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Looks like 63% of Maricopa County voters said Arpaio is doing an excellent (28%) or good (35%) job, while 37% rate him poor or very poor.
County attorney rules sheriff's sweeps are legal. Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas has ruled Sheriff Joe Arpaio's recent string of crime-suppression operations is legal, as long as sheriff's deputies follow the department's policy.
Two big reason to say: Way to go Joe!!
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surprisemotherof2 wrote: I like Zupa Toscana at Olive Garden 
I somehow knew GEM would go against the flow...what's that saying, even a dead fish goes with the flow...onto the thread----ya see Arpaio cost us another $925,000 in two settlements? ...and the county is a hiring freeze.... When is enuf enuf?
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| Like listening to Dwiddle Dee and Dwiddle Dumber on acid!!
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GEM127
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| Only chicken noodle when I have a cold. And Tomato with grilled cheese sandwiches. LOL
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| I like Zupa Toscana at Olive Garden
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GEM127 wrote: Thank you, we finally agree SR.
Just the pointless to argue part. we actually agree on more than that...we agree on Bush and his Weapons of Mass Deception..we also might agree on soup...I like Fench Onion and Chicken Noodle..if you're into veggie soup, it probably means you're a nutjob, so I hope you don't disappoint me .
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Thank you, we finally agree SR.
Just the pointless to argue part.Last edited on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 02:32 pm by GEM127
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Sunny Surprise wrote: HOT NEWS
Truck carrying between 60 people crashes near Arizona City
Apr. 27, 2008 12 News
The Pinal County Sheriff's Office says a pickup truck carrying as many as 60 illegal immigrants crashed early Sunday morning near the town of Arizona City. Four of the occupants were dead at the scene. 27 others, airlifter to hospitals. The rest of the people in the truck fled the scene.
So far no arrests in connection with the accident. The driver of the truck fled the scene after the crash.
60 illegals in a 1/2 ton pickup. What did they think it was a bus?Guess you like paying for all that free medical care. All you liberals love paying for these 27 illegals.
Next they will sew the state for bad roads caused the accident.
whatever you say..pointless to argue with you.
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| That is so funny, and I'm sure they will find an attorney to file a law suit.
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HOT NEWS
Truck carrying between 60 people crashes near Arizona City
Apr. 27, 2008 12 News
The Pinal County Sheriff's Office says a pickup truck carrying as many as 60 illegal immigrants crashed early Sunday morning near the town of Arizona City. Four of the occupants were dead at the scene. 27 others, airlifter to hospitals. The rest of the people in the truck fled the scene.
So far no arrests in connection with the accident. The driver of the truck fled the scene after the crash.
60 illegals in a 1/2 ton pickup. What did they think it was a bus?Guess you like paying for all that free medical care. All you liberals love paying for these 27 illegals.
Next they will sew the state for bad roads caused the accident.
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GEM127
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| 20 million of them and $330 billion a year. Yes they are all mexicans.
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GEM127 wrote: jwillas wrote:
Sheriff Joke is such a piece of dung that I wouldn't be surprised if he had some illegals tending his garden for the piece of mind in knowing that he'd have some handy to arrest should a news van happen to drive by.
I have to ask?
1) Is it the fact that you do a lot of illegal things yourself and that is why you dislike the sheriff's department?
2) Are you someone who has had a stay with the tent master for a while and feel you were wronged in being there?
3) Do you hate all Law Enforcement?
4) Are you an Illegal Alien yourself?
Ok top comment is downright hilarious!!!!
Gem, I still dont think your a racist, your comments are pretty clear that illegals are the subject, so does that mean everyone else is thinking they are just mexicans???
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jwillas wrote:
Sheriff Joke is such a piece of dung that I wouldn't be surprised if he had some illegals tending his garden for the piece of mind in knowing that he'd have some handy to arrest should a news van happen to drive by.
I have to ask?
1) Is it the fact that you do a lot of illegal things yourself and that is why you dislike the sheriff's department?
