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cindisue_g wrote: I for one am glad that Sheriff Joe has taken the bull by the horns. Left up to the Federal or City Governments, we will be over run with illegal immigrants. If we were over run with illegal immigrants from Norway, Sweden, Finland, England, I wouldn't have a problem being pulled over and being asked for my identification. Why, because I have nothing to hide. It could be worse, in some countries that I have traveled to, if you do not have your identification card showing that you are a citizen, you are put in jail - jails I might add that make Sheriff Joe's look like a country club.
We're not in other countries---we're in America and you're not allowed to treat anyone different than someone else just because of the color of their skin. It's not a matter of something to hide, it's a matter that it is against the law to ask for identification because of skin color....
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surprisemotherof2 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: surprisemotherof2, then what is the answer. What do you say to a friend of my that got rear ended (the man was illegal, had no insurance, had no driver's license) and the Surprise police department let him walk away. Now my friend has to pay the deductible and mine, yours and her insurance premiums will go up...why because people are not held accountable....
I'm not sure what the answer is.... I feel terrible for your friend, it's not fair for that to happen and it's not right either. I don't want illegals here any more than you. There just has to be a better way. "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was established in March 2003 as the largest investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security. ICE is comprised of five integrated divisions that form a 21st century law enforcement agency with broad responsibilities for a number of key homeland security priorities. " (direct from thier website) I don't feel it is the job of local police to conquer a nation wide problem. I think it is appropriate for federal to handle this. Money has to be allocated for extra officers to be hired to hold/deliver illegals to ICE. I don't think the answer to the nation's illegal problem is through running people over because of their skin color--- if the sheriff started harassing all white people because there was a problem of illegal whites in the country, people would go crazy mad! Also, the sheriff shouldn't be trying to take charge of all the cities-- he should be working TOGETHER with the heads of the cities in cooperation to end these problems. I used to be a supporter of Joe's, tough sheriff taking away gym equipment from prisons, etc, but in the last couple of years he seems to have lost all sense of humanity and fairness. Yes, if you do the time you do the time. But Joe is not so smart or powerful that he can treat people with distaste because they have a different ethnicity than his.
I for one am glad that Sheriff Joe has taken the bull by the horns. Left up to the Federal or City Governments, we will be over run with illegal immigrants. If we were over run with illegal immigrants from Norway, Sweden, Finland, England, I wouldn't have a problem being pulled over and being asked for my identification. Why, because I have nothing to hide. It could be worse, in some countries that I have traveled to, if you do not have your identification card showing that you are a citizen, you are put in jail - jails I might add that make Sheriff Joe's look like a country club.
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cindisue_g wrote: surprisemotherof2, then what is the answer. What do you say to a friend of my that got rear ended (the man was illegal, had no insurance, had no driver's license) and the Surprise police department let him walk away. Now my friend has to pay the deductible and mine, yours and her insurance premiums will go up...why because people are not held accountable....
I'm not sure what the answer is.... I feel terrible for your friend, it's not fair for that to happen and it's not right either. I don't want illegals here any more than you. There just has to be a better way. "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was established in March 2003 as the largest investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security. ICE is comprised of five integrated divisions that form a 21st century law enforcement agency with broad responsibilities for a number of key homeland security priorities. " (direct from thier website) I don't feel it is the job of local police to conquer a nation wide problem. I think it is appropriate for federal to handle this. Money has to be allocated for extra officers to be hired to hold/deliver illegals to ICE. I don't think the answer to the nation's illegal problem is through running people over because of their skin color--- if the sheriff started harassing all white people because there was a problem of illegal whites in the country, people would go crazy mad! Also, the sheriff shouldn't be trying to take charge of all the cities-- he should be working TOGETHER with the heads of the cities in cooperation to end these problems. I used to be a supporter of Joe's, tough sheriff taking away gym equipment from prisons, etc, but in the last couple of years he seems to have lost all sense of humanity and fairness. Yes, if you do the time you do the time. But Joe is not so smart or powerful that he can treat people with distaste because they have a different ethnicity than his.
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surprisemotherof2, then what is the answer. What do you say to a friend of my that got rear ended (the man was illegal, had no insurance, had no driver's license) and the Surprise police department let him walk away. Now my friend has to pay the deductible and mine, yours and her insurance premiums will go up...why because people are not held accountable.
