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Posted: Sun Nov 4th, 2007 09:58 pm |
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. . . what is it about N. Sterling Drive that thieves find so inviting?
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Posted: Sun Nov 4th, 2007 09:53 pm |
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just received this
Mountain View II Residents and Friends
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> This morning when I opened my e-mail there was a note regarding a robbery
> last night, Saturday (11/3) on N. Sterling Drive.
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> I just finished (Sunday 11/4) talking to the homeowner that was robbed so
> this is not hearsay.
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> The owner left the house Saturday around 5:10 p.m. and returned back home
> approximately 6:45p.m. The front door had been pried open, and items from
> the house were stolen. This was done in less then 2 hours. I am not
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> into more specifics at this time. The important point is that this did
> happen and for people to stay alert and if they see anyone acting
> suspicious in their neighborhoods call the police.
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> Last week there were two other robberies reported on Sterling Drive that I
> was told about. I did not send out an e-mail as I was trying to go
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> the "proper" channels to verify this. I requested verification that a
> robbery was reported on Saturday 10/27 and another robbery on Monday 10/29
> and that both robberies were on N. Sterling Drive. I have not had a
> response from the Police Dept. but I am telling you now that these other
> two robberies did happen.
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> This is not meant to make you afraid or nervous but to emphasize that we
> need to stay alert. If you see someone on your street that does not look
> like they belong there call the police. If you see strange cars make a
> note of color and model. Watch your neighbors house if they are away.
> This is a safe place to live but we can make it even safer if we help each
> other. It is better to call the police on something that turns out to be
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> false alarm then to sit back and do nothing and have one of our friends
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> robbed.
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Posted: Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 12:07 am |
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. . . sounds like they're acting as a go btwn. That's nice to hear.
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 09:37 pm |
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| goldrush, my neighbor has been in contact with Pulte, they have a department that just deals with termites and they are coming out this week to see what needs to be done.
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 08:42 pm |
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Nancy wrote: Termites - has any one had a bad problem with termites. I'm in Phase 4 and I have not seen any signs, but a few of my neighbors have them; some even have them really bad.
If you are not looking for them, you might want to start. If it is within the warranty period, Pulte will come out and spray again.
. . . think you'll find that the company who handled the application and issued the warranty would be the folks to contact if you have a problem - NOT PULTE.
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 05:15 pm |
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better idea........semi tight jeans with pockets or a vest with velcro pockets and carry a drivers license and one credit card........an old midwest xmas shopping trick
I've been using the jeans trick since the purse snatchings started a couple of months ago
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 04:07 pm |
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Women should not carry large purses. A large purse broadcasts the message "MUG ME". My wife carries a small clutch purse with cards and driver license that she can put in a pocket when shopping... All other stuff is kept in the car....
I am amazed how women leave a large purse in the shopping cart wide open when their backs are turned looking for stuff.... It looks to me that most are Midwesterners..
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 02:51 pm |
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Termites - has any one had a bad problem with termites. I'm in Phase 4 and I have not seen any signs, but a few of my neighbors have them; some even have them really bad.
If you are not looking for them, you might want to start. If it is within the warranty period, Pulte will come out and spray again.
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 02:45 pm |
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Thank you so much for alerting us of this issue. This just goes to show why we should also be more careful in our own community by locking our doors and keeping our garage doors down. We have already had an invasion and other crimes, and it seems that more and more crime is coming to our area and we do not I repeat do not have the police manpower to take care of this city. The mayor is always playing catch up with new hires. When she tells you they hired 3 or 4 new policeman ask her are these really new hires or just replacements of officers who are retireing, or leaving for another position. The mayor will do whatever is necessary for the Fire Department and the reason for that which she is quick to tell her is because she lost her husband who was a fireman. Why should she not do the same for the police, they risk their lives on daily basis also. We are understaffed in this community and the city governments continue to allow more building without the proper infrastructure in place. Thanks again for the notice.azsu wrote: just received this
wondered why there was a Surprise patrol car in Kohls parking lot
Dear Friends,
Last evening my neighbor and friend was at Lowes and had her purse stolen from her car while she was loading her purchases in her trunk. The thieves were 3 white women probably in their 20's. One was blond, one dark haired and the third looked older, but another witness thought she was also in her 20's but looked like she was on drugs. Two women were in a car and the third makes the snatch and jumps in the car and they take off.