2) Are you someone who has had a stay with the tent master for a while and feel you were wronged in being there?
3) Do you hate all Law Enforcement?
4) Are you an Illegal Alien yourself?
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I truly believe that each and all against what Sheriff Joe is doing is either somewhat criminal, illegal or jealous. It does NOT take brains to constantly complain about the good someone is doing if they are on the right side. So all of you who complain all the time, look in the mirror and see yourself. You are the ones with problems.
Better yet, move south of the border and see what the law there will do for you. You deserve what they will give you. And we will be rid of your complaining.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 02:51 am |
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| Sheriff Joke is such a piece of dung that I wouldn't be surprised if he had some illegals tending his garden for the piece of mind in knowing that he'd have some handy to arrest should a news van happen to drive by.
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You can call me whatever you like. If you are not here via a visa or are a U.S. Citizen then you are here ILLEGALLY. I also include anchor babies as an illegal. And at almost 20 million that are here illegally are mexicans. So the answer is yes I lump them all together.
What's your point?
Maybe Sheriff Joe and the Boys can't round-up all 20 million but at least they are trying to put a little dent in the ILLEGAL ALIEN population.
3 CHEERS for them. And may they be swift, safe and right on target. God Bless them all.
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jwillas wrote: LucifersLandlord wrote: GEM127 wrote: Please don't think I'm a racist! Just one who at peace with the mind and body and soul.
The Mayor of Tijuana drives a Cadillac Escalade 2007, and the Sheriff's car is a Hummer 2008.
Go figure. But I doubt very much of the crime rate in this country has anything to do with Illegal Aliens. I have to blame them for something.
I am curious how you could be a racist when illegals are mutli national and mutli racial individuals???
Unless, of course, your definition of 'Illegal Alien' is synonymous with 'Mexican'. OOOOOOOoooo Yup then that could be bad...
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LucifersLandlord wrote: GEM127 wrote: Please don't think I'm a racist! Just one who at peace with the mind and body and soul.
The Mayor of Tijuana drives a Cadillac Escalade 2007, and the Sheriff's car is a Hummer 2008.
Go figure. But I doubt very much of the crime rate in this country has anything to do with Illegal Aliens. I have to blame them for something.
I am curious how you could be a racist when illegals are mutli national and mutli racial individuals???
Unless, of course, your definition of 'Illegal Alien' is synonymous with 'Mexican'.
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GEM127 wrote: Please don't think I'm a racist! Just one who at peace with the mind and body and soul.
The Mayor of Tijuana drives a Cadillac Escalade 2007, and the Sheriff's car is a Hummer 2008.
Go figure. But I doubt very much of the crime rate in this country has anything to do with Illegal Aliens. I have to blame them for something.
I am curious how you could be a racist when illegals are mutli national and mutli racial individuals???
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Please don't think I'm a racist! Just one who at peace with the mind and body and soul.
The Mayor of Tijuana drives a Cadillac Escalade 2007, and the Sheriff's car is a Hummer 2008.
Go figure. But I doubt very much of the crime rate in this country has anything to do with Illegal Aliens. I have to blame them for something.
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GEM127 wrote: Very good article, But did you notice about 7 other articles about Illegal Immigrations. Could there be a relationship between a high crime rate and the influx of Illegals in the state?
NO WAY! You keep this up GEM127 we will call you a racist.
How is even possible that illegal immigration could be the root cause of our crime in Arizona? Why would illegal want to steal so many cars? I know they want to drive back to Mexico on the weekends.
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spincycle wrote: jwillas wrote: http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23209
puts AZ. recidivism at 67%. How much of the population of AZ. is in Maricopa Co.?
When I find the one I'm looking for, I'll let you know.
Sorry, but that article is using data from 1994..??.. The 67% was not for AZ, but for the entire country.
A large percentage of the crime being committed in Maricopa County is being committed in the City of Phoenix. That would fall under the leadership of Sanctuary City Commander, Mayor Philberto.
