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Posted: Sun Dec 30th, 2007 03:32 pm |
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Thank you for recognizing what I am trying to say. It's such a mystery to me why anyone who is a legal citizen in this country wouldn't be opposed to people coming to this country illegally and then taking over our policies, our public spaces, and our job market. Each and every one of us is directly affected by these people and when the LEGAL CITIZENS cry "enough" then suddenly we are being intolerant! I say we have been more than tolerant and have caused these illegal people to become spoiled in their expectations. They have become too comfortable here. They come here illegally, live on the cheap, pay VERY LITTLE taxes, contribute to crowds, pollution, and added expenses in public services, and then they still continue to demand more. Every time I see a bilingual sign or product label, or "press 1 for English" option, I get irritated all over again. I think "we" have done more to accommodate "these illegals" than "we" should. If that makes me intolerant, then so be it!
Mrs. F I feel exactly the same way. They are also taking up our jails which causes overcrowding. People who should be in jail are out running the streets because we have no room in our jails for them.
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cindisue_g wrote: Mrs. F, are you intolerant, yes I think so. You are intolerant of those that do not obey our laws of this country, something all of us legal citizens have to do. It would be nice if others could understand what you are saying. Illegal immigrants (doesn't matter what country they come from) came into this county illegally and thus they do not fall under the United States Constitution or laws of this country.
Thank you for recognizing what I am trying to say. It's such a mystery to me why anyone who is a legal citizen in this country wouldn't be opposed to people coming to this country illegally and then taking over our policies, our public spaces, and our job market. Each and every one of us is directly affected by these people and when the LEGAL CITIZENS cry "enough" then suddenly we are being intolerant! I say we have been more than tolerant and have caused these illegal people to become spoiled in their expectations. They have become too comfortable here. They come here illegally, live on the cheap, pay VERY LITTLE taxes, contribute to crowds, pollution, and added expenses in public services, and then they still continue to demand more. Every time I see a bilingual sign or product label, or "press 1 for English" option, I get irritated all over again. I think "we" have done more to accommodate "these illegals" than "we" should. If that makes me intolerant, then so be it!
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Mrs. F, are you intolerant, yes I think so. You are intolerant of those that do not obey our laws of this country, something all of us legal citizens have to do. It would be nice if others could understand what you are saying. Illegal immigrants (doesn't matter what country they come from) came into this county illegally and thus they do not fall under the United States Constitution or laws of this country.
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sometimes rational wrote: MrsF wrote: sometimes rational wrote: MrsF wrote: SR,
What makes a person a racist if they are opposed to illegal immigration? Please back it up with something substantial. A hollow accusation without actual support just makes you lack credibility as far as I am concerned.
here's the deal: it's a tad disingenuous to be critical of a group of immigrants for coming here to look for work and, at the same time, claim that this same group doesn't want to work....when the same person expresses both beliefs about Mexican immigrants, yeh, that's racist. Now: I don't belief every person outraged by the open border to our south is racist...but I do believe racists have found a conveniently socially acceptable means of being anti-Mexican by claiming to be just anti-illegal. This has been going on for sooo long, why is now at the forefront?
It's now at the forefront because the ILLEGALS are "ballsy" enough to actually protest in our streets demanding all sorts of demands of us and our government when they don't even belong here in the first place. The common people are frustrated because our government is cowtowing to them instead of their legal citizens for fear of making them mad because if they are granted amnesty they now become a huge voting block. Nobody in the government wants to do anything definite about it and those of us who oppose ILLEGALS are then marked as racist. I take offense to that, but I am also offended by what the ILLEGALS are getting away with. Nobody seems to care that I and the rest of middle America are offended. This large Hispanic voting block is who really matters in the end, not you and I who were legally born or naturalized into this country and have been living by the rules since the start.
