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cindisue_g wrote: I would put money on it that you and sometimes rational are one in the same.
p.s. could you learn to type a little better, so that you don't have that long empty space after your post, it takes up a lot of space.
Put your money where your mouth is. Oh I forgot you don't have any money.
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dwig222 wrote: Cindi - all we have to do is "view all posts by CindiSue" and the story will be told. I'm sorry that you are a frustrated old person who still has to work to support herself. But don't take it out on me.
SR - I had to prove to her that I only use one screen name before. Maybe we can pick a time tomorrow when we can both be on the board at the same time so she will see we are not the same person. She's crazy!
You didn't prove anything to me before and won't now - I would put money on it that you and sometimes rational are one in the same. I am sure you can tell that I'm doing well, because $750 is not a lot of money to me....oh sorry, I forgot it is a lot to you (you, the one that is so well off). Difference between me and you, I deal with contractors in a respectful manner, I don't threaten to sue so I will get money and I am able to sleep well at night, bet you can't. 
p.s. could you learn to type a little better, so that you don't have that long empty space after your post, it takes up a lot of space.
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Cindi - all we have to do is "view all posts by CindiSue" and the story will be told. I'm sorry that you are a frustrated old person who still has to work to support herself. But don't take it out on me.
SR - I had to prove to her that I only use one screen name before. Maybe we can pick a time tomorrow when we can both be on the board at the same time so she will see we are not the same person. She's crazy!
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dwig222 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: Cindy-cindy---you're personally attacking dwig so maybe you should put on some mittens for a while to keep you from typing...the fact is, you bashed Dwig about a year ago (May 26, 2007)for not sueing nor complaining to the state about a home job that she was not satisfied with because the subcontractor made it right--offered her a settlement--btw: the courts encourage settlements..they're called mediations--hello? anyway, it was at least a year ago...we have summer reruns...you really have a need to repost your old fights all over again?
Didn't bash her for not filing a law suit - had a problem with her extorting money from a contractor instead of reporting him to PORA, so that others would not have the same problem. But that $750 was such a huge amount of money to her, she took the money and let all her neighbors down (and that $750 is such a huge amount to someone who professes to have so much - gotta question that). I guess if you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.
Cindy--maybe you ought to actually see what the word, 'extortion' means before you accuse someone of it...hint: extortion is illegal...settling a claim via financial settlement is not.
You are correct sometimes rational, I should have used the word blackmail. blackmail ( ) n. Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information. Well, on second thought you are incorrect, extortion works as well.
So, in your world, in your solar system, if a contractor offers to settle a dispute for a cash payment, you feel he is committing blackmail, which is a felony. Cindysue--I think you spend too much time under the hairdyer..something shrunk.
Let's see - your husband almost gets into a fist fight with threats of a lawsuit (operative word threat) - you sign an agreement not to go to BBB, PORA, SCG Homeowners Association, Reg of Contractors and the list goes on (discreditable information) - that is blackmail plain and simple. Here is what Dwig222 said: "My husband was so mad he almost got into a fist fight with the owner in our driveway. We threatened to take him to court (we had pictures). We would have been happy with him giving us back $50 bucks. Instead he gave us $750!!!! For that $750 we had to sign a contract saying that we would never tell BBB, PORA, SCG Homeowners Association, Reg. of Contractors and the list goes on. How could we refuse that kind of money???"
They threatened to take him to court and did not if he paid them money - No other word for it but blackmail.
Do you all now see in writing where this poor pathetic person does not COMPREHEND things. We never said "if you don't give us money we will sue". We said "we will sue you, we have pictures". We wanted a refund of what we paid for the mailbox to be painted. That's what intelligent people do when they are not satisfied with a construction job that was paid in full. She doesn't understand. I feel so sorry for her because she can't understand things. When she gets really frustrated she comes on the board with other names and backs herself up. I'm not kidding. Look up my posts and you will see when she and I "get into it" Nunuchy and S. Stevens come out of the woodwork to defend her and put me down. Where are those people other times??? Those are her other screen names. Then she blames me for being "sometimes rational". If you look at my posts and SR's posts you will see we do not have similar styles. She accused me of being someone else on this board a few months ago and I proved to her she was wrong. SR we're going to have to prove to her that you are not dwig222. She is delusional. Let's all pray for her.