Sorry, but your correction is incorrect..the study began in 1994 and concluded in 1997. Nobody really knows what the general rate is in the county..different interest groups follow what's germain to them...juvies, mentally ill, drug users, etc. I think we can all be assured of one thing: if Arpaio had hard data supporting a decline in the overall recidivism, inbetween invading Hispanic communities and fighting with police administrators of other towns and cities, Arpaio would have, for sure, without doubt, cranked up his $400,000 per year Public Relations Department and he would have had yet another press conference to crow about it-----even if it were not an election year for him.
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jwillas wrote: http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23209
puts AZ. recidivism at 67%. How much of the population of AZ. is in Maricopa Co.?
When I find the one I'm looking for, I'll let you know.
Sorry, but that article is using data from 1994..??.. The 67% was not for AZ, but for the entire country.
A large percentage of the crime being committed in Maricopa County is being committed in the City of Phoenix. That would fall under the leadership of Sanctuary City Commander, Mayor Philberto.
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| Very good article, But did you notice about 7 other articles about Illegal Immigrations. Could there be a relationship between a high crime rate and the influx of Illegals in the state?
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http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23209
puts AZ. recidivism at 67%. How much of the population of AZ. is in Maricopa Co.?
When I find the one I'm looking for, I'll let you know.
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http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Phoenix&state=AZ
shows phoenix is up in and above the national average in EVERY catagory of violent crime
I'm still looking for the site that gives the numbers on recidivism but to the best of my recollection it was
70% - Phoenix
46% - National
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jwillas wrote:
because the recidivism rate is way up there with the crime rate. (Among the nation's worst)
Where did you find that info?
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razenkn wrote: He is certainly flamboyant, but also very effective. Doesn't matter to me how he gets it done, as long as he does.
I've never particularly cared for Joan Shafer and her politics, (The why is immaterial) however, she played an integral part of the council(s) that made this city what it is today and I personally think they did a pretty good job. So, my personal opinions notwithstanding, I've got to give credit where credit is due. Even if posthumously. That would also be the case with Sheriff Joke if he had, in fact, effectively accomplished his duties, but he has not. As Sheriff his job, in a nut shell, is to curb crime and deal with those that commit them. Let's see... the crime rate is higher than ever and evidently pink underwear isn't the answer because the recidivism rate is way up there with the crime rate. (Among the nation's worst) He's also cost the city over $41,000,000 in lawsuits with an enormous number still pending. He's also abused his power with regards to anyone whom he thinks has, or will, cross him (you can forget about a fair election.) But it did solve one problem, by far his most important, getting him on TV. Every decision he's made has revolved around that outcome and if something good also came from it, he'll be the first to get on camera and tell you. I'm pretty good at seeing both sides of a coin and when it comes to Arpaio, both sides are tails.
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Until people actually walk a mile in Sheriff Joe's shoes, I really don't think they have the knowledge or experience to make the judgements they are making on here. I wouldn't want his job. Why would anyone want to do that job if you actually enforce the laws on the books?
It is all too apparent because Sheriff Joe is an eeeevil Republican, then the left decides he can't possibly be doing a good job. Hate to beg to differ, he is awesome. He is certainly flamboyant, but also very effective. Doesn't matter to me how he gets it done, as long as he does.
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Why don't you take me up on the offer. It is a limited offer to all bleeding heart liberals. A one time deal.
I think you most have mistaking me for someone who cares.
They are sucking every tax paying U.S. Citizen to a cost of over $330 billion a year with all the benefits we give them. And the MCSO is the only law enforcement department doing anything about the problem.
Sheriff Joe and His Team do a fine job. It is really a terrible thought that all you and a lot of other people on here can say about him is bad.
No I don't hire any illegals to work for me whether it be at my home or for my company.
And it always becomes a soapbox for the citizens of this United States to have our voices heard. Whether you like it or not. I guess that is where the title comes from "Public Forums"
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GEM127 wrote: I don't hide my feelings when it comes to illegals aliens. It is very unfortunate that you love these illegal cockroaches so much. Are you willing to trade places with one?