Please everyone be vigilant of your surroundings and never leave your purse unattended even for a moment. These women are fast.
The police think they have a line on these women. Lets hope they get them.
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 01:11 am |
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just received this
wondered why there was a Surprise patrol car in Kohls parking lot
Dear Friends,
Last evening my neighbor and friend was at Lowes and had her purse stolen from her car while she was loading her purchases in her trunk. The thieves were 3 white women probably in their 20's. One was blond, one dark haired and the third looked older, but another witness thought she was also in her 20's but looked like she was on drugs. Two women were in a car and the third makes the snatch and jumps in the car and they take off.
Please everyone be vigilant of your surroundings and never leave your purse unattended even for a moment. These women are fast.
The police think they have a line on these women. Lets hope they get them.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 08:40 pm |
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ninuchy wrote: goldrush wrote: Is SCG HOA affected by the water rate hike? CAM doesn't know!
You should be able to get your answer from Harvey Noteboom if he will answer you. He has made an issue of this in the past. He thinks he has all the answers, so lets see if he does.
. . . spoke with the City Manager. SCG is not affected.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 05:03 pm |
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| Cindisue I forgot to respond about the committee thing you said. It is very true about not being able to get on committees. I am living proof. I wish to serve on a committee and there is a certain board member that will not let me serve. If I were to get on this committee things would be made very difficult for the person in charge. This isn't fair. There is also another person that wants to be on this committee and he also can't be, because of the same board member. The power that he thinks he has, has gone to his head, and he rules like it. What ever he wants he gets at the expense of the homeowners. This other person and myself served the committee very well for over 4 years, and alot of the people on that committee were trained by me. I would actually be an asset. But because I am a thorn in one of the Board members side, I am being tossed aside for his personal vendetta.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:58 pm |
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cindisue_g wrote: ninucy, when you post, please either copy the post your are responding to or address it to that person. Sometimes you are a little hard to following.
I do agree with you on one thing, many, many people are shocked how some of the money is being spent (i.e., woodshop and possible pickleball pavilion) and that there seems to be a "social club" running SCG and if you are not a part of it, they make it very difficult for you to participate in committees, etc.
Isn't it amazing at how the minority is always getting their entertainment paid for by everyone who lives in Grand. I wish that they would pay for my movie going experience. I feel that if everyone who wants to play pickle ball should pay for that entertainment, likewise woodshop, ceramics. You pay for the things you need with your dues, not my back pocket. Then when you get new members there is a membership fee you pay. The majority of us are paying for the minority. That to me is not being fiscally responsible with are CARE Funds or our annual assessments. Hows this for an idea. Anyone who participates in a function or club in Grand should have a higher assessment than the people who do not belong to anything. The people who do not wish to use or join any club or activity should not have to pay for other peoples entertainment. We all know that won't fly.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:49 pm |
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goldrush wrote: Is SCG HOA affected by the water rate hike? CAM doesn't know!
You should be able to get your answer from Harvey Noteboom if he will answer you. He has made an issue of this in the past. He thinks he has all the answers, so lets see if he does.
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dwig222 wrote: goldrush wrote: DUSD and City Council recall campaigns are getting started. Seems to be the thing to do when you're unhappy with the governance. Should SCG mount a recall campaign?
There is no need for a recall. We have a wonderful homeowners association that is very much in the black. We are the envy of other homeowner associations. We also have a handfull (out of 10,000) of people who want everything done their way. They don't understand the concept of "majority rules". Why do you think Harvey Noteboom gets re-elected if we are unhappy?