Even the board of directors at SCG make fun of her. I wish I had the time to copy and paste all the things our board said about her, but I have a life!!!
dwig222, you need to get a life. As I have said before, I use one name; just because you use more than one does not mean others do. Glad to know that the board of directors make fun of me, they don't even know me; another lie from you sr oh I mean dwig222. I know it is embarrassing for you to have to admit that you did blackmail and poor contractor that is just tyring to make a living, but that $750 was so much money for you (not to mention that you allowed a sub-par contractor to continue to do business in Sun City Grand). Tomorrow I will testify for you at church, I'm sure everyone will see the evil of your ways and pray for you.
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Posted: Sun May 4th, 2008 12:13 am |
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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: Cindy-cindy---you're personally attacking dwig so maybe you should put on some mittens for a while to keep you from typing...the fact is, you bashed Dwig about a year ago (May 26, 2007)for not sueing nor complaining to the state about a home job that she was not satisfied with because the subcontractor made it right--offered her a settlement--btw: the courts encourage settlements..they're called mediations--hello? anyway, it was at least a year ago...we have summer reruns...you really have a need to repost your old fights all over again?
Didn't bash her for not filing a law suit - had a problem with her extorting money from a contractor instead of reporting him to PORA, so that others would not have the same problem. But that $750 was such a huge amount of money to her, she took the money and let all her neighbors down (and that $750 is such a huge amount to someone who professes to have so much - gotta question that). I guess if you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.
Cindy--maybe you ought to actually see what the word, 'extortion' means before you accuse someone of it...hint: extortion is illegal...settling a claim via financial settlement is not.
You are correct sometimes rational, I should have used the word blackmail. blackmail ( ) n. Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information. Well, on second thought you are incorrect, extortion works as well.
So, in your world, in your solar system, if a contractor offers to settle a dispute for a cash payment, you feel he is committing blackmail, which is a felony. Cindysue--I think you spend too much time under the hairdyer..something shrunk.
Let's see - your husband almost gets into a fist fight with threats of a lawsuit (operative word threat) - you sign an agreement not to go to BBB, PORA, SCG Homeowners Association, Reg of Contractors and the list goes on (discreditable information) - that is blackmail plain and simple. Here is what Dwig222 said: "My husband was so mad he almost got into a fist fight with the owner in our driveway. We threatened to take him to court (we had pictures). We would have been happy with him giving us back $50 bucks. Instead he gave us $750!!!! For that $750 we had to sign a contract saying that we would never tell BBB, PORA, SCG Homeowners Association, Reg. of Contractors and the list goes on. How could we refuse that kind of money???"
They threatened to take him to court and did not if he paid them money - No other word for it but blackmail.
Do you all now see in writing where this poor pathetic person does not COMPREHEND things. We never said "if you don't give us money we will sue". We said "we will sue you, we have pictures". We wanted a refund of what we paid for the mailbox to be painted. That's what intelligent people do when they are not satisfied with a construction job that was paid in full. She doesn't understand. I feel so sorry for her because she can't understand things. When she gets really frustrated she comes on the board with other names and backs herself up. I'm not kidding. Look up my posts and you will see when she and I "get into it" Nunuchy and S. Stevens come out of the woodwork to defend her and put me down. Where are those people other times??? Those are her other screen names. Then she blames me for being "sometimes rational". If you look at my posts and SR's posts you will see we do not have similar styles. She accused me of being someone else on this board a few months ago and I proved to her she was wrong. SR we're going to have to prove to her that you are not dwig222. She is delusional. Let's all pray for her.
Even the board of directors at SCG make fun of her. I wish I had the time to copy and paste all the things our board said about her, but I have a life!!!
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sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: Cindy-cindy---you're personally attacking dwig so maybe you should put on some mittens for a while to keep you from typing...the fact is, you bashed Dwig about a year ago (May 26, 2007)for not sueing nor complaining to the state about a home job that she was not satisfied with because the subcontractor made it right--offered her a settlement--btw: the courts encourage settlements..they're called mediations--hello? anyway, it was at least a year ago...we have summer reruns...you really have a need to repost your old fights all over again?