"Ballsy" enuf? ...pardon me but where does it say one must be an American citizen to legally demonstrate in American? I must have missed that in Civics. and what are they demanding? the signs I see are that they're asking to be treated with dignity...is that offensive to you? ..and your comment that nobody in the gov't wants to do anything definite about it is untrue...You've forgot the Kennedy-McCain bill that died? The problem is--when senators float a bill you don't like, you claim they did nothing...when protesters you don't like protest, you try to tell us they have no right to protest, even tho they do...so..this is America..ppl have different views whether it's about immigration, gay rights, or banning oleanders and they have a right to express their views, just as much as you and I. I'm glad you're not a racist..but I'm sorry you're intolerant.
First of all, they don't have a Constitutional Right to anything in this country because the Constitution applies to CITIZENS. Citizens are defined clearly as all people BORN OR NATURALIZED in the United States. Therefore, they are being ballsy in their demands, of which they are not entitled to.
Second of all, what dignity are they demanding? They are demanding that they NOT be considered criminals. They broke the law and are blatant about it. Our police officers are using due process by asking for their proof of citizenship (asking for proper I.D.) when people are loitering around outside of businesses pestering customers for "work". Pruitt's is private property and they have a right to conduct business without harrassment, and their customers have a right to enter and exit the store without being harrassed by people, legal or otherwise.
Trust me, I don't want to shut down people with opposing views. I love that people discuss and debate issues from both ends. I just really HATE that people are coming into this country ILLEGALLY and making all sorts of demands and actually getting away with it. Debate and discussion is healthy. Coming out of the woodwork and demanding things people aren't entitled to by the very nature of their being here illegally is very offensive to me. You can call me intolerant if you want. I am intolerant of such behaviors. It's not the people themselves, it's the attitude they display - like they are entitled to something. Basically, they sneak into this country, are "treated without dignity" (I haven't figured out how, exactly), and then are upset about the LEGAL citizens being fed up and demanding change.
I have a right to be upset. It seems to me like you are intolerant of my right to be upset. I actually have a constitutional right to be upset. I also am represented by Senators, Congressmen and a President, which gives me a right to protest their actions, or lack thereof. You see, the right to protest applies to The U.S. Government. I don't think people who don't legally belong here should have a right to protest OUR OWN government.
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| When your in the middle like me SR it is easy to spot the left and right because it is all around me. Thank you for sort of answering the question. I didnt mis-quote you i just had to decide where you stood because you didnt really come out and say it . Blaming the tax code doesnt change anything. Illegals pay no taxes period, unless they have fake documents and then it is collected and they probablly get it back and then some at tax time, then it means they are really taxing the system because they are not entitled to it at all. The tax code has nothing to do with it. I am against paying anyone under the table as you are or should be. Im guessing that you are talking about pruitts because they are the only company i am aware of being protested and if im not mistaken its not because they pay under the table it is because the illegals are trespassing while they are looking to make a tax free income. If i mis-quoted you again im sorry.
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Craig wrote: SR in typical leftist fashion did not answer the question. I agree lets all pay a fair share. Craig, Craig, Craig, in typical extreme- right fashion, you are accusing me of ducking a question not asked..your question to me was if I pay taxes.
The question was and still is why are you ok with the ILLEGALS working and not paying anything ?
Try and stick to the question, no spinning allowed.
Ok Craig..first, i'm wondering how do you recognize 'lelfist fashion'? You don't see much of it around here..it must be like spotting a 5 legged rabbit...but to answer THIS question: I didn't say I was OK with illegals nor legals working and paying no taxes..I hate it when you misquote me..what I said it that it's a much lesser priority to me when a lower income person trying to make ends meet is getting paid without taxes paid than it is with super wealthy persons milking the system and not paying their pay share. I note you're not obviously upset with with employers paying ppl under the table even tho those employers are not paying SS taxes nor Workers Comp taxes for those employees.....why are ppl protesting them?Last edited on Sun Dec 30th, 2007 06:08 am by
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MrsF wrote: sometimes rational wrote: MrsF wrote: SR,
What makes a person a racist if they are opposed to illegal immigration? Please back it up with something substantial. A hollow accusation without actual support just makes you lack credibility as far as I am concerned.
here's the deal: it's a tad disingenuous to be critical of a group of immigrants for coming here to look for work and, at the same time, claim that this same group doesn't want to work....when the same person expresses both beliefs about Mexican immigrants, yeh, that's racist. Now: I don't belief every person outraged by the open border to our south is racist...but I do believe racists have found a conveniently socially acceptable means of being anti-Mexican by claiming to be just anti-illegal. This has been going on for sooo long, why is now at the forefront?