I have no problem with anyone coming here, as long as they do it legally. And if they don't, I have no problem with Sheriff Joe rounding them up and shipping them back. They can then stand in line (like all of our forefathers did) and wait their turn to come her legally.
Way to go Sheriff Joe.
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surprisemotherof2 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: I hear sheriff Joe is pulling out of Guadeloupe in 180 days - I've already sent my email to ask that they transfer the deputies to Surprise - we need Sheriff Joe's force in Surprise.
Although I understand how everyone is upset about illegal immigrants---me too! I don't agree with a lot of what the Sheriff does. He doesn't work with the city or city police and totally disrespects all of them. By not working together, he puts his officers at risk, the city's officers and the surrounding community. I'm happy Mayor Gordon has asked the FBI to investigate the sheriff. Regardless on whether people approve or disapprove of his tactics (for the record, I disagree with rounding people up because of the color of their skin), Sheriff Joe doesn't show any professionalism. I don't want them coming out to Surprise and doing his roundups simply because I don't want our officers lives to be put at risk because the Sheriff wants to show how tough he is. I also think it is important to have a good, solid relationship with ALL citizens of Surprise. I think MCSO did a good job while they were in El Mirage but their intention was to patrol the city, not to do the roundups. I respect and appreciate ALL officers and would like a sheriff who does also. Sheriff Joe has turned into a mean, old man just out to get his bad guys and he doesn't care what happens to anyone else in the process, as long as he got his camera shot! jwillas and surprisemotherof2 -- I echo SR -- Welcome!
Well Gem, yeah, the Sun City folks do love Joe -- he sucks up extremely well to them according to a wonderful friend of mine who is also a SC gal and does not like Joe's tactics either. And don't forget, except for SCG, the other Sun Cities are county, not city; they're probably paranoid up to their necks he's going to arrest them.
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cindisue_g wrote: I hear sheriff Joe is pulling out of Guadeloupe in 180 days - I've already sent my email to ask that they transfer the deputies to Surprise - we need Sheriff Joe's force in Surprise.
Although I understand how everyone is upset about illegal immigrants---me too! I don't agree with a lot of what the Sheriff does. He doesn't work with the city or city police and totally disrespects all of them. By not working together, he puts his officers at risk, the city's officers and the surrounding community. I'm happy Mayor Gordon has asked the FBI to investigate the sheriff. Regardless on whether people approve or disapprove of his tactics (for the record, I disagree with rounding people up because of the color of their skin), Sheriff Joe doesn't show any professionalism. I don't want them coming out to Surprise and doing his roundups simply because I don't want our officers lives to be put at risk because the Sheriff wants to show how tough he is. I also think it is important to have a good, solid relationship with ALL citizens of Surprise. I think MCSO did a good job while they were in El Mirage but their intention was to patrol the city, not to do the roundups. I respect and appreciate ALL officers and would like a sheriff who does also. Sheriff Joe has turned into a mean, old man just out to get his bad guys and he doesn't care what happens to anyone else in the process, as long as he got his camera shot!
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The Sheriff's Posse has spoken!Sigh...the last four letters of emoticon is icon...get it? ..secondly, don't even think of threatening me if you want to continue to be able to participate on this boards..if you can't take the heat, you know the rest of it.....and, it appears you're in the Posse..that explains it...and if you're in the Posse, you don't live in Surprise probably...so you're on our Surprise board just to annoy?
I never threaten you, I told a fact. You keep your commits to yourself, don't bring me into your writings.
You don't scare me with your words of hatred. I have meet your kind before and you always turn out to be full of hot air.
I can post on any thread here and to bad if you don't like it. there is nothing that says different.
And you can believe what ever you want when it comes to where I live.
You are just so bitter with the great job Sheriff Joe is doing! There is no tell what someone in your state of mind might do. You seem to have a problem with the people who do good work and like the people who just ride the fence.
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We approve because he gets results.
Way to go Joe!