Didn't bash her for not filing a law suit - had a problem with her extorting money from a contractor instead of reporting him to PORA, so that others would not have the same problem. But that $750 was such a huge amount of money to her, she took the money and let all her neighbors down (and that $750 is such a huge amount to someone who professes to have so much - gotta question that). I guess if you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.
Cindy--maybe you ought to actually see what the word, 'extortion' means before you accuse someone of it...hint: extortion is illegal...settling a claim via financial settlement is not.
You are correct sometimes rational, I should have used the word blackmail. blackmail ( ) n. Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information. Well, on second thought you are incorrect, extortion works as well.
So, in your world, in your solar system, if a contractor offers to settle a dispute for a cash payment, you feel he is committing blackmail, which is a felony. Cindysue--I think you spend too much time under the hairdyer..something shrunk.
Let's see - your husband almost gets into a fist fight with threats of a lawsuit (operative word threat) - you sign an agreement not to go to BBB, PORA, SCG Homeowners Association, Reg of Contractors and the list goes on (discreditable information) - that is blackmail plain and simple. Here is what Dwig222 said: "My husband was so mad he almost got into a fist fight with the owner in our driveway. We threatened to take him to court (we had pictures). We would have been happy with him giving us back $50 bucks. Instead he gave us $750!!!! For that $750 we had to sign a contract saying that we would never tell BBB, PORA, SCG Homeowners Association, Reg. of Contractors and the list goes on. How could we refuse that kind of money???"
They threatened to take him to court and did not if he paid them money - No other word for it but blackmail.
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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: Cindy-cindy---you're personally attacking dwig so maybe you should put on some mittens for a while to keep you from typing...the fact is, you bashed Dwig about a year ago (May 26, 2007)for not sueing nor complaining to the state about a home job that she was not satisfied with because the subcontractor made it right--offered her a settlement--btw: the courts encourage settlements..they're called mediations--hello? anyway, it was at least a year ago...we have summer reruns...you really have a need to repost your old fights all over again?
Didn't bash her for not filing a law suit - had a problem with her extorting money from a contractor instead of reporting him to PORA, so that others would not have the same problem. But that $750 was such a huge amount of money to her, she took the money and let all her neighbors down (and that $750 is such a huge amount to someone who professes to have so much - gotta question that). I guess if you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.
Cindy--maybe you ought to actually see what the word, 'extortion' means before you accuse someone of it...hint: extortion is illegal...settling a claim via financial settlement is not.
You are correct sometimes rational, I should have used the word blackmail. blackmail ( ) n. Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information. Well, on second thought you are incorrect, extortion works as well.
So, in your world, in your solar system, if a contractor offers to settle a dispute for a cash payment, you feel he is committing blackmail, which is a felony. Cindysue--I think you spend too much time under the hairdyer..something shrunk.
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sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: Cindy-cindy---you're personally attacking dwig so maybe you should put on some mittens for a while to keep you from typing...the fact is, you bashed Dwig about a year ago (May 26, 2007)for not sueing nor complaining to the state about a home job that she was not satisfied with because the subcontractor made it right--offered her a settlement--btw: the courts encourage settlements..they're called mediations--hello? anyway, it was at least a year ago...we have summer reruns...you really have a need to repost your old fights all over again?
Didn't bash her for not filing a law suit - had a problem with her extorting money from a contractor instead of reporting him to PORA, so that others would not have the same problem. But that $750 was such a huge amount of money to her, she took the money and let all her neighbors down (and that $750 is such a huge amount to someone who professes to have so much - gotta question that). I guess if you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.
Cindy--maybe you ought to actually see what the word, 'extortion' means before you accuse someone of it...hint: extortion is illegal...settling a claim via financial settlement is not.
You are correct sometimes rational, I should have used the word blackmail. blackmail ( ) n. Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information. Well, on second thought you are incorrect, extortion works as well.
