed
The city adopted the existing Pinal County codes for boarding facilities in 1978 when Apache Junction incorporated as a city. These codes required a minimum 5 acre parcel. In 1985, with SHA's help and input, the minimum was reduced to 2.5 gross acres. The existing codes allow unlimited horses on 1.25 gross, or 1.0 acre net lots for personal use, but not boarding or training. The proposed codes, if passed, will allow training, but no boarding on 1.25 gross, or 1.0 acre net lots. The thought for limited boarding, in conjunction with training may not be out of the question, if approached correctly.
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Ed Dison wrote: ..... Myself and others grow tired of explaining to those like yourself, about the above mentioned issue. I suggest you do this on your own, it will be more rewarding for you.
Ed Dison
Wellllllll....... THAT certainly was helpful and constructive. Thanks for the info. I was wondering the same thing.
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Christa_Rizzi wrote: Can anyone tell me why boarding is not allowed on 1 1/4 acre?
Christa Rizzi
Ms Rizzi, after years of this issue, and people not interested until after the fact, Myself and others grow tired of explaining to those like yourself, about the above mentioned issue. I suggest you do this on your own, it will be more rewarding for you.
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Can anyone tell me why boarding is not allowed on 1 1/4 acre?
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Christa_Rizzi wrote: Ed Dison wrote: What is the Mayor thinking when he states "I don't want to push the horse people out"? Is this a decision he thinks he can make by himself? And states "we need them"? Who is he referring to? The circle? If he truly wants the horse people here, he needs to wake up! The winter horse people are already making "other plans" for next winter. Some have called and said they are going to Wickenberg where they feel more welcome. I expect we are going to see about a 70% drop in winter horse people this upcoming season. Some have stated Apache Junction is becoming unfriendly to horse people, is this just a perception? My question is, what do we have to do to make the city attractive to these folks to hopefully bring them back? All the years of hard work, now everyone has to start from almost scratch. Information I received today is going to effect the city very hard in the tax coffers, one local business put $150,000.00 in tax revenues in the Apache Junction City's bank account just for last season alone. How many businesses is this going to effect, and what kind of losses in tax revenue is the city going to see? For years we have been pointing out the dollar figures the horse community brings in every year, maybe now they will believe us. If we don't do something fast, the main attraction here will be the "ghost town" that was once Apache Junction. I guess at that point, we can ask Madam Chairperson what the property values in "her neighborhood" are.
Ed Dison
Sounds to me like the mayor wants to help keep Apache Junction a horse friendly community? I don't understand why stating that is a "bad" thing..
I'm not understanding this "circle" thing ..?
You, and those attending P and Z brought up a very good point about the economy. I plan to visit the city clerks office to learn how we can narrow down and verify what financial impact the horse "industry" (lack of better word) has on Apache Junction.
I agree losing winter visitors would have a domino effect on our economy..
Christa Rizzi
Ms Rizzi, I know you are just trying to help, but the research has been taken care of over the years. Close to $100,000.00 was spent on a study already, this along with information on the local impact has been presented to city council. Everyone has different views as we have already concluded earlier here, the mayor has his views, you have yours, and I have mine. All that was asked of you was YOUR VIEW, and no one is going to criticize you for that. The research that you would need to participate in any capacity in this issue would take you years, this is why I only ask for your VIEWS. Good luck in your crusade, and say Hi to Gail for me.
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Ed Dison wrote: What is the Mayor thinking when he states "I don't want to push the horse people out"? Is this a decision he thinks he can make by himself? And states "we need them"? Who is he referring to? The circle? If he truly wants the horse people here, he needs to wake up! The winter horse people are already making "other plans" for next winter. Some have called and said they are going to Wickenberg where they feel more welcome. I expect we are going to see about a 70% drop in winter horse people this upcoming season. Some have stated Apache Junction is becoming unfriendly to horse people, is this just a perception? My question is, what do we have to do to make the city attractive to these folks to hopefully bring them back? All the years of hard work, now everyone has to start from almost scratch. Information I received today is going to effect the city very hard in the tax coffers, one local business put $150,000.00 in tax revenues in the Apache Junction City's bank account just for last season alone. How many businesses is this going to effect, and what kind of losses in tax revenue is the city going to see? For years we have been pointing out the dollar figures the horse community brings in every year, maybe now they will believe us. If we don't do something fast, the main attraction here will be the "ghost town" that was once Apache Junction. I guess at that point, we can ask Madam Chairperson what the property values in "her neighborhood" are.
Ed Dison
Sounds to me like the mayor wants to help keep Apache Junction a horse friendly community? I don't understand why stating that is a "bad" thing..
I'm not understanding this "circle" thing ..?
You, and those attending P and Z brought up a very good point about the economy. I plan to visit the city clerks office to learn how we can narrow down and verify what financial impact the horse "industry" (lack of better word) has on Apache Junction.
I agree losing winter visitors would have a domino effect on our economy..