All you have to do is give up your U. S. Citizenship and go live in Mexico and we will let one stay here in your place.
No ignorance or racism just a U. S. Citizen who is tired of all these illegal aliens taking our hard earned money.
And besides talking down at me, you still can't answer the problem we have with ILLEGALS ALIENS.
That's mighty kind of you and your authority to provide me such an option. First, this thread was about our scumbag sheriff. When did it become a discussion about illegal aliens? When that was the only soapbox you could find that was sturdy enough to climb atop. Second, to what money would you be referencing? Do you have one in your employ taking care of your yard? Third, where did you get the assumption that I love these illegal cockroaches? It's obvious that you used the same gift ascertaining that fact as you did determining Arpaio's value as a community leader. And finally, no ignorance or racism?!? I ALMOST fell for it.
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I don't hide my feelings when it comes to illegals aliens. It is very unfortunate that you love these illegal cockroaches so much. Are you willing to trade places with one?
All you have to do is give up your U. S. Citizenship and go live in Mexico and we will let one stay here in your place.
No ignorance or racism just a U. S. Citizen who is tired of all these illegal aliens taking our hard earned money.
And besides talking down at me, you still can't answer the problem we have with ILLEGALS ALIENS.Last edited on Thu Apr 24th, 2008 02:17 am by GEM127
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GEM127 wrote: Would someone please give SR a towel.
I wish we did live in the 19th century. Then I could kill me some illegal cockroaches. And nobody would even care.
Sorry you just can't come to terms with the idea that Sheriff Joe does the job we pay him to do. He's not doing what you bleeding heart liberals think he should do, but what the law tells him to do. He does a GREAT JOB and I think you better get use to him doing that type job for a long time to come yet.
Mayor Gordon should be shaking his hand and patting Joe on the back for taking a stand and doing the job that his police officers don't do.
I would be more then happy for anyone on his force to check my papers. Birth cert., D.L., S.S. card. Passport, what ever, it's all in order.
Sunny I love it. Just one more reason I read the post on this site.
Sent them all back.
Kill you some illegal cockroaches? At least now I know that your argument comes from a standpoint of not only ignorance but also with a healthy dose of bigotry and just the right amount of stupidity to make you a perfect match for Arpaio's arrogance. If you'd let me know sooner I wouldn't have wasted what little time I did attempting to intelligently correspond with you. One question though, who reads the posts to you?
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Well you still haven't stated how to fix the Illegal Aliens Problem. You have told us all over and over again how our Sheriff spends money. Now tell us how he should fix the problem?
This is a fact; If the illegals in this country were to be deported the crime rate would come down. They have no respect for others, they bring drugs into this country and think nothing of shooting people who they get upset with. And besides all that they SUCK OVER $330 BILLION DOLLARS OUT OF THE U.S. TAX PAYERS POCKETS.
So what is the answer? Please tell us.
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Old maxine wrote: Surprise mother, you are starting to sound more and more like sometimes rational. Neither one of you know what you are talking about. I am tired of hearing so much from both of you. Get your facts straight before you start typing.
What facts weren't straight??????
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Old maxine wrote: Surprise mother, you are starting to sound more and more like sometimes rational. Neither one of you know what you are talking about. I am tired of hearing so much from both of you. Get your facts straight before you start typing. If it annoys you, Old maxine, I think you might have other things to do which don't annoy you.
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blackjack wrote: Actually SR, I'm pretty sure sherrif joe would be happy to work with phoenix or any other city to solve the crime problems (one of which is illegal immigration). Unfortunately, phil gordon and most of the other cities have chosen to ignore the illegal immigration problem and that is the only reason sherrif joe stands out and is the subject of ridicule for trying to enforce this particular law (however distaseful) along with the many other laws for which he is responsible for enforcing. I'm interested in what Arpaio has said or done to cause you to be "pretty sure he would be happy to work with" other police agencies. He has consistantly demonstrated opposite behavior..you may have forgotten he closed the local substation for booking causing local police to drive all the way into Phoenix. This was supposedly to save money? Nobody believes that...not from the guy who spends our money like he's printing it....he also hasn't been notifying local PD's of pending sweeps...so explain, if you don't mind, where your confidence in Apraio's willingly to play well with others orginates.