It's now at the forefront because the ILLEGALS are "ballsy" enough to actually protest in our streets demanding all sorts of demands of us and our government when they don't even belong here in the first place. The common people are frustrated because our government is cowtowing to them instead of their legal citizens for fear of making them mad because if they are granted amnesty they now become a huge voting block. Nobody in the government wants to do anything definite about it and those of us who oppose ILLEGALS are then marked as racist. I take offense to that, but I am also offended by what the ILLEGALS are getting away with. Nobody seems to care that I and the rest of middle America are offended. This large Hispanic voting block is who really matters in the end, not you and I who were legally born or naturalized into this country and have been living by the rules since the start.
"Ballsy" enuf? ...pardon me but where does it say one must be an American citizen to legally demonstrate in American? I must have missed that in Civics. and what are they demanding? the signs I see are that they're asking to be treated with dignity...is that offensive to you? ..and your comment that nobody in the gov't wants to do anything definite about it is untrue...You've forgot the Kennedy-McCain bill that died? The problem is--when senators float a bill you don't like, you claim they did nothing...when protesters you don't like protest, you try to tell us they have no right to protest, even tho they do...so..this is America..ppl have different views whether it's about immigration, gay rights, or banning oleanders and they have a right to express their views, just as much as you and I. I'm glad you're not a racist..but I'm sorry you're intolerant.
I am not a racist. I am offended by people being allowed, nay, ENCOURAGED to thumb their nose at our laws and continue to get away with it and then gather in the streets to protest OUR OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT. The fact that they happen to be Mexican is purely coincidental. People who are Mexican don't bother me. People who are here illegally do. How dare they take offense that our law enforcement do what they need to do to report people who don't belong here to the proper authorities. I have been outside the businesses where these illegal day laborers gather (Grand Avenue, Cave Creek/Bell, etc.) and I will not enter these parking lots for fear of what might happen. Seeing droves of men hanging around and loitering in a parking lot is not something a woman wants to encounter, harmless or not. Why do they even have a say in what our own police do? Call it racial profiling, call it cracking down on an illegal activity, call it what you will. Our police have a right, as long as they don't violate due process and the U.S. Constitution (which applies to U.S. Citizens), they have a right to do what they need to do.
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MrsF wrote: sometimes rational wrote: MrsF wrote: SR,
What makes a person a racist if they are opposed to illegal immigration? Please back it up with something substantial. A hollow accusation without actual support just makes you lack credibility as far as I am concerned.
here's the deal: it's a tad disingenuous to be critical of a group of immigrants for coming here to look for work and, at the same time, claim that this same group doesn't want to work....when the same person expresses both beliefs about Mexican immigrants, yeh, that's racist. Now: I don't belief every person outraged by the open border to our south is racist...but I do believe racists have found a conveniently socially acceptable means of being anti-Mexican by claiming to be just anti-illegal. This has been going on for sooo long, why is now at the forefront?
It's now at the forefront because the ILLEGALS are "ballsy" enough to actually protest in our streets demanding all sorts of demands of us and our government when they don't even belong here in the first place. The common people are frustrated because our government is cowtowing to them instead of their legal citizens for fear of making them mad because if they are granted amnesty they now become a huge voting block. Nobody in the government wants to do anything definite about it and those of us who oppose ILLEGALS are then marked as racist. I take offense to that, but I am also offended by what the ILLEGALS are getting away with. Nobody seems to care that I and the rest of middle America are offended. This large Hispanic voting block is who really matters in the end, not you and I who were legally born or naturalized into this country and have been living by the rules since the start.