The wood shop was too small; it needed to be bigger. Pickleball is very, very popular here in SCG and it will be great to have a pavillion.
If someone started a recall, the signatures would fit on a post-it note.
There definitely is a need for a recall. You are just brainwashed if you think that everyone is happy with this association. You are in someones back pocket. It is simply not true that things are all rosey here. You believe what you want to hear because you probably don't get out and contribute time to this community. If you did you would hear how many people are disgruntled. Someday you are going to be in for an eye opening experience when you find out how many signatures we can get on a POST IT NOTE. You are blind to reality. I just hope that you don't have to learn the hard way and take the rest of us down with you.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:42 pm |
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Magpie wrote: Folks, it's not a pickle ball pavilion. It's a pavilion for all Sun City Grand residents and will be called the Cimarron Pavillion. Pickle ball will not have a priority over any other group of residents wishing to use the Cimarron Pavilion.
It seems that you think you know all the answers. That is what you are saying that it is not a pickle ball pavillion. It will end up a pickle ball pavillion. I heard a birdie last week say that the cost is going to be $150,00.00. What inside track do you have that this figure is not true. This is way too much money for our board to even think about spending at this time since the real estate market is so slow. This is not fiscally responsible, it is irresponsible. Only a minority of people are pickle ballers and we the majority should not have to pay for something we do not use. If you want a pavillion then you pay for it and all it takes to take care of it. Maintenance, insurance, and supplies. I resent the fact that the minority is constantly in my back pocket for their entertainment. Pay for your own entertainment.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:05 pm |
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| Yes Cindisue I agree with the social club thing. When I respond to things I click on the person to reply. I don't know why it is not letting you know which person I am responding to. It used to go to their box. But from now on I will make sure I use their names. Thank you for the advice.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 01:53 pm |
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ninucy, when you post, please either copy the post your are responding to or address it to that person. Sometimes you are a little hard to following.
I do agree with you on one thing, many, many people are shocked how some of the money is being spent (i.e., woodshop and possible pickleball pavilion) and that there seems to be a "social club" running SCG and if you are not a part of it, they make it very difficult for you to participate in committees, etc.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 05:54 am |
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| The last four posts make it appear the the person is talking to themself.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:23 am |
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| You might be surprised at how many signatures we could get on a post it note. Someday you will be in for an eye opening experience.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:19 am |
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| That's what you say. How do we know what the truth is, we are always being told one thing and it ends up being something else. It will be used for the pickle ballers and probably nothing else. It is too expensive at this point in time regardless because real estate is not moving and we don't need to be spending funds on a Pavillion that we don't need at this time. It is absolutely FOOLISH and FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:16 am |
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| You must be a pickle baller. I would like to know why you think that we the majority should have to supply you with a place to store things and to have events when the majority of us do not play pickle ball. Why is it that the minority is always benefiting at the expense of the majority. Could it be that you have an in with the Board. I think so.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:13 am |
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| We are not a disgruntled minority, you are part of the brainwashed.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:11 am |
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| Well you sure do show your true colors don't you. You must have an inside track to the board members and get everything that you want heard. We do need a recall. You are brainwashed if you believe that everyone is happy here with this board. We are not and some of us are not afraid to let it be known and we are not afraid to stand up to the board and tell them exactly what we think they are doing that is not in our best interest.
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Posted: Tue Oct 30th, 2007 01:38 am |
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Did I miss something in the Standards about cars having to be parked in the garage?

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Posted: Tue Oct 30th, 2007 12:03 am |
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. . . maybe parking in the street 24/7 would make it easier fo thieves to get away. Nasty, Nasty Nasty!
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Posted: Mon Oct 29th, 2007 09:13 pm |
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| It may be time to haul the garbage out of the garages and start using them for their intended purpose (which I think is for parking your vehicle)
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Posted: Mon Oct 29th, 2007 04:31 pm |
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Snowbird who parks car in driveway instead of garage got up this a.m. to find car gone.