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| Surprise mother, you are starting to sound more and more like sometimes rational. Neither one of you know what you are talking about. I am tired of hearing so much from both of you. Get your facts straight before you start typing.
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| Actually SR, I'm pretty sure sherrif joe would be happy to work with phoenix or any other city to solve the crime problems (one of which is illegal immigration). Unfortunately, phil gordon and most of the other cities have chosen to ignore the illegal immigration problem and that is the only reason sherrif joe stands out and is the subject of ridicule for trying to enforce this particular law (however distaseful) along with the many other laws for which he is responsible for enforcing.
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GEM127 wrote: So what point are you trying to make? That Sheriff Joe didn't say what you thought he should have said. And what does that have to do with people filing frivolous lawsuit for everything and anything under the sun?
Now I will ask again, how would you like the Sheriff's Department to act on illegal aliens in this state? Maybe we should just turn our backs on them, or just give them amnesty like a lot of the politicians want to do. It seems we have a problem with Illegals in this country and all anyone can do is complain about the way the only law enforcement agency that is doing something about it.
My point is that I believe the Sheriff of the county which contains the 5th largest city in the nation should be respectful of his surroundings and not be so concerned about HIS personal issues. It's always about HIS appearance. Maybe that is why there are so many lawsuits, maybe it's because he doesn't give a hoot about EVERYONE'S rights, just about his appearance in the news media.
Yes, we have a huge illegal immigrant problem. We also have huge drug problems, domestic violence, burglaries, etc. Did I mention that Phx is the 5th largest city in the US??? Yeah, unfortunately crime comes with size. I don't pretend to have the answers to crime or criminals but I also can't pretend that ONLY the CRIMINALS are being mistreated by the sheriff. I feel the best way to handle crime would be for city officials and police chiefs/sheriff work TOGETHER.
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So what point are you trying to make? That Sheriff Joe didn't say what you thought he should have said. And what does that have to do with people filing frivolous lawsuit for everything and anything under the sun?
Now I will ask again, how would you like the Sheriff's Department to act on illegal aliens in this state? Maybe we should just turn our backs on them, or just give them amnesty like a lot of the politicians want to do. It seems we have a problem with Illegals in this country and all anyone can do is complain about the way the only law enforcement agency that is doing something about it.
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GEM127 wrote: And just to prove that fact, here is a little story.
In 1996 Conrail had a " training exercise " in the railroad yards in Phila PA. For any and all Emergency personal. A few RR cars were turned over and people had make believe injuries. There were 6 lawsuits filed against Conrail for injuries people had received from being in that train wreck. The case went to court and the judge laughed the lawyers right out of court. All Conrail's lawyers had to do is tell the judge what the date and time of the exercise happened and case dismissed.
You talk like Sheriff Joe isn't professional, why because he is enforcing the laws and the other law enforcement agencies are not, so he is the one who is unprofessional?
Great--I love stories. I have a train story for you too! In 1995 there was a train derailment near Tonopah, everyone suspected sabotage since this was only 5 months after the OK bombing. The FBI and MCSO arrived at the scene. There were 268 people aboard this train, over 100 people were injured and 1 crew member died from the derailment. I was glued to the news. I couldn't believe this terrible thing was happening right here in AZ. As I watched the news and awaited any information on this travesty, it happened. The FBI and Sheriff Arpaio were gathered around the podium for the press conference. FBI got up and did the standard "don't have any suspects, it's a terrible thing, etc.". Here goes Sheriff Joe up to the mike for his turn to explain the horror. He gets up and the first words that come out of his mouth are something similar to, "I'm wearing a suit and noone else is. I thought you had to dress up for this thing." Thank you Sheriff Joe for representing us, the state of AZ, in such a tragic circumstance to an international audience. Your concern for the public is remarkable.
