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Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 04:12 pm |
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Goldrush: The current election will result in replacement of only one member from the list below. The rest are current Board members, with the exception of Martha Bails.
Martha Bails
Jan Kroesen
Rosemary Murphy
John Such
Bill Sullivan
I attended "Meet the Candidates" on Friday and found only 2 or 3 that I could support. No one talked about two of the big issues on my neighbors minds----security cameras operational at all entrances to SCG, and a Board willing to hold down spending in a severe recession. Instead, they all referred to a list of 20+ expensive projects they are currently entertaining, many which will cost thousands.
Goto GrandInfo.Com to read about these proposals. The Board also announced another 4 % increase in assessments and unknown increases in fees such as the CARE fee and a long list of fees associated with selling your home and using our facilities.
I sent in questions as did those sitting beside me, but it seemed they were discarded in favor Board friendly policy questions, often repetitive.
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Posted: Fri Feb 1st, 2008 03:48 am |
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| Unfortuntely only one will be able to get replaced. Hopefully everyone will want to see a new face on the board and not just re-elect the clones of Harvey
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 10:17 pm |
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. . . Noteboom is stepping down as chairman of the board, but wants to retain a seat on the board. The forthcoming election will permit residents to replace current board members through the power of the ballot box.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 03:29 am |
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| Yes Cindisue, They should be dismissed immediately. But our board people are special. They get away with alot. Most of them are unethical. I am sure that alot of people are starting to find out about Harvey and his group of clones. Hopefully we can get rid of at least one of them this election.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 02:23 am |
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[url=">[font=]http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=128670&title=really-old-cops&to=5[/url]
didn't know where to put this, so put it in here
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Posted: Mon Jan 28th, 2008 12:05 am |
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| i have no idea how long harvey has been on the board...the first few years i didn't pay much attention to them until they decided they didn't like my wok pots....that got my attention....i have been under the impression it was 2 2 year terms....apparently i was wrong or it got changed.....and i really started paying attenion when the age initiative came up. whatever the reason for him stepping down mid-term, had to be a good one...he doesn't strike me as the type that would relinquish power readily
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 11:47 pm |
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| azsu, say it ain't so - no board member would defy the bylaws would they? If it is true, shouldn't they be dismissed immediately? Last edited on Sun Jan 27th, 2008 11:49 pm by cindisue_g
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 10:16 pm |
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cindisue_g wrote: I do not believe that all the residents of Sun City Grand feel the same way you do.
that's a safe conclusion...it's unusual that 10,000 ppl would feel the same way about anything.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 09:57 pm |
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nope, thats not it
3.5 Election and Term of Office. Annual elections for directors shall be held in the first three
months of each calendar year. Directors elected at such annual elections shall take office on
April 1 of that year. Each director shall be entitled to serve a two-year term, provided that
directors shall serve until their successor is elected or appointed as the case may be and take
office. Directors may serve up to three consecutive terms.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 09:48 pm |
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hmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!! mitzi, the reason for harvey stepping down as president.
now, thats a possibility..........she is doing a cc&r 101. maybe she found a part that said only 2 terms per board member. i shall have to read that part of the cc&r's.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 08:34 pm |
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| I also suspect, that Harvey has trouble dealing with a strong woman who will not step aside to his antics.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 08:32 pm |
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| Hey DWIG22 you should not be blaming the CAVE people for Harvey leaving the presidency. He has no one to blame but himself. Again as usual you are wrong. He will not be hard to replace. He should never have been president of the board for a 3rd term. Everyone else has to leave after serving 2 terms. What made him think he was so SPECIAL. Only his own ARROGANCE.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 08:28 pm |
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| All of my neighbors agree, big thumbs up for Mitzi if she is the reason for Harvey stepping down. She probably did her homework and wondered how Harvey could serve 3 terms as President. Isn't it amazing how many of Harvey's friends read this blog and respond by trying to make us believe that he was so fantastic. What Bull. Unfortunely John Such is just a Harvey CLONE. But we'll see if he will at least try to treat the rest of us homeowners with some respect.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 07:50 pm |
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| All of my neighbors give Mitzi an unanimous thumbs up! Her changes have all been for the betterment of Sun City Grand.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 07:18 pm |
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I suspect Harvey Noteboom has stepped aside because of Mitzi. She has made too many changes too fast. He is still a board member.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 07:14 pm |
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| he is still on the board....just not president
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 07:13 pm |
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Harvey is GONE AT Last..... He did a lot of damage.... I wonder if he is going to work for Pulte now???