NO FURTHER DETAILS AVAILABLE
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Posted: Sun Oct 28th, 2007 02:33 pm |
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I was at a meeting where they said that yes all residents could use it, but to remember that the pickleballers paid $20,000 so keep that in mind - translation in my mind, it is pretty much their pavilion and they have first right to use it. If it does get approved after the architectural plan, I guess we will all hear if everyone can use it or if they monopolize it.
Bikerdude, they said that the Pickleball people needed more space to store things and have events.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28th, 2007 12:59 pm |
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What is the purpose of this pavilion? Is it to be reserved for functions? Is it a place anyone can sit in at any time. Will it have music to annoy the neighbors. Inquiring minds want to know what it will do, other than deplete the treasury.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28th, 2007 06:35 am |
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| Folks, it's not a pickle ball pavilion. It's a pavilion for all Sun City Grand residents and will be called the Cimarron Pavillion. Pickle ball will not have a priority over any other group of residents wishing to use the Cimarron Pavilion.
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| If CAM doesn't know, that's scary. I do not believe they are being billed any back due, which would lead me to believe that they have been paying the commercial rate. At the council meeting, they said that some were paying the commercial rate already. Last edited on Sun Oct 28th, 2007 12:15 am by cindisue_g
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Posted: Sun Oct 28th, 2007 12:09 am |
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Is SCG HOA affected by the water rate hike? CAM doesn't know!
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Posted: Sat Oct 27th, 2007 10:38 pm |
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| I guess the authority has spoken and told us, didn't she. I guess I wasn't aware that Mr. Noteboom got so many votes, maybe about 9,798 since there are only a couple of people that complain....foolish me I thought he got a lot less.
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Posted: Sat Oct 27th, 2007 08:15 pm |
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So much for the complainers/disgruntled minority. Guess they'll just have to suck it up. They never had it so good.
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Posted: Sat Oct 27th, 2007 07:28 pm |
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goldrush wrote: DUSD and City Council recall campaigns are getting started. Seems to be the thing to do when you're unhappy with the governance. Should SCG mount a recall campaign?
There is no need for a recall. We have a wonderful homeowners association that is very much in the black. We are the envy of other homeowner associations. We also have a handfull (out of 10,000) of people who want everything done their way. They don't understand the concept of "majority rules". Why do you think Harvey Noteboom gets re-elected if we are unhappy?
The wood shop was too small; it needed to be bigger. Pickleball is very, very popular here in SCG and it will be great to have a pavillion.
If someone started a recall, the signatures would fit on a post-it note.
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| As I have stated before, I don't believe in recalls.
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Posted: Sat Oct 27th, 2007 05:38 pm |
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DUSD and City Council recall campaigns are getting started. Seems to be the thing to do when you're unhappy with the governance. Should SCG mount a recall campaign?
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Posted: Sat Oct 27th, 2007 04:04 pm |
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ninchuy, a lot of my neighbors have just given up and don't get involved anymore. It seems as though money is spent on things like the pickleball pavilion and not on the upkeep of the property as you stated (one of the reasons I purchased my home here was the beautiful colors, don't see them much anymore). With the city of Surprise having a tennis/pickleball stadium, do we really need it, because they need a place to store their items (how about using their garages like the rest of us have to). $14,000 just for the architectural plan, what is the building going to cost. If there is not enough money in the CARE fund, are we going to have to pay for it out of our reserves. What is it going to cost for upkeep, utilities, etc., is the pickleballers going to be responsible for that? No.
I certainly understand wanting to enhance what ever your hobby is, but I feel we spent $170,000 on the wood shop for a very few residents and now who knows what for the pickleballers. Why are these clubs not required to fund their own projects. I understand the pickleballers did put in $20,000 (but we are also told we can use this, but remember they put in xxx amount, so I guess that means they will be the only ones using the pavilion), which is a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of the costs. I would personally like to see a building in the pet park. We need a place for not only the dogs, but us to go inside when it is hot. It would be nice to have a fridge to store items for the dogs and ourselves. And of course, based on how everything else has been happened, I'll be willing to put $100 in the coffer for it, as I am sure the rest of the people that use the park regularly and then the association can pick up the tab for the rest.