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 02:01 pm |
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sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: With each criminal off the streets it is at least one less crime that won't be committed!!
You're sooo right, Cindysue...those dangerous ppl with broken turn signals are finally locked up!! I will sleep soooo much better tonight....those roundups by Uncle Joe were certainly worth the tens of thousands it costs us...those boys need another vacation in Hondurous...get your checkbook out.
I am so happy that you can sleep well, that is what it is all about. I don't have a problem opening up my checkbook as long as Sheriff Joe keeps the criminals off the streets.
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 01:52 pm |
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Well why don't you tell us all as to why the other Law Enforcement agencies of this state don't uphold the law in which the voting public of this state voted for and won?
Yes maybe the man likes the camera and yes he might get a rightful lawsuit filed against him now and then. Most of the lawsuits filed against him are nothing but jokes. You can find a lawyer to file a lawsuit for just about anything at anytime. And just to prove that fact, here is a little story.
In 1996 Conrail had a " training exercise " in the railroad yards in Phila PA. For any and all Emergency personal. A few RR cars were turned over and people had make believe injuries. There were 6 lawsuits filed against Conrail for injuries people had received from being in that train wreck. The case went to court and the judge laughed the lawyers right out of court. All Conrail's lawyers had to do is tell the judge what the date and time of the exercise happened and case dismissed.
You talk like Sheriff Joe isn't professional, why because he is enforcing the laws and the other law enforcement agencies are not, so he is the one who is unprofessional? He is doing what the people of this state and country want done with illegals and you think he is wrong!
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| You don't get it. For almost every one of those lawsuits there is an INNOCENT victim. And there are countless more who haven't persued litigation. And who among us feels that they are in a position to pass judgement? Let's see... DUI gets a tent stake upside the head, possesion of drugs gets no medical treatment, assault gets no food... "Let he who is without sin be the one to cast the first stone". I guess we could take the Timothy McVeigh approach and dismiss them as "collateral damage". Until it happens to you, that is. Arpaio is a joke. To 'hear' you say he's doing what the other agencies aren't and put him on a pedestal would be laughable were it not so pathetic. His humans-rights record is as atrocious as that of China's. Which brings us to his single greatest accomplishment; having bamboozled his proponents so utterly and thoroughly. If you Arpaio advocates were to do a little homework you would be shocked to the point of disbelief that he has not only done the things he's done but actually GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT! But don't get your hopes up, I'm not holding my breath.
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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 04:12 am |
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cindisue_g wrote: With each criminal off the streets it is at least one less crime that won't be committed!!
You're sooo right, Cindysue...those dangerous ppl with broken turn signals are finally locked up!! I will sleep soooo much better tonight....those roundups by Uncle Joe were certainly worth the tens of thousands it costs us...those boys need another vacation in Hondurous...get your checkbook out.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 10:30 pm |
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Sheriff Joe is doing what all those other great law enforcement agencies you have mentioned aren't doing. That is what we pay him to do. That is why people like him so much. He does what we want him to do. You might not like that fact, but really no one cares.
You say Sheriff Joe doesn't work with other law enforcement agencies, since when does it say in the law that we all voted for, mind you. That we can only detain and deport any illegal who comes up to a law enforcement officer and turns himself in? I don't remember that being part of the law I voted for. That is the way most law enforcement agencies read it.
Here is a nation sucking this nation dry with all the BS they can shovel and here you are standing on the side lines complaining about it, but let's not hurt anyones feelings. Maybe it just go away. Get real, it's not going away and it will only be getting worse. They suck $330 billion a year.
And really you come on here campaigning for the person who you want to have as Sheriff in this county. That's all you are doing, it has nothing to do with the problem of illegal aliens at all.