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 06:27 pm |
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| I do not believe that all the residents of Sun City Grand feel the same way you do.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 05:44 pm |
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cindisue_g wrote: No need for God's help yet and no need to worry, Harvey is still on the board (he just stepped down from President). Anyone that knows Roberts Rules of Order will be able to run the meeting. I believe Mr. Such will do a fine job.
Such is nowhere nearly as reflective or diplomatic as Harvey..this is a loss.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 03:38 pm |
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| No need for God's help yet and no need to worry, Harvey is still on the board (he just stepped down from President). Anyone that knows Roberts Rules of Order will be able to run the meeting. I believe Mr. Such will do a fine job.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 01:07 am |
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azsu wrote: does anyone have a clue as to why harvey resigned as board president
I just found that out today and it makes me worry. He will be hard to replace. I can only think it's because of all the CAVE people. Now they will see what happens without him. God help us.
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Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2008 10:38 pm |
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goldrush wrote: "But...absolutely noting (sic) to lose (sic) by joining the suit..." and, in this case, nothing to gain. But it does keep idle minds busy.
If you took a computer class, Goldrush, you might be able to learn to cut and paste...so you wouldn't need to waste your valuable time correcting typos....talk about an idle mind being kept busy!
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Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2008 09:40 pm |
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| does anyone have a clue as to why harvey resigned as board president
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Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2007 05:33 am |
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"But...absolutely noting (sic) to lose (sic) by joining the suit..." and, in this case, nothing to gain. But it does keep idle minds busy.
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| But...absolutely noting to lose by joining the suit...pulte flat out told me they won't fix what's not warrented...where did I get the crazy idea that a house should last a lot more than 2 years before needing repairs?
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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 08:47 pm |
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S Stevens wrote: BikerDude, the law firm always takes their cut (anywhere between 20 and 30 percent or so) off the top. That is common practice.
Not only that, but they will abandon the effort if it doesn't generate enough absolute #'s to make it worth their while. And, it's not a forgone conclusion that the courts will grant them class action status if it ever gets that far.
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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 06:39 pm |
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| BikerDude, the law firm always takes their cut (anywhere between 20 and 30 percent or so) off the top. That is common practice.
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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 04:37 pm |
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BikerDude wrote: Well I had my house "inspected" by a paralegal from the class action attorney's office last week.
This week I received a letter saying that my house makes me eligible to participate.
Now I get to see some of the fine print, which tells me some of the expenses that will be deducted before I get anything. Interesting.

. . . . were you expecting anything less? This is NOT a scam, but it is a fishing expedition. As P.T. Barnum said . . . .
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Biker
I have lived in Arizona all of my adult life. We have built five brand new homes in that time. Each time we were contacted and/or our neighbors were contacted by a law firm trying to put together a class action law suit against the builder. It's a common scam here in AZ and I would be careful if I were you.
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Well I had my house "inspected" by a paralegal from the class action attorney's office last week.
This week I received a letter saying that my house makes me eligible to participate.
Now I get to see some of the fine print, which tells me some of the expenses that will be deducted before I get anything. Interesting.

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BB35 wrote: I heard that one of the tricks the crooks are using to find unoccupied homes is they turn off some switches in the outside power box. Then they check back in a few days to see if the switches are still off..
I put padlocks on my outside boxes....
I padlocked my breaker box also, right after I found an electrician with the box open.
Said he had to change defective breakers. I told him he was lucky that the dogs didn't see him first.

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Posted: Fri Nov 16th, 2007 09:58 pm |
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. . . purchased a taser in case I encounter one the SOB's. Kinda pricey, but lots of piece of mind.
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I heard that one of the tricks the crooks are using to find unoccupied homes is they turn off some switches in the outside power box. Then they check back in a few days to see if the switches are still off..
I put padlocks on my outside boxes....
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The open enrollment period for Medicare is here.
Most private insurers that provide the drug benefit (stand alone plans only) are raising premiums. The average premium for the top three plans (by enrollment) is set to rise 27%. This is according to an analysis from the federal government and private insurers. Some 90% of beneficiaries will have access to at least one plan with lower premiums than what they pay in 2007. Some examples: AARP MedicareRx, renamed AARP MedicareRx Preferred, is increasing 16%. PacifiCare Select, renamed AARP MedicareRx Saver, is increasing 65%. SilverScript, offered by CVS Caremark Corp, will be 24% lower. Universal American Financial Corp.'s Community Care Rx will decrease its average premium 12%. Additionally, some plans have increased their co-pays. The "doughnut hole" gap begins after the beneficiary and their plans pay $2,510 in drug costs at which point plans aren't required to pay benefits until the enrollee has spent $4,050 out-of-pocket.
Source: WSJ 11.13.07
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Posted: Tue Nov 6th, 2007 08:31 pm |
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Information from Sergeant Ortega regarding one of the recent burglaries in the Willow Grove area. Please keep your eyes open for these suspects and call the police immediately if you see any suspicious behavior.