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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: Cindy-cindy---you're personally attacking dwig so maybe you should put on some mittens for a while to keep you from typing...the fact is, you bashed Dwig about a year ago (May 26, 2007)for not sueing nor complaining to the state about a home job that she was not satisfied with because the subcontractor made it right--offered her a settlement--btw: the courts encourage settlements..they're called mediations--hello? anyway, it was at least a year ago...we have summer reruns...you really have a need to repost your old fights all over again?
Didn't bash her for not filing a law suit - had a problem with her extorting money from a contractor instead of reporting him to PORA, so that others would not have the same problem. But that $750 was such a huge amount of money to her, she took the money and let all her neighbors down (and that $750 is such a huge amount to someone who professes to have so much - gotta question that). I guess if you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.
Cindy--maybe you ought to actually see what the word, 'extortion' means before you accuse someone of it...hint: extortion is illegal...settling a claim via financial settlement is not.
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| Good for you. It makes great entertainment doesn't it. I am really glad that you don't take them seriously. I know they take themselves very seriously. They are pathetic.
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| ninuchy2, thank you for your comments. You know I don't take anything on here seriously - it is just a lot of fun.
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Hey Cindisu. Me thinks she is waiting for me to respond to her rudeness. and lack of intelligence. But as I stated before I have better things to do with my time than to respond to such an idiot. I have a life that is full, and happy. I will not let her bring me down to her and her evil friends on this blog. She and her friends just keep pulling you in so that any new people who read this think that you are the idiot and not them. It is a waste of your words to these people because they are clones of the board and of each other. They think that any who thinks for themselves and have different opinions are either unhappy or CAVE people. They are ignorant of life. They are hateful, disrepectful and are useless nobodies. I am not coming to your aid you do fine in defending yourself, I just wanted to say you should not be wasting your energies on these nobodies.
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dwig222 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: If you want to go back and cut and past, it is your time do whatever you would like.
No that's not necessary. There will be plenty more posters in the next few days pointing out your lack of comprehension. I'll just sit back and read.
Just keep posting under all your other names, it gets pretty funny
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cindisue_g wrote: If you want to go back and cut and past, it is your time do whatever you would like.
No that's not necessary. There will be plenty more posters in the next few days pointing out your lack of comprehension. I'll just sit back and read.
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dwig222 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: dwig222 wrote: Cindi Sue - do you fight with all your neighbors and friends off the board, like you do with so many people on this board?????
That's sad.
I could ask this question of you - do you disrespect your neighbors like you do all those that do not agree with you on this site? And thank you for asking, but I get a long very well with my neighbors and friends - I just have a problem with people like you that write something and then say they did not and that say things out of both sides of their mouth.
Funny that is not
You are the only person I fight with on this board because you cannot comprehend simple things. Do you want me to go back and cut and paste the posts of ALL the fights you had on this board with numerous people on numerous subjects. I'm waiting for all your other screen names to appear to defend you and call me an idiot. I'm surprised they haven't shown up yet.
Funny I see you being disrespectful to others as well. Secondly, don't have any other screen names, you must because you always bring it up - based on your theory, sometimes rational must be your other name, because she defended you - think that might be true. Guess we agree on one thing, we don't think the other can comprehend simple things. If you want to go back and cut and past, it is your time do whatever you would like.
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cindisue_g wrote: dwig222 wrote: Cindi Sue - do you fight with all your neighbors and friends off the board, like you do with so many people on this board?????
That's sad.
I could ask this question of you - do you disrespect your neighbors like you do all those that do not agree with you on this site? And thank you for asking, but I get a long very well with my neighbors and friends - I just have a problem with people like you that write something and then say they did not and that say things out of both sides of their mouth.
You are the only person I fight with on this board because you cannot comprehend simple things. Do you want me to go back and cut and paste the posts of ALL the fights you had on this board with numerous people on numerous subjects. I'm waiting for all your other screen names to appear to defend you and call me an idiot. I'm surprised they haven't shown up yet.
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sometimes rational wrote: Cindy-cindy---you're personally attacking dwig so maybe you should put on some mittens for a while to keep you from typing...the fact is, you bashed Dwig about a year ago (May 26, 2007)for not sueing nor complaining to the state about a home job that she was not satisfied with because the subcontractor made it right--offered her a settlement--btw: the courts encourage settlements..they're called mediations--hello? anyway, it was at least a year ago...we have summer reruns...you really have a need to repost your old fights all over again?
