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azsu wrote: this is an interesting article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24657179/
I'm glad the lady in Anthem got results...I had to go thru the ROC, the City of Surprise, and the BBB to get Pulte to make simple repairs while the house was under warrenty. I think the lady in Anthem was successful was because, Pulte saw she was not going to slither away into the night, and the repairs were not expensive to make/
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this is an interesting article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24657179/
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Get out there and get after them -- I wish you all the best of luck! They need to learn their shoddy workmanship will haunt them by the people they've tried to screw over. I am very skeptical about what the neighborhoods are going to turn into in the fastest growing areas of this valley. The homes, for the most part, were slapped together just to get them up and put more money into developer's pockets so they could move on to their next project(s). As fast as the people were moving in, they just might be moving out. Not only are so many upside down in their mortgages (with minus equity), these very homes are possibly falling apart.
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BB35 wrote: I sure hope you are right, SR!
I know for a fact several folks in my neighborhood, have taken out option ARM second mortgages (the worst kind). They did this to finance vacations, new cars, and home improvements. This worries me a lot...
Whether we like it or not, we in SCG are in the same boat... So far goodness sakes everyone, don't knock a hole in our boat... So let's not let the boat maker get away with selling us leaky tubs.
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I sure hope you are right, SR!
I know for a fact several folks in my neighborhood, have taken out option ARM second mortgages (the worst kind). They did this to finance vacations, new cars, and home improvements. This worries me a lot...
Whether we like it or not, we in SCG are in the same boat... So far goodness sakes everyone, don't knock a hole in our boat...
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BB35 wrote: You mean that there are houses built by Pulte that the foundations cracked into two separate pieces??? How can such a thing be repaired?
If true, I am not surprised with phase four being built in a sand wash... The real Del Webb installed a special foundation on "soft" lots to prevent cracking..
What worries me is these poor quality houses , the Pulte lawsuit, and the bad recession (depression, depression is not politically correct) will force people to "walk away" from their homes (bought after 2003). How can you sell a damaged house in the present market???
Once the "walk aways" start, it will turn into an avalanche of departures. This could be the end of SCG. There is nothing the Board can do.... I really really hope this doesn't happen. But it is happening all over the country.....
What is coming economically will make the 1930s look like a picnic in the park. Then to top it off, we have the three stooges running for president.
I don't think ppl in Grand will be walking away from habitable house because many, if not most, were bought with cash so the problem ppl have with the decreased value being less than their mortgage doesn't apply, I don't think...I do know of one woman here who has cracks running across the center of her tiled room..the windows no longer fit properly nor do the doors work properly. she began litigation prior to Kasden coming in...my understanding from her is that the home cannot be satisforly repaired since the expansive soil under her slab is the problem. She is suing to have Pulte buy her house.
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rvukanovich wrote: As these homes were built and inspected by the City of Surprise’s building department, has the City issued any statements how this could have happened? Will the City be included in the homeowners law suite?
Interesting question..the city has stated they were so overwhemed by the growth in Surprise during that period, the inspection process was less than adequate. I had an issue with something which I subsequently learned was required by city ordinance. I called Pulte, they refused to do the work claiming that the City had approved the house as it was...I then called the City and they responded that Pulte's claim was nonsense...a satisfactory inspection by the City does not relieve the builder from adhereing to a local ordinance.
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The city should be included. The City should have never issued a letter of occupancy for this community. It has had problems from day 1 that neither the City or Del Webb want to admit to. Alas, kick backs is the term that is used under these circumstances.
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As these homes were built and inspected by the City of Surprise’s building department, has the City issued any statements how this could have happened? Will the City be included in the homeowners law suite?
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As these homes were built and inspected by the City of Surprise’s building department, has the City issued any statements how this could have happened? Will the City be included in the homeowners law suite?
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You mean that there are houses built by Pulte that the foundations cracked into two separate pieces??? How can such a thing be repaired?
If true, I am not surprised with phase four being built in a sand wash... The real Del Webb installed a special foundation on "soft" lots to prevent cracking..
What worries me is these poor quality houses , the Pulte lawsuit, and the bad recession (depression, depression is not politically correct) will force people to "walk away" from their homes (bought after 2003). How can you sell a damaged house in the present market???