"Ballsy" enuf? ...pardon me but where does it say one must be an American citizen to legally demonstrate in American? I must have missed that in Civics. and what are they demanding? the signs I see are that they're asking to be treated with dignity...is that offensive to you? ..and your comment that nobody in the gov't wants to do anything definite about it is untrue...You've forgot the Kennedy-McCain bill that died? The problem is--when senators float a bill you don't like, you claim they did nothing...when protesters you don't like protest, you try to tell us they have no right to protest, even tho they do...so..this is America..ppl have different views whether it's about immigration, gay rights, or banning oleanders and they have a right to express their views, just as much as you and I. I'm glad you're not a racist..but I'm sorry you're intolerant.
I am not a racist. I am offended by people being allowed, nay, ENCOURAGED to thumb their nose at our laws and continue to get away with it and then gather in the streets to protest OUR OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT. The fact that they happen to be Mexican is purely coincidental. People who are Mexican don't bother me. People who are here illegally do. How dare they take offense that our law enforcement do what they need to do to report people who don't belong here to the proper authorities. I have been outside the businesses where these illegal day laborers gather (Grand Avenue, Cave Creek/Bell, etc.) and I will not enter these parking lots for fear of what might happen. Seeing droves of men hanging around and loitering in a parking lot is not something a woman wants to encounter, harmless or not. Why do they even have a say in what our own police do? Call it racial profiling, call it cracking down on an illegal activity, call it what you will. Our police have a right, as long as they don't violate due process and the U.S. Constitution (which applies to U.S. Citizens), they have a right to do what they need to do.
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SR in typical leftist fashion did not answer the question. I agree lets all pay a fair share.
The question was and still is why are you ok with the ILLEGALS working and not paying anything ?
Try and stick to the question, no spinning allowed.
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sometimes rational wrote: MrsF wrote: SR,
What makes a person a racist if they are opposed to illegal immigration? Please back it up with something substantial. A hollow accusation without actual support just makes you lack credibility as far as I am concerned.
here's the deal: it's a tad disingenuous to be critical of a group of immigrants for coming here to look for work and, at the same time, claim that this same group doesn't want to work....when the same person expresses both beliefs about Mexican immigrants, yeh, that's racist. Now: I don't belief every person outraged by the open border to our south is racist...but I do believe racists have found a conveniently socially acceptable means of being anti-Mexican by claiming to be just anti-illegal. This has been going on for sooo long, why is now at the forefront?
It's now at the forefront because the ILLEGALS are "ballsy" enough to actually protest in our streets demanding all sorts of demands of us and our government when they don't even belong here in the first place. The common people are frustrated because our government is cowtowing to them instead of their legal citizens for fear of making them mad because if they are granted amnesty they now become a huge voting block. Nobody in the government wants to do anything definite about it and those of us who oppose ILLEGALS are then marked as racist. I take offense to that, but I am also offended by what the ILLEGALS are getting away with. Nobody seems to care that I and the rest of middle America are offended. This large Hispanic voting block is who really matters in the end, not you and I who were legally born or naturalized into this country and have been living by the rules since the start.
I am not a racist. I am offended by people being allowed, nay, ENCOURAGED to thumb their nose at our laws and continue to get away with it and then gather in the streets to protest OUR OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT. The fact that they happen to be Mexican is purely coincidental. People who are Mexican don't bother me. People who are here illegally do. How dare they take offense that our law enforcement do what they need to do to report people who don't belong here to the proper authorities. I have been outside the businesses where these illegal day laborers gather (Grand Avenue, Cave Creek/Bell, etc.) and I will not enter these parking lots for fear of what might happen. Seeing droves of men hanging around and loitering in a parking lot is not something a woman wants to encounter, harmless or not. Why do they even have a say in what our own police do? Call it racial profiling, call it cracking down on an illegal activity, call it what you will. Our police have a right, as long as they don't violate due process and the U.S. Constitution (which applies to U.S. Citizens), they have a right to do what they need to do.