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What is the Mayor thinking when he states "I don't want to push the horse people out"? Is this a decision he thinks he can make by himself? And states "we need them"? Who is he referring to? The circle? If he truly wants the horse people here, he needs to wake up! The winter horse people are already making "other plans" for next winter. Some have called and said they are going to Wickenberg where they feel more welcome. I expect we are going to see about a 70% drop in winter horse people this upcoming season. Some have stated Apache Junction is becoming unfriendly to horse people, is this just a perception? My question is, what do we have to do to make the city attractive to these folks to hopefully bring them back? All the years of hard work, now everyone has to start from almost scratch. Information I received today is going to effect the city very hard in the tax coffers, one local business put $150,000.00 in tax revenues in the Apache Junction City's bank account just for last season alone. How many businesses is this going to effect, and what kind of losses in tax revenue is the city going to see? For years we have been pointing out the dollar figures the horse community brings in every year, maybe now they will believe us. If we don't do something fast, the main attraction here will be the "ghost town" that was once Apache Junction. I guess at that point, we can ask Madam Chairperson what the property values in "her neighborhood" are.
Ed Dison
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| Broods, come on Mr. Thornton, that's a pretty lite word considering how they really feel on the subject, wouldn't you say Sir ?
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horse-boarding proposal
By Terrance Thornton
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For the past two years the issue of proposed horse-boarding regulations has been evaluated, assessed and amended.
But now Apache Junction City Council is gearing up to make the proposals a reality.
The council is anticipated to hold a public hearing on the proposed regulations at its June 16 meeting where a vote could take place, according to Apache Junction Councilman Chip Wilson.
The Apache Junction Planning and Zoning Commission on April 28 unanimously voted to make a recommendation to Apache Junction City Council to approve 13 proposals regulating horse-boarding operations within city limits.
All 15 licensed Apache Junction horse-boarding operations have given input on what ought to be included in the governing document and several public hearings have been held over the past year for input on the matter.
Trailer uses, caretaker and camping regulations and lot coverage topped the list of concerns expressed by P&Z members, but the general public has voiced little opposition to the proposed rules.
Although the council’s public hearing was originally slated for June 2, Councilman Wilson says more changes to the proposal are under way.
"We had asked for changes, therefore, I am assuming that they have put it off a week," he said in a phone interview. "The way I understand it is city staff was going to rewrite a couple of the zoning rules and go with what was suggested."
Councilman Wilson says the four-month deliberations done by the P&Z Commission members were, at times, unnecessary.
"My personal opinion is that they got sidetracked too much," he explained. "They got worried about tax issues and enforcement issues, which I feel is not what they are supposed to be worried about."
Councilman Wilson says the issue of horse-boarding regulations began from a citizen complaint on the proper usage of trailers on horse-boarding facilities within city limits, but has evolved into something it is not.
Mr. Wilson says throughout the government process the spirit of what was supposed to be accomplished turned into political infighting.
"This came about prior to me even running for city council," he said. "I am frustrated with all the false information and the false accusations leveled against me. I am not going to gain anything from this."
Councilman Wilson is a member of the Superstition Horsemen’s association and president of the Arizona State Horseman’s Association, but does not participate in any commercial horse-boarding operations.
"This is being passed on as gospel across the whole city," he said of rumors circulating throughout the community claiming he started this effort for personal gain. "All of the horses on my property are either mine or my wife’s."
Councilman Wilson says the goal of these proposals was to educate and assist residents on horse-boarding regulations within city limits.
"Some of those things were issued because of complaints or threats against horse-boarding facilities," he said of the catalyst for creating the proposals now before city council. "It was again to clarify the rules so that the horse-boarding facilities know what they could and could not do."
The issue of using conditional-use permits for certain operations at a horse-boarding facility was not a part of the original proposals, but Councilman Wilson says including that requirement will be helpful for the general public.
"That is primarily to clear the air so even neighbors would know what they can and cannot do," he said of the proposed conditional-use permit requirement. "It can educate the community on what they can do and what they can’t do."
Ed Dison, Superstition Horsemen’s Association president, agrees conditional-use permits are needed to keep neighbors up to speed on the horse-boarding operations within their neighborhoods.
"I think if they add in the conditional-use permit it will help neighbors have a say in it," he said in a phone interview. "That takes care of the stables and anyone new coming in."
Mr. Dison says the regulations are needed.
"The codes were so few and so old that I feel personally that the city did not have a way to enforce it," he said.
According to Apache Junction Planning Manager Fred Baker, a conditional use permit is granted by the P&Z Commission.
"The condition of approval is what they add, which is mostly to inform the neighbors, and the conditions of approval allow the commission to define what they can and cannot do on the property," he said in a phone interview.
Mr. Baker says the most important aspect of a conditional use permit is that it requires the applicant to inform all neighbors and business owners within 300 feet of the proposed operation, which is then followed by a public hearing.
Mr. Dison says he is hopeful for when and if the proposed regulations are approved by Apache Junction City Council.
"I am comfortable with everything that has been decided on," he said. "If it goes through, then I think we have accomplished a great deal."
Although Mr. Dison says getting the regulations through city government is accomplishing a lot, he says once put in place they need to be enforced.
"The city is going to need to step up and enforce these," he explained.
Apache Junction Mayor John Insalaco agrees.
"I don’t want to push the horse people out, we need them, but there is going to have to be code enforcement with some teeth," he said in a phone interview. "Apache Junction is one of the last communities that allow this."
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