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jwillas wrote: I haven't had the opportunity to even come close to reading the entire thread but I've certainly got an opinion on the topic. What people seem to forget is that every person incarcerated (except those returning for court purposes) housed outside of tent city HAS YET TO BE FOUND GUILTY! The biggest advocates of Joe Arpaio toot the horn that they're criminals and deserve what they get for breaking the law yet 95% of the people to which they refer HAVEN'T BEEN FOUND GUILTY of anything. They refer to laws and law breakers yet fail to adhere to one of the oldest laws of the land, that being innocent until proven guilty. I've got a friend who was incarcerated in the county jail. He was found not guilty of the charges against him and released but not before receiving a staph infection that cost him his arm, and almost his life! His pleas for medical assistance were answered with a visit to The Hole. His is one of the myriad lawsuits pending against the County of Maricopa courtesy of Arpaio and his egocentric, sadistic, camera-chasing agenda. He is, in my opinion, the biggest crook in the county. And to all of those who staunchly support that ego-maniacal piece of filth, you had better just hope that it's not you or one of yours that ends up as his guest. And if you think it can't happen to you, I've got a one-armed friend who would beg to differ with you. Welcome!!! Mamazoid and I are among the very few on the board who have taken the position that we need a professional administrator as Sheriff v. a publicity seeking politician pandering to the right wing masses to get re-elected...even if ppl approve of Arpaio's results, which I don't, I do not understand how they can tolerate the mismgt of the office in terms of over budget expenses, vacations for the staff in Hondurous, $44 million in lost litigation and settlements...if the Governor was this kind of an administrator, she'd have been impeached.
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| I haven't had the opportunity to even come close to reading the entire thread but I've certainly got an opinion on the topic. What people seem to forget is that every person incarcerated (except those returning for court purposes) housed outside of tent city HAS YET TO BE FOUND GUILTY! The biggest advocates of Joe Arpaio toot the horn that they're criminals and deserve what they get for breaking the law yet 95% of the people to which they refer HAVEN'T BEEN FOUND GUILTY of anything. They refer to laws and law breakers yet fail to adhere to one of the oldest laws of the land, that being innocent until proven guilty. I've got a friend who was incarcerated in the county jail. He was found not guilty of the charges against him and released but not before receiving a staph infection that cost him his arm, and almost his life! His pleas for medical assistance were answered with a visit to The Hole. His is one of the myriad lawsuits pending against the County of Maricopa courtesy of Arpaio and his egocentric, sadistic, camera-chasing agenda. He is, in my opinion, the biggest crook in the county. And to all of those who staunchly support that ego-maniacal piece of filth, you had better just hope that it's not you or one of yours that ends up as his guest. And if you think it can't happen to you, I've got a one-armed friend who would beg to differ with you.
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GEM127 wrote: sometimes rational wrote:
Mamazoyd wrote: GEM127 wrote: 
No, no///I think he found his nitche..icons!
They are emoticons in the first place. SR.
And I told you before, You really don't want to have a conflict with me. You really wouldn't like me when I get angry. So you just keep your comment's to yourself, and I will curb my tongue.
I have spoken to some of the people in the Sun City Communities and they all love Sheriff Joe. They could care less about any lawsuits. There is nothing but LOVE for Sheriff Joe and his Deputies.
The Sheriff's Posse has spoken! Sigh...the last four letters of emoticon is icon...get it? ..secondly, don't even think of threatening me if you want to continue to be able to participate on this boards..if you can't take the heat, you know the rest of it.....and, it appears you're in the Posse..that explains it...and if you're in the Posse, you don't live in Surprise probably...so you're on our Surprise board just to annoy?
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sometimes rational wrote:
Mamazoyd wrote: GEM127 wrote:
No, no///I think he found his nitche..icons!
They are emoticons in the first place. SR.
And I told you before, You really don't want to have a conflict with me. You really wouldn't like me when I get angry. So you just keep your comment's to yourself, and I will curb my tongue.
I have spoken to some of the people in the Sun City Communities and they all love Sheriff Joe. They could care less about any lawsuits. There is nothing but LOVE for Sheriff Joe and his Deputies.
The Sheriff's Posse has spoken!
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| Well SR, you back O'BAAAAMA, so it's no SURPRISE that you would be backing another liar, Lying Ms. Piggy from Guadalupe.
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Old maxine wrote: Something rational, take a break......................
When Joe does, I will.
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| Something rational, take a break......................