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Craig wrote: Getting work and not paying taxes... Good work Joe. Dont understand why your for that SR ! Dont you have to pay taxes SR?
Yup--I sure do..and at a much greater proportion than the super-wealthy who have been allowed to skate by Bush..and..ya know what else? I don't mind paying taxes at all....let's have the super wealthy pay their fair share and then look at low income workers getting paid under the table, just trying to make ends meet.
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MrsF wrote: SR,
What makes a person a racist if they are opposed to illegal immigration? Please back it up with something substantial. A hollow accusation without actual support just makes you lack credibility as far as I am concerned.
here's the deal: it's a tad disingenuous to be critical of a group of immigrants for coming here to look for work and, at the same time, claim that this same group doesn't want to work....when the same person expresses both beliefs about Mexican immigrants, yeh, that's racist. Now: I don't belief every person outraged by the open border to our south is racist...but I do believe racists have found a conveniently socially acceptable means of being anti-Mexican by claiming to be just anti-illegal. This has been going on for sooo long, why is now at the forefront? Last edited on Sat Dec 29th, 2007 07:58 pm by
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 05:38 am |
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SR,
What makes a person a racist if they are opposed to illegal immigration? Please back it up with something substantial. A hollow accusation without actual support just makes you lack credibility as far as I am concerned.
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It isn't being "racist" in not wanting illegal aliens coming into our country and living off the American taxpayer, it is more like "being stupid" if we all know that it is happening and we don't stop it. Let all the "LEGAL" immigrants come that we can legitimately process and be sure will assimilate into our culture and become "American". Nobody disagrees with that. The "Open Border" groupies call anyone who has a common sense approach to this devastating problem "racist" in hopes of shutting them down. It doesn't work though.
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Now we have a interactive web site that teaches our children to speak spanish. What's this world coming too?
It's not sarcastic comments he is making, He is trying to be funny.Last edited on Sat Dec 29th, 2007 12:05 pm by GEM127
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sometimes rational wrote:
What??? They are looking for work???The nerve of those people...don't they know they are screwing up the racist's theory that they are just here for welfare?
This is the sarcastic comment I was talking about. If you did not intend on it being sarcastic, then I apologize.
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| Getting work and not paying taxes... Good work Joe. Dont understand why your for that SR ! Dont you have to pay taxes SR? Last edited on Sat Dec 29th, 2007 01:59 am by Craig
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I don't remember hearing anyone stereotype Hispanic illegal immigrants as welfare seekers. I've always heard that they come here to get work, just to send the money back home. In my opinion, that's stealing from our economy.
What I have heard, and also believe, is that they do not pay for their insurance, and many are provided state insurance. That's what people are upset about. There are many legal Americans whom cannot afford their own insurance, but our state gives health coverage to illegal immigrants.
That's way different from welfare! Everyone knows that Hispanics are typically hard workers who do a pretty good job. That's why it is such a big deal that the government is cracking down on employers who hire known illegal immigrants.
You may want to check your facts sometimes rational before you make a sarcastic comment like you did.
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GEM127 wrote: And if you have a truck they come right up to you and ask for work.
Thank you Sheriff Joe.
What??? They are looking for work???The nerve of those people...don't they know they are screwing up the racist's theory that they are just here for welfare?
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You are so right. Maybe some of Sheriff Joe's drive comes from his political ambition but at least he is doing something. Yes, they did all the work for us by marching. We probably could have deported about 1/2 of them back to Mexico just on that one day event.
I know just about every Saturday at Pruitt's furniture, the American Freedom Riders and other groups protest the day laborers who stand in Pruitt's parking lot. The owner of Pruitt's calls the Sheriff's department about the day laborers, because he has lost a lot of customers. Most of the people (especially woman) are afraid of them. And if you have a truck they come right up to you and ask for work.
Thank you Sheriff Joe.