Once the "walk aways" start, it will turn into an avalanche of departures. This could be the end of SCG. There is nothing the Board can do.... I really really hope this doesn't happen. But it is happening all over the country.....
What is coming economically will make the 1930s look like a picnic in the park. Then to top it off, we have the three stooges running for president.
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deuce wrote: sometimes rational wrote: deuce wrote: ninuchy2 wrote: No Cindisue, I don't think Pulte stands behind their homes, they are really shoddy builders, always have been and will continue to do so. I don't think that homeowners should have to pay for these repairs, I am glad they are sueing. It doesn't hurt me because I am going nowhere, I can ride out the bad press. I just don't think that it is fair to call the letter threatening, because both parties are creating a very negative atmosphere. Bringing in the Media does even more harm. I hope they win, but Pulte is right, it will be a long time before this gets settled at the homeowners expense, and I mean every homeowner in Sun City Grands expense because of the bad press, the lower our propertys will be worth.
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ninuchy2 wrote: Not only is Pulte going to make it harder to sell your home, but everyone involved in the lawsuit is going to make it harder to sell your home because of the news media coverage we have already had. Who wants to buy into a community like Sun City Grand if we broadcast how poorly built our homes are. Yes I received the letter, but I did not feel threatened by it, and I am not part of the law suit. I find it laughable. They stand behind their homes, they won't live in them but they stand behind them. Pulte was disgraced a few years ago on DATELINE about their shoddy homes that they build. Del Webb is the one that sold us out to a unreliable builder. Del Webb built some houses that need to be part of that lawsuit but because they are over 9 years old the law firm will not touch them.
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BB35 wrote: Did everyone get Plute's threating letter? If you join the lawsuit Plute will make sure that you will have a hard time selling your house....
The letter was totally inappropriate since it was sent to those already involved and represented by legal counsel. If Pulte had stepped up to the plate and done the right thing, as I understand Del Webb, did, they would not have alienated as many homeowners as they have....these foundation cracks in question by homeowners are are real. The alternative to legal action is just learning to live with a house broken into two pieces, or paying for the repairs yourself...rest assured...Pulte will not fix out of warrenty homes, according to my experience with them, and AZ is not an 'implied warrenty' state..
ninuchy2, two question for you. !. Do you think that if Pulte stood behind their homes there would be a lawsuit? 2. You think those that have problems should just live with it or pay for the repairs themselves, so that someone else can sell their home a little faster?
If you're part of the lawsuit, the reason won't be able to sell your home is because you won't be able to convey clear title. In essence it's the same thing as having a lien against your property. You won't believe how long it will take before this matter is resolved. In fact, some of the SCG residents will be deceased before resolution is reached.
About half of those involved come under the arbitration clause.. Are you sure you know what you're talking about? I don't think so. There is no provision for settling these through arbitration. Hence, the lawsuit. So much for conventional wisdom. litigation won't apply to them..as to the others, these things are almost settled out of court. Your right . . . in 2015? Like I said, many of the owners will deceased. How long have you lived in SCG? Are you part of the lawsuit or are you swing from outside the batter's box? I thought so.
Don't know which law school you dropped out of, but my contract calls for arbitration in the event of a dispute...the Kasden law firm has made it clear that about the the participants will come under the arbitration clause because the contract dictates it. So, it is entirely possibly I am wrong, and the Kasden law firm is wrong, and you are right but i seriously doubt it. I am a part of the action so I possibly know a teeny bit more than you about what's going on with it since you're obviously not involved (nor aware). By the way, since you predict "many' of the litigants will be dead in 7 years, I suppose you're also a prominent physician.
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sometimes rational wrote: deuce wrote: ninuchy2 wrote: No Cindisue, I don't think Pulte stands behind their homes, they are really shoddy builders, always have been and will continue to do so. I don't think that homeowners should have to pay for these repairs, I am glad they are sueing. It doesn't hurt me because I am going nowhere, I can ride out the bad press. I just don't think that it is fair to call the letter threatening, because both parties are creating a very negative atmosphere. Bringing in the Media does even more harm. I hope they win, but Pulte is right, it will be a long time before this gets settled at the homeowners expense, and I mean every homeowner in Sun City Grands expense because of the bad press, the lower our propertys will be worth.