Didn't bash her for not filing a law suit - had a problem with her extorting money from a contractor instead of reporting him to PORA, so that others would not have the same problem. But that $750 was such a huge amount of money to her, she took the money and let all her neighbors down (and that $750 is such a huge amount to someone who professes to have so much - gotta question that). I guess if you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.
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dwig222 wrote: Cindi Sue - do you fight with all your neighbors and friends off the board, like you do with so many people on this board?????
That's sad.
I could ask this question of you - do you disrespect your neighbors like you do all those that do not agree with you on this site? And thank you for asking, but I get a long very well with my neighbors and friends - I just have a problem with people like you that write something and then say they did not and that say things out of both sides of their mouth.
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Interesting... I lived in southern AZ in 1997 and visited friends often in Phoenix. I starting watching the SCG being built. I was very impressed by the quality of Del Webb construction. As we were planning to retire in the near future we put money down on a location in June... We were able to use the 9 month clause to "wait" until the Blue Sky area came open to start construction.
I watched my house being built and I often visited the site with a large level and took pictures of the frame and locations of the internals. I was very pleased at the quality.
I even placed a one ounce pure silver coin before the concrete was poured at all of the outside doors. (Helps insure good luck and good health)
If you look down at a SCG map, the construction started at the junction of the 303 and Grand ave. Now go counter clockwise on the map until you reach Sunrise ave. That is the boundary were the original Del Webb construction crews stopped building (about 1999).
This is what I was told by a Del Webb construction super at the time.
From that point, Anthem started and the original construction crews were moved there. Then the remaining houses were built by sub contractors until Pulte came on the scene. (a Dark Day it Was for the Grand)
I watched the east of Sunrise houses being built. What I saw was a change in the quality of construction for the worse. I had a friend that picked up nails scattered around the construction areas (Del Webb liked it as we helped clean up the site).
My friend remarked how poorly built some homes were.
When Pulte started on Phase four I watched the construction and wondered where Plute got the crap lumber they were using. Plute construction couldn't compare to original Del Webb work.
Just my opinion on what I have been told and observed.
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Cindi Sue - do you fight with all your neighbors and friends off the board, like you do with so many people on this board?????
That's sad.
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sometimes rational wrote: Cindy-cindy---you're personally attacking dwig so maybe you should put on some mittens for a while to keep you from typing...the fact is, you bashed Dwig about a year ago (May 26, 2007)for not sueing nor complaining to the state about a home job that she was not satisfied with because the subcontractor made it right--offered her a settlement--btw: the courts encourage settlements..they're called mediations--hello? anyway, it was at least a year ago...we have summer reruns...you really have a need to repost your old fights all over again?
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Cindy-cindy---you're personally attacking dwig so maybe you should put on some mittens for a while to keep you from typing...the fact is, you bashed Dwig about a year ago (May 26, 2007)for not sueing nor complaining to the state about a home job that she was not satisfied with because the subcontractor made it right--offered her a settlement--btw: the courts encourage settlements..they're called mediations--hello? anyway, it was at least a year ago...we have summer reruns...you really have a need to repost your old fights all over again?
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dwig222 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: dwig222 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: I guess that means houses built by Del Webb are also included in the lawsuit.
All of the houses in Sun City Grand were built by Del Webb.
Let me quote you dwig222: No you are wrong. Del Webb was Del Webb when we built. When Pulte took over they were still "Del Webb" owned at that time by Pulte. Our home was built by Del Webb before it became affiliated with Pulte. The homes that were built by the original Del Webb don't have "numerous" problems like the ones that were built by Del Webb (owned then by Pulte). Pulte kept the name "Del Webb" when they originally purchased it because Del Webb was a premier builder in AZ and was at the top of the list of good builders. When Pulte took over they went downhill fast.
Pulte, under the name of Del Webb, built the houses from mid 2001 through today and don't want to burst your bubble, but homes built by as you call it 'the original Del Webb" are involved since homes involved were built from 2000 and 2006".