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spincycle wrote: It should be fun to see if and when Philberto's officers (Phoenix PD) take over police services in Guadalupe. I'm sure there will be a special order forbidding his officers from performing any proactive enforcement. The order will probably state that officers shall respond to calls for service only.
The Guadalupe mayor's lying and crying is not only embarrassing, it's DESPICABLE! No---Arpaio's screaming at her while on camera is despicable...Guess he has to pimp his book some more...most dangerous place in the world is not Iraq..it's getting between a TV camera and Joe Arpaio.
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It should be fun to see if and when Philberto's officers (Phoenix PD) take over police services in Guadalupe. I'm sure there will be a special order forbidding his officers from performing any proactive enforcement. The order will probably state that officers shall respond to calls for service only.
The Guadalupe mayor's lying and crying is not only embarrassing, it's DESPICABLE!
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| I hear sheriff Joe is pulling out of Guadeloupe in 180 days - I've already sent my email to ask that they transfer the deputies to Surprise - we need Sheriff Joe's force in Surprise. Last edited on Mon Apr 21st, 2008 04:02 pm by cindisue_g
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Mamazoyd wrote: GEM127 wrote:
No, no///I think he found his nitche..icons!
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sometimes rational wrote:
GEM127 wrote: Let's try to act grown up//have you ever seen a grounds worker at SCG who was not Hispanic in appearance?
So I should try to act grown up. The man happened to be black, not hispanic at all! GEM, I really think you were raised in a test tube..Okay, blacks may be Hispanic..Hispanics may be black..they are not mutually exclusive categories.
You are as much of a racist as you think I am. You are a racial profiler, Just like the kind of person you accuse Sheriff Joe of being.
Gee that is so funny! I can wait to tell the kids on the play ground this tomorrow. They are going to laugh so hard.
Maybe you should look in the mirror once in a while. Your beliefs are just like everyones but you seem to think you are above everyone else.
Do you have anymore illogical reasoning on this subject?
And I won't stoop to your form of name calling. You really won't like it if I did.
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GEM127 wrote: Let's try to act grown up//have you ever seen a grounds worker at SCG who was not Hispanic in appearance?
So I should try to act grown up. The man happened to be black, not hispanic at all! GEM, I really think you were raised in a test tube..Okay, blacks may be Hispanic..Hispanics may be black..they are not mutually exclusive categories.
You are as much of a racist as you think I am. You are a racial profiler, Just like the kind of person you accuse Sheriff Joe of being.
Gee that is so funny! I can wait to tell the kids on the play ground this tomorrow. They are going to laugh so hard.
Maybe you should look in the mirror once in a while. Your beliefs are just like everyones but you seem to think you are above everyone else.
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Let's try to act grown up//have you ever seen a grounds worker at SCG who was not Hispanic in appearance?
So I should try to act grown up. The man happened to be black, not hispanic at all!
You are as much of a racist as you think I am. You are a racial profiler, Just like the kind of person you accuse Sheriff Joe of being.
Gee that is so funny! I can wait to tell the kids on the play ground this tomorrow. They are going to laugh so hard.
Maybe you should look in the mirror once in a while. Your beliefs are just like everyones but you seem to think you are above everyone else.
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GEM127 wrote: So lets me try to get this right.
I said I was working out at Sun City Grand and one of the golfers didn't like the fact that the grounds crew was there cutting the grass.
Now you said if it was Sheriff Joe he would have been deported.
Not once did I ever say he was hispanic. You presumed that he was hispanic because of that type of work.
Talk about racial profiling, you racial profile people because of the type job they have.
Let's try to act grown up//have you ever seen a grounds worker at SCG who was not Hispanic in appearance?
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So lets me try to get this right.
I said I was working out at Sun City Grand and one of the golfers didn't like the fact that the grounds crew was there cutting the grass.
Now you said if it was Sheriff Joe he would have been deported.
Not once did I ever say he was hispanic. You presumed that he was hispanic because of that type of work.
Talk about racial profiling, you racial profile people because of the type job they have.
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Wow, GEM. TOUCHE!!! I'm impressed! 
Don't be. The guy need not be an illegal immigrant to get Arpaio's attention ..only Hispanic in appearance. Guess you're assuming Hispanics are all illegal..what else is new in your thought process.