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ninuchy2 wrote: Not only is Pulte going to make it harder to sell your home, but everyone involved in the lawsuit is going to make it harder to sell your home because of the news media coverage we have already had. Who wants to buy into a community like Sun City Grand if we broadcast how poorly built our homes are. Yes I received the letter, but I did not feel threatened by it, and I am not part of the law suit. I find it laughable. They stand behind their homes, they won't live in them but they stand behind them. Pulte was disgraced a few years ago on DATELINE about their shoddy homes that they build. Del Webb is the one that sold us out to a unreliable builder. Del Webb built some houses that need to be part of that lawsuit but because they are over 9 years old the law firm will not touch them.
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BB35 wrote: Did everyone get Plute's threating letter? If you join the lawsuit Plute will make sure that you will have a hard time selling your house....
The letter was totally inappropriate since it was sent to those already involved and represented by legal counsel. If Pulte had stepped up to the plate and done the right thing, as I understand Del Webb, did, they would not have alienated as many homeowners as they have....these foundation cracks in question by homeowners are are real. The alternative to legal action is just learning to live with a house broken into two pieces, or paying for the repairs yourself...rest assured...Pulte will not fix out of warrenty homes, according to my experience with them, and AZ is not an 'implied warrenty' state..
ninuchy2, two question for you. !. Do you think that if Pulte stood behind their homes there would be a lawsuit? 2. You think those that have problems should just live with it or pay for the repairs themselves, so that someone else can sell their home a little faster?
If you're part of the lawsuit, the reason won't be able to sell your home is because you won't be able to convey clear title. In essence it's the same thing as having a lien against your property. You won't believe how long it will take before this matter is resolved. In fact, some of the SCG residents will be deceased before resolution is reached.
About half of those involved come under the arbitration clause.. Are you sure you know what you're talking about? I don't think so. There is no provision for settling these through arbitration. Hence, the lawsuit. So much for conventional wisdom. litigation won't apply to them..as to the others, these things are almost settled out of court. Your right . . . in 2015? Like I said, many of the owners will deceased. How long have you lived in SCG? Are you part of the lawsuit or are you swing from outside the batter's box? I thought so.
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deuce wrote: ninuchy2 wrote: No Cindisue, I don't think Pulte stands behind their homes, they are really shoddy builders, always have been and will continue to do so. I don't think that homeowners should have to pay for these repairs, I am glad they are sueing. It doesn't hurt me because I am going nowhere, I can ride out the bad press. I just don't think that it is fair to call the letter threatening, because both parties are creating a very negative atmosphere. Bringing in the Media does even more harm. I hope they win, but Pulte is right, it will be a long time before this gets settled at the homeowners expense, and I mean every homeowner in Sun City Grands expense because of the bad press, the lower our propertys will be worth.
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ninuchy2 wrote: Not only is Pulte going to make it harder to sell your home, but everyone involved in the lawsuit is going to make it harder to sell your home because of the news media coverage we have already had. Who wants to buy into a community like Sun City Grand if we broadcast how poorly built our homes are. Yes I received the letter, but I did not feel threatened by it, and I am not part of the law suit. I find it laughable. They stand behind their homes, they won't live in them but they stand behind them. Pulte was disgraced a few years ago on DATELINE about their shoddy homes that they build. Del Webb is the one that sold us out to a unreliable builder. Del Webb built some houses that need to be part of that lawsuit but because they are over 9 years old the law firm will not touch them.
sometimes rational wrote:
BB35 wrote: Did everyone get Plute's threating letter? If you join the lawsuit Plute will make sure that you will have a hard time selling your house....
The letter was totally inappropriate since it was sent to those already involved and represented by legal counsel. If Pulte had stepped up to the plate and done the right thing, as I understand Del Webb, did, they would not have alienated as many homeowners as they have....these foundation cracks in question by homeowners are are real. The alternative to legal action is just learning to live with a house broken into two pieces, or paying for the repairs yourself...rest assured...Pulte will not fix out of warrenty homes, according to my experience with them, and AZ is not an 'implied warrenty' state..
ninuchy2, two question for you. !. Do you think that if Pulte stood behind their homes there would be a lawsuit? 2. You think those that have problems should just live with it or pay for the repairs themselves, so that someone else can sell their home a little faster?