Exactly - that means that Del Webb built all the homes in SCG. The old Del Webb and the new Del Webb but all were built under the name Del Webb. And try reading my posts, I NEVER said every single home built by the old Del Webb was defect free!
Do you comprehend this yet?
Do you ever read what you write? You said: You need to comprehend this better. It's not "locgic" it's fact. When Pulite purchased Del Webb, the homes like mine were already built and free of defects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am aware of the the bogus lawsuits that the attorneys are benefiting from at the expense of the homeowners, by the way. That is the Del Webb that Pulite owns ------NOT THE DEL WEBB THAT BUILT OUR HOME OR THE HOMES OF MANY OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE do not have defects. If you have been here 7 years, your house must have been built in 2001, yep same years as some of those included in the lawsuit, since they range from 2000 to 2006.
You seem to talk out of both sides of your mouth dwig222. On one side you call a legal lawsuit bogus where people only want the builder to fix construction defects, but on the other side it was okay for you to extort $750 from a contractor who you did not feel their work was up to your standards, as you said "Instead he gave us $750!!!! How could we refuse that kind of money???" .
Do you comprehend this yet?
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cindisue_g wrote: dwig222 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: I guess that means houses built by Del Webb are also included in the lawsuit.
All of the houses in Sun City Grand were built by Del Webb.
Let me quote you dwig222: No you are wrong. Del Webb was Del Webb when we built. When Pulte took over they were still "Del Webb" owned at that time by Pulte. Our home was built by Del Webb before it became affiliated with Pulte. The homes that were built by the original Del Webb don't have "numerous" problems like the ones that were built by Del Webb (owned then by Pulte). Pulte kept the name "Del Webb" when they originally purchased it because Del Webb was a premier builder in AZ and was at the top of the list of good builders. When Pulte took over they went downhill fast.
Pulte, under the name of Del Webb, built the houses from mid 2001 through today and don't want to burst your bubble, but homes built by as you call it 'the original Del Webb" are involved since homes involved were built from 2000 and 2006".
Exactly - that means that Del Webb built all the homes in SCG. The old Del Webb and the new Del Webb but all were built under the name Del Webb. And try reading my posts, I NEVER said every single home built by the old Del Webb was defect free!
Do you comprehend this yet?
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dwig222 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: I guess that means houses built by Del Webb are also included in the lawsuit.
All of the houses in Sun City Grand were built by Del Webb.
Let me quote you dwig222: No you are wrong. Del Webb was Del Webb when we built. When Pulte took over they were still "Del Webb" owned at that time by Pulte. Our home was built by Del Webb before it became affiliated with Pulte. The homes that were built by the original Del Webb don't have "numerous" problems like the ones that were built by Del Webb (owned then by Pulte). Pulte kept the name "Del Webb" when they originally purchased it because Del Webb was a premier builder in AZ and was at the top of the list of good builders. When Pulte took over they went downhill fast.
Pulte, under the name of Del Webb, built the houses from mid 2001 through today and don't want to burst your bubble, but homes built by as you call it 'the original Del Webb" are involved since homes involved were built from 2000 and 2006".
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cindisue_g wrote: I guess that means houses built by Del Webb are also included in the lawsuit.
All of the houses in Sun City Grand were built by Del Webb.
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| According to the press release, clients involved in the lawsuit live in houses built between 2000 and 2006 and since the merge between Del Webb and Pulte happened in 2001, I guess that means houses built by Del Webb are also included in the lawsuit.
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deuce wrote: dwig222 wrote: deuce wrote: dwig222 wrote: Not all of the homes in Sun City Grand were built by Pulte. Mine wasn't and we were in it to check what was done each day (hubby was a general contractor) as they were building it. Having built a home 5 years earlier in Glendale that was a disaster, we were extremely impressed with the quality of our SCG builder - Del Webb. Many of our neighbors in our cul-de-sac were living here in AZ and checked on the construction daily. We've been here almost seven years and have never had a single problem!!!
That's great. I'm happy for you. But, if you had read the content of the link carefully, you would have noticed it includes homes built by Del Webb.