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I think that it's great what Sherriff Joe is doing. I agree that it isn't going to solve or fix any problem, but at least someone is finally upholding the laws.
In my opinion, if you look at all of the immigration laws that are already in place, we wouldn't have as many problems if they were upheld. Maybe this will send a message to some.
When they had that huge march on April 10th, 2006, we should have had buses with law enforcement to bus them all back to Mexico. They all did the easy part. No one had to search for them. They all got together in one place and told everyone weeks before! LOL
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This is the actual link. It took me a while to search for it, so I thought I'd post the acutal link for everyone else who wants to view it.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=2F0B21D8D230DB111DEA1B61A708F235?contentId=5105077&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
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| Absolutely, come on in! But just do it legally, there is a reason for the system being in place, and that is to maintain checks and balances against crime, potential terrorists, abuse of the welfare system, illegal driving and uninsured motorists, etc. I don't have anything against LEGAL immigration, emigrating is a valuable culture tool that teaches us how other countries and cultures exist. Too bad our own government is in no big hurry to correct the issues at hand. Maybe when HRC gets elected, LOL, things will change.
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This country was founded by for the most part, immigrants. I know my family came here through Ellis Island and had to speak english. I feel everyone should have the right to come here, but LEGALLY.
It is a fact that many of the illegals do cost us money. They drive with no license, no insurance, have accidents and dissappear. So my insurance has to pay because they were drunk and uninsured. No not all the time, but often enough. Many commit crimes and when caught, because they have "rights" they are out on bail and guess what, they are gone.
I have many friends who are Mexican, and from other lands, they came here legally and feel the same as I do.
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| Let's just let the terrorists go to Mexico, sneak in through the border, so they are free to set up shop here in the states. Localizing their cells in our backyard should have the gov't reeling and scurrying to close our borders, yet it is more important to go secure oil rights in another country at the cost of our military youth, and the gov't says they are short-handed, underfunded and seeminlgy have no problem putting this issue on the back burner. I don't mind immigration as long as it's done legally with some tracking and accountability, but this is just getting way out of hand. If Mexico weren't such a terrible place to live, maybe they would want to stay in their own country. They ARE too many to be sustained, control is an illusion anyway so let Arpaio and Pruitts fight it out amongst themselves, because neither one can do much about it anyway.
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desertdiva wrote: Here's another one to chew on. Last night on channel 10 news they ran a story about 8 possible illegals being arrested outside Pruitts. Immigrant advocate Elias Bermudez looked into the cameras and said, THIS IS A DIRECT QUOTE, "Sheriff Joe has really overstepped his boundaries, he is not supposed to arrest undocumented people he is supposed to arrest criminals. ... WE ARE WAY TO MANY TO BE SUSTAINED AND CONTROLLED, (PAUSE) BY SHERIFF JOE." I don't know about you guys, but this sounds an awful lot like a threat to me. To see the interview log onto myfoxphoenix.com and query illegal immigrants, then click on Bermudez, Pruitts getting out of hand.
It's not a threat, it's a fact.
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Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 12:12 am |
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desertdiva wrote: . . . don't know about you guys, but this sounds an awful lot like a threat to me.
a veiled one at best.
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Posted: Mon Dec 3rd, 2007 02:43 pm |
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| Here's another one to chew on. Last night on channel 10 news they ran a story about 8 possible illegals being arrested outside Pruitts. Immigrant advocate Elias Bermudez looked into the cameras and said, THIS IS A DIRECT QUOTE, "Sheriff Joe has really overstepped his boundaries, he is not supposed to arrest undocumented people he is supposed to arrest criminals. ... WE ARE WAY TO MANY TO BE SUSTAINED AND CONTROLLED, (PAUSE) BY SHERIFF JOE." I don't know about you guys, but this sounds an awful lot like a threat to me. To see the interview log onto myfoxphoenix.com and query illegal immigrants, then click on Bermudez, Pruitts getting out of hand. Last edited on Mon Dec 3rd, 2007 02:48 pm by desertdiva
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