The suspects that may be involved in these burglaries may be driving an older gray pickup possibly a Nissan. The first suspect is described as a white female 5'5" 125 pounds, with brown shoulder length hair. The second suspect is described as a Hispanic male approximately 5'6" 20 to 30 years old with baggy clothes.
I have received a few requests for information on a few burglaries that occurred on Sterling Drive.
- [size=Between 10/16 – 10/27 burglars entered by breaking bathroom window and stole jewelry, computer and vehicle.]
- [size=Between 10/22 – 10/30 burglars entered through small sliding rear window and stole various items. Finger prints were located and sent to the lab.]
- [size=On 11/03 burglars entered via front door kick and stole various items.]
*Note: After the last burglary, numerous neighbors on Sterling Drive reported to the responding officer that they had seen several suspicious vehicles and persons (now these were great leads), but unfortunately no one called the police. In one incident, a resident on Sterling Drive said he came into contact with some suspicious subjects at his rear door after they had knocked on his front door. (he did not answer the front door so they walked to the rear). We need everyone to CALL THE POLICE when they see something suspicious.
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Posted: Sun Nov 4th, 2007 09:58 pm |
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. . . what is it about N. Sterling Drive that thieves find so inviting?
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Posted: Sun Nov 4th, 2007 09:53 pm |
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just received this
Mountain View II Residents and Friends
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> This morning when I opened my e-mail there was a note regarding a robbery
> last night, Saturday (11/3) on N. Sterling Drive.
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> I just finished (Sunday 11/4) talking to the homeowner that was robbed so
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> The owner left the house Saturday around 5:10 p.m. and returned back home
> approximately 6:45p.m. The front door had been pried open, and items from
> the house were stolen. This was done in less then 2 hours. I am not
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> into more specifics at this time. The important point is that this did
> happen and for people to stay alert and if they see anyone acting
> suspicious in their neighborhoods call the police.
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> Last week there were two other robberies reported on Sterling Drive that I
> was told about. I did not send out an e-mail as I was trying to go
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> the "proper" channels to verify this. I requested verification that a
> robbery was reported on Saturday 10/27 and another robbery on Monday 10/29
> and that both robberies were on N. Sterling Drive. I have not had a
> response from the Police Dept. but I am telling you now that these other
> two robberies did happen.
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> This is not meant to make you afraid or nervous but to emphasize that we
> need to stay alert. If you see someone on your street that does not look
> like they belong there call the police. If you see strange cars make a
> note of color and model. Watch your neighbors house if they are away.
> This is a safe place to live but we can make it even safer if we help each
> other. It is better to call the police on something that turns out to be
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> false alarm then to sit back and do nothing and have one of our friends
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> robbed.
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. . . sounds like they're acting as a go btwn. That's nice to hear.
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| goldrush, my neighbor has been in contact with Pulte, they have a department that just deals with termites and they are coming out this week to see what needs to be done.
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 08:42 pm |
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Nancy wrote: Termites - has any one had a bad problem with termites. I'm in Phase 4 and I have not seen any signs, but a few of my neighbors have them; some even have them really bad.
If you are not looking for them, you might want to start. If it is within the warranty period, Pulte will come out and spray again.
. . . think you'll find that the company who handled the application and issued the warranty would be the folks to contact if you have a problem - NOT PULTE.
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Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 05:15 pm |
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better idea........semi tight jeans with pockets or a vest with velcro pockets and carry a drivers license and one credit card........an old midwest xmas shopping trick
I've been using the jeans trick since the purse snatchings started a couple of months ago
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Women should not carry large purses. A large purse broadcasts the message "MUG ME". My wife carries a small clutch purse with cards and driver license that she can put in a pocket when shopping... All other stuff is kept in the car....
I am amazed how women leave a large purse in the shopping cart wide open when their backs are turned looking for stuff.... It looks to me that most are Midwesterners..
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Termites - has any one had a bad problem with termites. I'm in Phase 4 and I have not seen any signs, but a few of my neighbors have them; some even have them really bad.
If you are not looking for them, you might want to start. If it is within the warranty period, Pulte will come out and spray again.