No you are wrong. Del Webb was Del Webb when we built. When Pulte took over they were still "Del Webb" owned at that time by Pulte. Our home was built by Del Webb before it became affiliated with Pulte. The homes that were built by the original Del Webb don't have "numerous" problems like the ones that were built by Del Webb (owned then by Pulte). Pulte kept the name "Del Webb" when they originally purchased it because Del Webb was a premier builder in AZ and was at the top of the list of good builders. When Pulte took over they went downhill fast.
Boy, your logic is faulty. Try this, when Pulte purchased Del Webb, they assumed all liability for homes built by Del Webb. You're obviously not aware of the lawsuit against Pulte for SCG homes with "defects.
You need to comprehend this better. It's not "locgic" it's fact. When Pulite purchased Del Webb, the homes like mine were already built and free of defects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am aware of the the bogus lawsuits that the attorneys are benefiting from at the expense of the homeowners, by the way. That is the Del Webb that Pulite owns ------NOT THE DEL WEBB THAT BUILT OUR HOME OR THE HOMES OF MANY OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE do not have defects.
They may have assumed liability................but there were very few homeowners with defects. Can you understand this???
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dwig222 wrote: deuce wrote: dwig222 wrote: Not all of the homes in Sun City Grand were built by Pulte. Mine wasn't and we were in it to check what was done each day (hubby was a general contractor) as they were building it. Having built a home 5 years earlier in Glendale that was a disaster, we were extremely impressed with the quality of our SCG builder - Del Webb. Many of our neighbors in our cul-de-sac were living here in AZ and checked on the construction daily. We've been here almost seven years and have never had a single problem!!!
That's great. I'm happy for you. But, if you had read the content of the link carefully, you would have noticed it includes homes built by Del Webb.
No you are wrong. Del Webb was Del Webb when we built. When Pulte took over they were still "Del Webb" owned at that time by Pulte. Our home was built by Del Webb before it became affiliated with Pulte. The homes that were built by the original Del Webb don't have "numerous" problems like the ones that were built by Del Webb (owned then by Pulte). Pulte kept the name "Del Webb" when they originally purchased it because Del Webb was a premier builder in AZ and was at the top of the list of good builders. When Pulte took over they went downhill fast.
Boy, your logic is faulty. Try this, when Pulte purchased Del Webb, they assumed all liability for homes built by Del Webb. You're obviously not aware of the lawsuit against Pulte for SCG homes with "defects.
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deuce wrote: dwig222 wrote: Not all of the homes in Sun City Grand were built by Pulte. Mine wasn't and we were in it to check what was done each day (hubby was a general contractor) as they were building it. Having built a home 5 years earlier in Glendale that was a disaster, we were extremely impressed with the quality of our SCG builder - Del Webb. Many of our neighbors in our cul-de-sac were living here in AZ and checked on the construction daily. We've been here almost seven years and have never had a single problem!!!
That's great. I'm happy for you. But, if you had read the content of the link carefully, you would have noticed it includes homes built by Del Webb.
No you are wrong. Del Webb was Del Webb when we built. When Pulte took over they were still "Del Webb" owned at that time by Pulte. Our home was built by Del Webb before it became affiliated with Pulte. The homes that were built by the original Del Webb don't have "numerous" problems like the ones that were built by Del Webb (owned then by Pulte). Pulte kept the name "Del Webb" when they originally purchased it because Del Webb was a premier builder in AZ and was at the top of the list of good builders. When Pulte took over they went downhill fast.
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dwig222 wrote: Not all of the homes in Sun City Grand were built by Pulte. Mine wasn't and we were in it to check what was done each day (hubby was a general contractor) as they were building it. Having built a home 5 years earlier in Glendale that was a disaster, we were extremely impressed with the quality of our SCG builder - Del Webb. Many of our neighbors in our cul-de-sac were living here in AZ and checked on the construction daily. We've been here almost seven years and have never had a single problem!!!
That's great. I'm happy for you. But, if you had read the content of the link carefully, you would have noticed it includes homes built by Del Webb.
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| Not all of the homes in Sun City Grand were built by Pulte. Mine wasn't and we were in it to check what was done each day (hubby was a general contractor) as they were building it. Having built a home 5 years earlier in Glendale that was a disaster, we were extremely impressed with the quality of our SCG builder - Del Webb. Many of our neighbors in our cul-de-sac were living here in AZ and checked on the construction daily. We've been here almost seven years and have never had a single problem!!!