If you're part of the lawsuit, the reason won't be able to sell your home is because you won't be able to convey clear title. In essence it's the same thing as having a lien against your property. You won't believe how long it will take before this matter is resolved. In fact, some of the SCG residents will be deceased before resolution is reached.
About half of those involved come under the arbitration clause..litigation won't apply to them..as to the others, these things are almost settled out of court.
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ninuchy2 wrote: No Cindisue, I don't think Pulte stands behind their homes, they are really shoddy builders, always have been and will continue to do so. I don't think that homeowners should have to pay for these repairs, I am glad they are sueing. It doesn't hurt me because I am going nowhere, I can ride out the bad press. I just don't think that it is fair to call the letter threatening, because both parties are creating a very negative atmosphere. Bringing in the Media does even more harm. I hope they win, but Pulte is right, it will be a long time before this gets settled at the homeowners expense, and I mean every homeowner in Sun City Grands expense because of the bad press, the lower our propertys will be worth.
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ninuchy2 wrote: Not only is Pulte going to make it harder to sell your home, but everyone involved in the lawsuit is going to make it harder to sell your home because of the news media coverage we have already had. Who wants to buy into a community like Sun City Grand if we broadcast how poorly built our homes are. Yes I received the letter, but I did not feel threatened by it, and I am not part of the law suit. I find it laughable. They stand behind their homes, they won't live in them but they stand behind them. Pulte was disgraced a few years ago on DATELINE about their shoddy homes that they build. Del Webb is the one that sold us out to a unreliable builder. Del Webb built some houses that need to be part of that lawsuit but because they are over 9 years old the law firm will not touch them.
sometimes rational wrote:
BB35 wrote: Did everyone get Plute's threating letter? If you join the lawsuit Plute will make sure that you will have a hard time selling your house....
The letter was totally inappropriate since it was sent to those already involved and represented by legal counsel. If Pulte had stepped up to the plate and done the right thing, as I understand Del Webb, did, they would not have alienated as many homeowners as they have....these foundation cracks in question by homeowners are are real. The alternative to legal action is just learning to live with a house broken into two pieces, or paying for the repairs yourself...rest assured...Pulte will not fix out of warrenty homes, according to my experience with them, and AZ is not an 'implied warrenty' state..
ninuchy2, two question for you. !. Do you think that if Pulte stood behind their homes there would be a lawsuit? 2. You think those that have problems should just live with it or pay for the repairs themselves, so that someone else can sell their home a little faster?
If you're part of the lawsuit, the reason won't be able to sell your home is because you won't be able to convey clear title. In essence it's the same thing as having a lien against your property. You won't believe how long it will take before this matter is resolved. In fact, some of the SCG residents will be deceased before resolution is reached.
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No Cindisue, I don't think Pulte stands behind their homes, they are really shoddy builders, always have been and will continue to do so. I don't think that homeowners should have to pay for these repairs, I am glad they are sueing. It doesn't hurt me because I am going nowhere, I can ride out the bad press. I just don't think that it is fair to call the letter threatening, because both parties are creating a very negative atmosphere. Bringing in the Media does even more harm. I hope they win, but Pulte is right, it will be a long time before this gets settled at the homeowners expense, and I mean every homeowner in Sun City Grands expense because of the bad press, the lower our propertys will be worth.
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ninuchy2 wrote: Not only is Pulte going to make it harder to sell your home, but everyone involved in the lawsuit is going to make it harder to sell your home because of the news media coverage we have already had. Who wants to buy into a community like Sun City Grand if we broadcast how poorly built our homes are. Yes I received the letter, but I did not feel threatened by it, and I am not part of the law suit. I find it laughable. They stand behind their homes, they won't live in them but they stand behind them. Pulte was disgraced a few years ago on DATELINE about their shoddy homes that they build. Del Webb is the one that sold us out to a unreliable builder. Del Webb built some houses that need to be part of that lawsuit but because they are over 9 years old the law firm will not touch them.
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BB35 wrote: Did everyone get Plute's threating letter? If you join the lawsuit Plute will make sure that you will have a hard time selling your house....