The news continues to tell us the real estate market has not hit bottom yet, there are new active adult communities opening up daily (and giving great incentives to purchase their) and we still spend like the money is rolling like there is not tomorrow. Yes, many of us have just given up. I just certainly don't want to be hit with a big assessment, because people spent foolishly and did not plan ahead.
Why are the minutes of the CARE meeting not put on the website? Is it a secret committee or something?
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| It has been awhile since I have been on but I am back in town so I got caught up on some reading and like you things are a little quiet around here. Is this unusual. Yes. I think things are happening behind closed doors. I went to a meeting just last week and things are defintely not the same. I thought that the issue over the new theater was a dead issue, but I really don't think so. This Pavillion that they are wanting to build for Pickle Ball is I agree money not spent wisely. Until sales improve we should not be thinking about adding new buildings that require maintenance, utilities, insurance etc with money that we don't really have if we can't even take care of the landscaping in this community. Our landscaping has gone to the rabbits. Plants are dying, nothing new being put in. We have huge gaps where there are no plants and have not had plants for some time. The Board is not acting in a fiscally responsible manner in these two issues. Building and replanting. Visually we are not spectacular anymore. These items need to be improved. Another issue that is very alarming is the way the Board members are so condesending to we the homeowners. There is an ethics clause in their agreement to serve and the way they talk to us the homeowners is very alarming. They are also going to meetings and trying to start up friction. By this I mean that they are going to meetings and knowing all along that the question that they ask is not at the proper forum but ask it to start trouble. To me this is unethical. They are very confrontational when people do not want to be on board with their agenda. We are entitled to our opinions but they do not think so.
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Posted: Sun Sep 30th, 2007 01:57 pm |
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goldrush wrote: SurpriseNewbie wrote: Is Sun City Grand having problems? My grandpa lives there, and he is really the reason why I moved to this area. I'd hate to think he's not in a good place. He pretty much keeps to him self, so hopefully he'll be fine
. . . no need to worry about Grandpa. He'll be fine.
Thanks!!!! I was getting a little nervous.
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Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 09:16 pm |
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SurpriseNewbie wrote: Is Sun City Grand having problems? My grandpa lives there, and he is really the reason why I moved to this area. I'd hate to think he's not in a good place. He pretty much keeps to him self, so hopefully he'll be fine
. . . no need to worry about Grandpa. He'll be fine.
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BikerDude Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 04:23 pm |
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SurpriseNewbie wrote: Is Sun City Grand having problems? My grandpa lives there, and he is really the reason why I moved to this area. I'd hate to think he's not in a good place. He pretty much keeps to him self, so hopefully he'll be fine.
No problems here. Just some alert neighbors commenting on some changes.

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Posted: Fri Sep 28th, 2007 02:21 pm |
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| Is Sun City Grand having problems? My grandpa lives there, and he is really the reason why I moved to this area. I'd hate to think he's not in a good place. He pretty much keeps to him self, so hopefully he'll be fine.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 01:32 am |
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They should increase the stop signs also, as must people think putting their foot on the brake equals actually stopping
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Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 01:02 am |
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| saw them today on goldwater ridge........they are big, aren't they
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Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 12:27 am |
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azsu wrote: didn't see any new street signs...where are they?
. . . hold on, they're coming to a neighborhood near you and you won't be able to miss them.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2007 07:31 pm |
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| They are so big this was the first time I didn't have to wear my glasses. Have to agree, they are really tacky looking.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2007 07:25 pm |
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Snow Birds are coming back. I would guess the new signs are a result of the complaints regarding the small street signs. The new ones are big enough to serve I-10.

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Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2007 03:16 am |
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| I heard there is only one stop light (Sunrise and Mountain view) and that the council has only voted on the design, they have not voted on putting it in...could take some time. You won't be able to miss the new signs.
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