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http://poorlybuiltbypulte.info/report.asp
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| Well big guy - you just don't get it!! - Never been happier and very content with life in SCG and Surprise. Bails comming in last just made me that much happier!
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| kennyw by the tone of your post, you seem like a very unhappy, miserable person. Maybe you need to chill and get a life.
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If there is any doubt that the malcontents and nay sayers dominate this topic the Board election in SCG has given more proof. The few who have blasted the Board have been proven wrong. It speaks well for SCG there is a happy community and pleased with the efforts of the Board.
Bails has been recognized for what she is - a unhappy - malcontent who has nothing to offer but her brand of negative thoughts. - Came in dead last!! - Perhaps she now gets the message - "chill out and begin to enoy life."
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A big congratulations to John Such, Rosemary Murphy, Jan Kroesen and Bill Sullivan for successfully retaining their seats on the board. I'm glad the residents of Sun City Grand recognize your great service to our community and want to see you continue to make the right decisions with our budget.
Cindisue - I'm sorry your "drunken sailors" won. I guess we don't all agree with you. Maybe you and Martha can have coffee with ninuchy2.
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sometimes rational wrote: Zona wrote: Speaking of transportation, I will be moving out to SCG full time later this year and my first purchase will be a golf cart. Having never bought a cart before, can anyone offer some advice on area dealers, which manufacturers are better, whether you haggle with a dealer over the price, late model used vs. new, etc. Appreciate any assistance.
I have a gas operated Yamaha..costs me $60-80 for maint. which is once per year oil and filter change and inspection. I get about 6 weeks on 4 gallons of gas. As Milo said, you can't use a gas on a golf course here but gas carts are much much faster than electric...battery to start the cart only lasts about a year and a half....Yamaha and Club are the brands to look for for gas...I'm told the cute egg shaped GEM electric carts are not reliable. A quickie here -- a family friend stated that the GEM vehicles performance and reliability improved dramatically once the line was purchased by Chrysler. They did testing at the Chrysler proving grounds in Wittmann.
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That one case of batteries blowing up is true. Although, that particular battery system is different than the normal Yamaha/Club Car/EasyGo etc. system. Desert Golf Car said their stores have never had an incident like this occur with the 48 volt (6x8 volt) batteries.
As stated previously, we have a Yamaha electric. We live here year round and do not find care of the batteries a problem. Yamaha recommends you keep the charger connected to the batteries when you are not using. It can not overcharge. I check the water in the batteries once a month and that works just fine. So easy even I can do it.
But your decision will have to be made on whether you will use it on the golf course or not. If you want to go 35 mph in a golf cart that is up to you, I personally think it's too fast.
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Don't forget to mention that electric golf cars have a habit of exploding in the summer heat. One blew up in a garage and the house burned down in 20 minutes. The owners just barely got out alive... This was in SCG.
Lead acid batteries pollute much more than gas carts and are much more dangerous. Maintaining the batteries in the summer heat is a major pain and dangerous.
Why do you think battery electric autos were yanked off the market???
The best deal around. Desert rebuilt gas golf cars about 5K bucks...
Be sure to get the fast gears (35mph).
Oh yeah, I have a gas Yamaha. Great for going to the store and medical appointments.
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| Thank you all for the suggestions on golf carts. We are really looking forward to life in Sun City Grand as well as exploring the surrounding area.
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All of Sun City's golf courses allow gas operated golf cars. You can use them on any streets with a posted speed limit less than 35 MPH in Sun City. Not sure what the rules are in SCW, SCG or Surprise.
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Zona wrote: Speaking of transportation, I will be moving out to SCG full time later this year and my first purchase will be a golf cart. Having never bought a cart before, can anyone offer some advice on area dealers, which manufacturers are better, whether you haggle with a dealer over the price, late model used vs. new, etc. Appreciate any assistance.
I have a gas operated Yamaha..costs me $60-80 for maint. which is once per year oil and filter change and inspection. I get about 6 weeks on 4 gallons of gas. As Milo s |