The letter was totally inappropriate since it was sent to those already involved and represented by legal counsel. If Pulte had stepped up to the plate and done the right thing, as I understand Del Webb, did, they would not have alienated as many homeowners as they have....these foundation cracks in question by homeowners are are real. The alternative to legal action is just learning to live with a house broken into two pieces, or paying for the repairs yourself...rest assured...Pulte will not fix out of warrenty homes, according to my experience with them, and AZ is not an 'implied warrenty' state..
ninuchy2, two question for you. !. Do you think that if Pulte stood behind their homes there would be a lawsuit? 2. You think those that have problems should just live with it or pay for the repairs themselves, so that someone else can sell their home a little faster?
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ninuchy2 wrote: Not only is Pulte going to make it harder to sell your home, but everyone involved in the lawsuit is going to make it harder to sell your home because of the news media coverage we have already had. Who wants to buy into a community like Sun City Grand if we broadcast how poorly built our homes are. Yes I received the letter, but I did not feel threatened by it, and I am not part of the law suit. I find it laughable. They stand behind their homes, they won't live in them but they stand behind them. Pulte was disgraced a few years ago on DATELINE about their shoddy homes that they build. Del Webb is the one that sold us out to a unreliable builder. Del Webb built some houses that need to be part of that lawsuit but because they are over 9 years old the law firm will not touch them.
sometimes rational wrote:
BB35 wrote: Did everyone get Plute's threating letter? If you join the lawsuit Plute will make sure that you will have a hard time selling your house....
The letter was totally inappropriate since it was sent to those already involved and represented by legal counsel. If Pulte had stepped up to the plate and done the right thing, as I understand Del Webb, did, they would not have alienated as many homeowners as they have....these foundation cracks in question by homeowners are are real. The alternative to legal action is just learning to live with a house broken into two pieces, or paying for the repairs yourself...rest assured...Pulte will not fix out of warrenty homes, according to my experience with them, and AZ is not an 'implied warrenty' state..
ninuchy2, two question for you. !. Do you think that if Pulte stood behind their homes there would be a lawsuit? 2. You think those that have problems should just live with it or pay for the repairs themselves, so that someone else can sell their home a little faster?
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Oh, I see. We should not seek regress because the word will get out about our poorly built homes...so ppl with major issues, who won't be able to sell their homes anyway due to the home inspection process, should do what? Pay out of their own pockets?
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Not only is Pulte going to make it harder to sell your home, but everyone involved in the lawsuit is going to make it harder to sell your home because of the news media coverage we have already had. Who wants to buy into a community like Sun City Grand if we broadcast how poorly built our homes are. Yes I received the letter, but I did not feel threatened by it, and I am not part of the law suit. I find it laughable. They stand behind their homes, they won't live in them but they stand behind them. Pulte was disgraced a few years ago on DATELINE about their shoddy homes that they build. Del Webb is the one that sold us out to a unreliable builder. Del Webb built some houses that need to be part of that lawsuit but because they are over 9 years old the law firm will not touch them.
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BB35 wrote: Did everyone get Plute's threating letter? If you join the lawsuit Plute will make sure that you will have a hard time selling your house....
The letter was totally inappropriate since it was sent to those already involved and represented by legal counsel. If Pulte had stepped up to the plate and done the right thing, as I understand Del Webb, did, they would not have alienated as many homeowners as they have....these foundation cracks in question by homeowners are are real. The alternative to legal action is just learning to live with a house broken into two pieces, or paying for the repairs yourself...rest assured...Pulte will not fix out of warrenty homes, according to my experience with them, and AZ is not an 'implied warrenty' state..
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BB35 wrote: Did everyone get Plute's threating letter? If you join the lawsuit Plute will make sure that you will have a hard time selling your house....
The letter was totally inappropriate since it was sent to those already involved and represented by legal counsel. If Pulte had stepped up to the plate and done the right thing, as I understand Del Webb, did, they would not have alienated as many homeowners as they have....these foundation cracks in question by homeowners are are real. The alternative to legal action is just learning to live with a house broken into two pieces, or paying for the repairs yourself...rest assured...Pulte will not fix out of warrenty homes, according to my experience with them, and AZ is not an 'implied warrenty' state..
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Did everyone get Plute's threating letter? If you join the lawsuit Plute will make sure that you will have a hard time selling your house....