Why won't all the law enforcement agencies in the state enforce the law regarding illegal aliens? The people of this state and a lot of other states have said deport them. They don't really care how, just do it.
I know my work load has grown since Sheriff Joe has started working in the right direction of illegals.
Now I know some will read between the lines or pick out a few choice words and try to get my feathers ruffled but I am just stating what all U.S. citizens want. Not the chosen few. If you are not part of the solution, you must be part of the problem.
And by the way Mayor Phil Gordon is a spineless jellyfish. He is the one who is looking to please all the people and to keep the officers of Phx. and surrounding communities from doing their jobs All this just for his voting public. This confrontation between Sheriff Joe and Phil Gordon will be something all will remember at the Mayor's try for re-election. And I will be sure to recall it to election committee. Just in case someone might forget.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 09:21 pm |
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| With each criminal off the streets it is at least one less crime that won't be committed!!
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 08:43 pm |
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cindisue_g wrote: We approve because he gets results.
Way to go Joe!
To exactly which results are you refering? It can't be the low crime rate because it's not. Phoenix is and has been a national leader when it comes to recitivism. How's THIS for results:
New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston collectively housed more than 61,000 inmates per day last year. From 2004 through November of this year, these same county jails had a combined 43 prison-conditions lawsuits filed against them in federal courts.
In the very same three-year time frame, despite housing a mere 9,200 prisoners per day, Sheriff Arpaio was the target of a staggering 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts.
With a fraction of the inmate population, Arpaio has had 50 times as many lawsuits as the New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined.
Way to go, Joe!
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Posted: Tue Apr 22nd, 2008 07:28 pm |
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surprisemotherof2 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: surprisemotherof2, then what is the answer. What do you say to a friend of my that got rear ended (the man was illegal, had no insurance, had no driver's license) and the Surprise police department let him walk away. Now my friend has to pay the deductible and mine, yours and her insurance premiums will go up...why because people are not held accountable....
I'm not sure what the answer is.... I feel terrible for your friend, it's not fair for that to happen and it's not right either. I don't want illegals here any more than you. There just has to be a better way. "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was established in March 2003 as the largest investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security. ICE is comprised of five integrated divisions that form a 21st century law enforcement agency with broad responsibilities for a number of key homeland security priorities. " (direct from thier website) I don't feel it is the job of local police to conquer a nation wide problem. I think it is appropriate for federal to handle this. Money has to be allocated for extra officers to be hired to hold/deliver illegals to ICE. I don't think the answer to the nation's illegal problem is through running people over because of their skin color--- if the sheriff started harassing all white people because there was a problem of illegal whites in the country, people would go crazy mad! Also, the sheriff shouldn't be trying to take charge of all the cities-- he should be working TOGETHER with the heads of the cities in cooperation to end these problems. I used to be a supporter of Joe's, tough sheriff taking away gym equipment from prisons, etc, but in the last couple of years he seems to have lost all sense of humanity and fairness. Yes, if you do the time you do the time. But Joe is not so smart or powerful that he can treat people with distaste because they have a different ethnicity than his.
Congrats for seeing the light...Arpaio would have us all believe he is the only law enforcement administrator doing his job...He insults his peers nationwide, he insults the citizens, particularly those who disagree with him, and he needs to be replaced and the sooner the better...the problem is way too many ppl think that it's impossible to run a dept efficiently, without attracting lawsuits like a magnet and without mismanging county resources and still be an effective police leader who works well with the other departments and civic leaders..Arizona is the laughing stock of the US thanks to Joe..check out the recent NY Times article...What I do not understand is that a lot of ppl on this board go and on about how thy like what they think are positive results...I have not seen one comment, other than from mama, expressing concern about the over spending and mismgt issues..the same people who tolerate it from the Sheriff's office were demanding a recall when the city council was involved in fiscal irresponsibility...anyway..Phil Gordon rocks...he is a man of honor and not intimidated byt the celebrity sheriff.
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