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Thank you so much for alerting us of this issue. This just goes to show why we should also be more careful in our own community by locking our doors and keeping our garage doors down. We have already had an invasion and other crimes, and it seems that more and more crime is coming to our area and we do not I repeat do not have the police manpower to take care of this city. The mayor is always playing catch up with new hires. When she tells you they hired 3 or 4 new policeman ask her are these really new hires or just replacements of officers who are retireing, or leaving for another position. The mayor will do whatever is necessary for the Fire Department and the reason for that which she is quick to tell her is because she lost her husband who was a fireman. Why should she not do the same for the police, they risk their lives on daily basis also. We are understaffed in this community and the city governments continue to allow more building without the proper infrastructure in place. Thanks again for the notice.azsu wrote: just received this
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Dear Friends,
Last evening my neighbor and friend was at Lowes and had her purse stolen from her car while she was loading her purchases in her trunk. The thieves were 3 white women probably in their 20's. One was blond, one dark haired and the third looked older, but another witness thought she was also in her 20's but looked like she was on drugs. Two women were in a car and the third makes the snatch and jumps in the car and they take off.
Please everyone be vigilant of your surroundings and never leave your purse unattended even for a moment. These women are fast.
The police think they have a line on these women. Lets hope they get them.
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Dear Friends,
Last evening my neighbor and friend was at Lowes and had her purse stolen from her car while she was loading her purchases in her trunk. The thieves were 3 white women probably in their 20's. One was blond, one dark haired and the third looked older, but another witness thought she was also in her 20's but looked like she was on drugs. Two women were in a car and the third makes the snatch and jumps in the car and they take off.
Please everyone be vigilant of your surroundings and never leave your purse unattended even for a moment. These women are fast.
The police think they have a line on these women. Lets hope they get them.
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ninuchy wrote: goldrush wrote: Is SCG HOA affected by the water rate hike? CAM doesn't know!
You should be able to get your answer from Harvey Noteboom if he will answer you. He has made an issue of this in the past. He thinks he has all the answers, so lets see if he does.
. . . spoke with the City Manager. SCG is not affected.
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| Cindisue I forgot to respond about the committee thing you said. It is very true about not being able to get on committees. I am living proof. I wish to serve on a committee and there is a certain board member that will not let me serve. If I were to get on this committee things would be made very difficult for the person in charge. This isn't fair. There is also another person that wants to be on this committee and he also can't be, because of the same board member. The power that he thinks he has, has gone to his head, and he rules like it. What ever he wants he gets at the expense of the homeowners. This other person and myself served the committee very well for over 4 years, and alot of the people on that committee were trained by me. I would actually be an asset. But because I am a thorn in one of the Board members side, I am being tossed aside for his personal vendetta.
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cindisue_g wrote: ninucy, when you post, please either copy the post your are responding to or address it to that person. Sometimes you are a little hard to following.
I do agree with you on one thing, many, many people are shocked how some of the money is being spent (i.e., woodshop and possible pickleball pavilion) and that there seems to be a "social club" running SCG and if you are not a part of it, they make it very difficult for you to participate in committees, etc.
Isn't it amazing at how the minority is always getting their entertainment paid for by everyone who lives in Grand. I wish that they would pay for my movie going experience. I feel that if everyone who wants to play pickle ball should pay for that entertainment, likewise woodshop, ceramics. You pay for the things you need with your dues, not my back pocket. Then when you get new members there is a membership fee you pay. The majority of us are paying for the minority. That to me is not being fiscally responsible with are CARE Funds or our annual assessments. Hows this for an idea. Anyone who participates in a function or club in Grand should have a higher assessment than the people who do not belong to anything. The people who do not wish to use or join any club or activity should not have to pay for other peoples entertainment. We all know that won't fly.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:49 pm |
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goldrush wrote: Is SCG HOA affected by the water rate hike? CAM doesn't know!
You should be able to get your answer from Harvey Noteboom if he will answer you. He has made an issue of this in the past. He thinks he has all the answers, so lets see if he does.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31st, 2007 04:47 pm |
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dwig222 wrote: goldrush wrote: DUSD and City Council recall campaigns are getting started. Seems to be the thing to do when you're unhappy with the governance. Should SCG mount a recall campaign?
There is no need for a recall. We have a wonderful homeowners association that is very much in the black. We are the envy of other homeowner associations. We also have a handfull (out of 10,000) of people who want everything done their way. They don't understand the concept of "majority rules". Why do you think Harvey Noteboom gets re-elected if we are unhappy?
The wood shop was too small; it needed to be bigger. Pickleball is very, very popular here in SCG and it will be great to have a pavillion.
If someone started a recall, the signatures would fit on a post-it note.
There definitely is a need for a recall. You are just brainwashed if you think that everyone is happy with this association. You are in someones back pocket. It is simply not true that things are all rosey here. You believe what you want to hear because you probably don't get out and contribute time to this community. If you did you would hear how many people are disgruntled. Someday you are going to be in for an eye opening experience when you find out how many signatures we can get on a POST IT NOTE. You are blind to reality. I just hope that you don't have to learn the hard way and take the rest of us down with you.
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