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dwig222 wrote: sometimes rational wrote: Could you really find happiness with an old lady like me anyway?
SR - we're suppose to be the same person. I'm one of those who the CAVE people didn't want to allow to live here and I've been vocal about it. So don't say you are old, someone might realize that we are not the same person. 
Well, I thought I was a robust, not-that-old male, but RAZ announced I am an old lady and RAZ hasn't been wrong about anything yet so I went with that. If you and I are really the same person, I just hope you're younger than RAZ implied....just let me know if you find out...my wife will want us to move to that new community if I turn out to be a she.
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sometimes rational wrote: Could you really find happiness with an old lady like me anyway?
SR - we're suppose to be the same person. I'm one of those who the CAVE people didn't want to allow to live here and I've been vocal about it. So don't say you are old, someone might realize that we are not the same person.
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sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational, I'm getting the feeling you are stalking me! Come on darling, I know you love me, but I'm a taken woman.
Well, don't flatter yourself...you need to check on the legal definition of 'stalking' as well as 'blackmail' and 'extortion"...is it your plan to accuse a different poster each day of a felony.....hmmmm..perhaps this will require some legal intervention......Could you really find happiness with an old lady like me anyway? Actually, all I want is for you to pay the charitable donation you committed to..otherwise, honbuns, I don't love you anymore. Sorry sometimes rational, I like men only. So please understand that it would never work between us. But I am flattered, not!
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 04:24 am |
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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational, I'm getting the feeling you are stalking me! Come on darling, I know you love me, but I'm a taken woman.
Well, don't flatter yourself...you need to check on the legal definition of 'stalking' as well as 'blackmail' and 'extortion"...is it your plan to accuse a different poster each day of a felony.....hmmmm..perhaps this will require some legal intervention......Could you really find happiness with an old lady like me anyway? Actually, all I want is for you to pay the charitable donation you committed to..otherwise, honbuns, I don't love you anymore.Last edited on Tue May 6th, 2008 04:30 am by
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 03:13 am |
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I know that there are several people who would like to see Harvey back on the board but there are also several people who would NOT like to see him back on the board. It would not surprise me that he would do this, because he is quite unethical.
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big guy wrote: I asked around today while I was out playing and I got mixed feelings on if people want him to be back on the board or not. This was not a scientific poll just asked the questions. I seemed quite surprised as some of the negative answers I received. Anyone have any insight. Many people couldn't understand why Martha Bales was not put on the board when he stepped down.
Wow Big Guy, you were talking to the minority. I know a LOT of people here in SCG and they love him. That was proven by the HUGE number of votes he got in the elections. Martha Bails on the other hand, got a low number of votes for Mayor and the lowest number of votes for the board. You can't argue with actual numbers.
What were you playing? Some of the groups here thought he favored other groups too much. They didn't understand he didn't make personal decisions.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 01:31 am |
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big guy wrote: I asked around today while I was out playing and I got mixed feelings on if people want him to be back on the board or not. This was not a scientific poll just asked the questions. I seemed quite surprised as some of the negative answers I received. Anyone have any insight. Many people couldn't understand why Martha Bales was not put on the board when he stepped down.
Wow Big Guy, you were talking to the minority. I know a LOT of people here in SCG and they love him. That was proven by the HUGE number of votes he got in the elections. Martha Bails on the other hand, got a low number of votes for Mayor and the lowest number of votes for the board. You can't argue with actual numbers.
What were you playing? Some of the groups here thought he favored other groups too much. They didn't understand he didn't make personal decisions.
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Posted: Tue May 6th, 2008 12:46 am |
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sometimes rational wrote: big guy wrote: This weekend I was reading my collection of papers and in one of the Independents there was a vent saying that Harvey Noteboom just stepped down from the board because that way he could run for the next election, because his terms would not be consecutive. Anyone know if this is true or not?
No idea but we can hope...he did a good job...and keep in mind he was a volunteer working about 40 hrs per week..I'd love to see him back on the bd.
I asked around today while I was out playing and I got mixed feelings on if people want him to be back on the board or not. This was not a scientific poll just asked the questions. I seemed quite surprised as some of the negative answers I received. Anyone have any insight. Many people couldn't understand why Martha Bales was not put on the board when he stepped down.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 10:41 pm |
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| sometimes rational, I'm getting the feeling you are stalking me! Come on darling, I know you love me, but I'm a taken woman.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 10:15 pm |
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cindisue_g wrote: Come on sometimes rational, you know you are fascinated, fess up sweetie!
Well I am fascinated that you're hitting on me..who knew..all that talk about ora..oh, never mind, I'm embarrassed.
Well, since YOU brought it up..I am fascinated to the extent that you could believe a person who settled a dispute with a contractor out of court is guilty of a felony..extortion, til you changed it to blackmail....and yeah, my little muffin, I am fascinated that you're welshing out of the $750 donation to charity you were claiming to make...tell ya what, hot lips...do the donation and I'll offer proof of my military service for just another $300 donation to a veteran's organization of your choosing.....guess it's not just Demmies who make false promises.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 09:31 pm |
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| Come on sometimes rational, you know you are fascinated, fess up sweetie!
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 07:08 pm |
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big guy wrote: This weekend I was reading my collection of papers and in one of the Independents there was a vent saying that Harvey Noteboom just stepped down from the board because that way he could run for the next election, because his terms would not be consecutive. Anyone know if this is true or not?
No idea but we can hope...he did a good job...and keep in mind he was a volunteer working about 40 hrs per week..I'd love to see him back on the bd.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 07:06 pm |
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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational, I know you are facinated by me, otherwise you would not keep sending me posts. But please if you want to talk about me, which I love to do as well, set up a new topic. You could name it "all about Cindisue". Otherwise, keep on the subject at hand.
Well, fascinated is a tad overthetop..but then...hey..don't wanna waste a thread on your $750 contribution to Eves Place..you copping out or going to keep your word?
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 03:14 pm |
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dwig222 wrote: big guy wrote: This weekend I was reading my collection of papers and in one of the Independents there was a vent saying that Harvey Noteboom just stepped down from the board because that way he could run for the next election, because his terms would not be consecutive. Anyone know if this is true or not?
I don't know if it is true, but that would be wonderful!!! I'm going to ask him the next time I see him. He's the best thing that ever happened to Sun City Grand.
And, Big Guy, the issue with CindiSue calling me and my husband a felon is being settled off the board. So you shouldn't be hearing anymore about it.
If you see him, please ask I would be interested in the answer if it would be allowed in our bylaws.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 03:10 pm |
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big guy wrote: This weekend I was reading my collection of papers and in one of the Independents there was a vent saying that Harvey Noteboom just stepped down from the board because that way he could run for the next election, because his terms would not be consecutive. Anyone know if this is true or not?
I don't know if it is true, but that would be wonderful!!! I'm going to ask him the next time I see him. He's the best thing that ever happened to Sun City Grand.
And, Big Guy, the issue with CindiSue calling me and my husband a felon is being settled off the board. So you shouldn't be hearing anymore about it.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 03:05 pm |
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big guy wrote: I can't figure out which one of you is more immature. Cindisue let it drop and dwig222 you can't leave it alone. And Cindisue you just have to respond. It seems to me that one is trying to egg the other one on. I am going to email the administrator on both of you, neither of you should be allowed on here. Give it a rest, you both look silly and sometimes rational why don't you just keep out of it.
Sorry Big Guy, I'll try not to respond.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 02:51 pm |
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| I can't figure out which one of you is more immature. Cindisue let it drop and dwig222 you can't leave it alone. And Cindisue you just have to respond. It seems to me that one is trying to egg the other one on. I am going to email the administrator on both of you, neither of you should be allowed on here. Give it a rest, you both look silly and sometimes rational why don't you just keep out of it. Last edited on Mon May 5th, 2008 02:52 pm by big guy
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 02:49 pm |
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| Sometimes rational, I believe the game is over for both dwig222 and myself.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 02:47 pm |
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| This weekend I was reading my collection of papers and in one of the Independents there was a vent saying that Harvey Noteboom just stepped down from the board because that way he could run for the next election, because his terms would not be consecutive. Anyone know if this is true or not?
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 02:05 pm |
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| SR - I don't think CindiSue will have much more to say about the $750. That game is over.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 01:48 pm |
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| sometimes rational, I know you are facinated by me, otherwise you would not keep sending me posts. But please if you want to talk about me, which I love to do as well, set up a new topic. You could name it "all about Cindisue". Otherwise, keep on the subject at hand.
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Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 06:06 am |
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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: dwig222 wrote: Cindi - all we have to do is "view all posts by CindiSue" and the story will be told. I'm sorry that you are a frustrated old person who still has to work to support herself. But don't take it out on me.
SR - I had to prove to her that I only use one screen name before. Maybe we can pick a time tomorrow when we can both be on the board at the same time so she will see we are not the same person. She's crazy!
Naw..she'd be convinced it was a Democrat conspiracy anyway....on the other hand, if she'd like to put up some of her Republican dollars, which we donate to Eves Place...I could go for that...money? I think I found a way to shut her up lol. On the other hand....we all know that Cindysu NEVER lies so...we can can ask the webmaster to verify we are separate ppl for a $750 donation to Eves Place from Cindy ....so what do ya say CS? hello? Cindy? yoo hoo..wonder where she went.
Why is everything Democrat versus Republicans with you - do you not have another life other than politics? You should know you can never get rid of me. I was the one that through the gauntlet down. So, Cin...you offered to put up money if it could be verified Dwig and I aren't the same....so, you always respond..cin? hello? Cindy? Anybody seen her?
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Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 02:31 pm |
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| By the way DWIG, I am my own person and am not someone else, I do not need to use two names, because thanks to a unethical board member everyone on this blog knows who I am. I choose not to respond to your antics, I just sit back and read, and print out all of your crap and spread the humor around. There are so many people who do not read or log onto this site so I give them something to laugh at on a daily basis whenever you are in your rant mood. Everyone I show this blog to, thinks that you are just plain stupid and disrespectful of this community, they find it quite funny. You are one of the reasons that people do not come on because they don't want to get into such ignorant trade of words with you.
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Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 02:25 pm |
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| You are right Big Guy, some of these people are just spoiled little brats, they are nobodies wanting desperatly to be somebody. They have to resort to calling people with other opinions that do not match their own CAVE people, and try to make people feel bad by telling others that the Board is making fun of them. Well if I were CINDISU I would be talking to the Director here and filing a complaint, because there is a code of ethics in this community, and they are not allowed to do that, in fact I would pursue it further and summon DWIG22 and Sometimes Rational into this matter too because they are in violation of the Code of Ethics that exist in this community and I would have their priviledges revoked and The Board Members could loose their positions. But then again maybe we should let them continue so that maybe someday they will say something that we could sue them for, which would really be nice, and it could happen because they are crazed, and maybe we could sue them and make them loose their houses and we would be rid of such children. God, would that be great. That would truly make Sun City Grand GRAND.
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Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 02:21 pm |
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sometimes rational wrote: dwig222 wrote: Cindi - all we have to do is "view all posts by CindiSue" and the story will be told. I'm sorry that you are a frustrated old person who still has to work to support herself. But don't take it out on me.
SR - I had to prove to her that I only use one screen name before. Maybe we can pick a time tomorrow when we can both be on the board at the same time so she will see we are not the same person. She's crazy!
Naw..she'd be convinced it was a Democrat conspiracy anyway....on the other hand, if she'd like to put up some of her Republican dollars, which we donate to Eves Place...I could go for that...money? I think I found a way to shut her up lol. On the other hand....we all know that Cindysu NEVER lies so...we can can ask the webmaster to verify we are separate ppl for a $750 donation to Eves Place from Cindy ....so what do ya say CS? hello? Cindy? yoo hoo..wonder where she went.
Why is everything Democrat versus Republicans with you - do you not have another life other than politics? You should know you can never get rid of me. I was the one that through the gauntlet down.
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Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 06:32 am |
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dwig222 wrote: Cindi - all we have to do is "view all posts by CindiSue" and the story will be told. I'm sorry that you are a frustrated old person who still has to work to support herself. But don't take it out on me.
SR - I had to prove to her that I only use one screen name before. Maybe we can pick a time tomorrow when we can both be on the board at the same time so she will see we are not the same person. She's crazy!
Naw..she'd be convinced it was a Democrat conspiracy anyway....on the other hand, if she'd like to put up some of her Republican dollars, which we donate to Eves Place...I could go for that...money? |