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Wow, GEM. TOUCHE!!! I'm impressed!
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Same thing over and over and over! You are presuming that the grounds crew were illegal aliens. Wrong.
First off, Places like Sun City, Sun City West and Sun City Grand all had to fire any undocumented people who worked for them when the new law was passed.
So now who is racial profiling?
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GEM127 wrote: Some people on this blog came to mind today. I was doing a job in Sun City Grand and on the golf course they have a staging area for the golfers. They can practice putting etc. while they wait to be called for their turn on the course.
Well a ground crew started to cut the grass and the few golfers that were there stopped to let the guys do their job. When one golfer came up and started to ask the grounds crew to come back another time. So I watched and they finished cutting the area and then left.
I tried to figure out what he wanted them to do. He complained that they cut the grass, he complained when they cut the grass, he complained that the grass was to long before they cut it.
I think he complained just to complain. If this sounds like someone you might be like, just sit back and take a deep breath. Life's to short to sweat all the little stuff.
considering the thread this is, it must have been Arpaio..the guy is lucky he didn't deport him/
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Some people on this blog came to mind today. I was doing a job in Sun City Grand and on the golf course they have a staging area for the golfers. They can practice putting etc. while they wait to be called for their turn on the course.
Well a ground crew started to cut the grass and the few golfers that were there stopped to let the guys do their job. When one golfer came up and started to ask the grounds crew to come back another time. So I watched and they finished cutting the area and then left.
I tried to figure out what he wanted them to do. He complained that they cut the grass, he complained when they cut the grass, he complained that the grass was to long before they cut it.
I think he complained just to complain. If this sounds like someone you might be like, just sit back and take a deep breath. Life's to short to sweat all the little stuff.
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Last week, two Yavapai jail officers completed federal training to enforce immigration laws. But Yavapai Sheriff Steve Waugh told an Arizona Republic reporter that he was not interested in enforcing routine immigration violations. Rather, the two officers would identify and process for possible deportation of foreign-born individuals booked into the Yavapai County jail after they have been accused of crimes. Source: AZR
Taking a page from Sheriff Joe's playbook?
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Mamazoyd wrote: I don't know which sounds more ridiculous, this statement:
I really believe that most of you who post against Joe is jealous of what he has done.
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The only people that want Sherriff Joe gone is the people who has some criminal problems in their life.
Statements made with that much intelligence follow in the footsteps of those about people not liking Obama because they must be from Poland, or not liking Hillary because she's been there before, or not liking McCain because he's married to Cindy. I mean, come on people, do you honestly think those of us against Joe are jealous criminals? I'm sure the deputies living out here will love to hear that. Wait, don't answer that question, I need to rationalize who I'm dealing with here...
It is a toss up, Mama as to which comment is dumber...don't waste too much energy tho trying to figure it out...I'm sure we can depend on one of our more favored posters to come up with something even dumber still.
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I don't know which sounds more ridiculous, this statement:
I really believe that most of you who post against Joe is jealous of what he has done.
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The only people that want Sherriff Joe gone is the people who has some criminal problems in their life.
Statements made with that much intelligence follow in the footsteps of those about people not liking Obama because they must be from Poland, or not liking Hillary because she's been there before, or not liking McCain because he's married to Cindy. I mean, come on people, do you honestly think those of us against Joe are jealous criminals? I'm sure the deputies living out here will love to hear that. Wait, don't answer that question, I need to rationalize who I'm dealing with here...
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I think maybe Mayor Gordon should start running his City instead of worrying about what Sheriff Joe is doing.
I am willing to pay $100.00 more a year in county taxes so Sheriff Joe can continue his GREAT CAMPAIGN to fight the injustice that is going on in this state and country. It's just a shame that some people feel that all those ILLEGALS should be here.
I really don't care one way or the other how they leave. I just want them to leave.
Maybe we could get a really big can of bug spray! It would only effect ILLEGAL ALIENS.
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Sheriff Joe gets the job done. How, where and why he spends the money that is allotted to him, he gets the job done. If you didn't have Sheriff Joe this county would be call little MEXICO. Come on up, everything is FREE for the illegals. Don't have to pay for health care or speak the American language.
I really believe that most of you who post against Joe is jealous of what he has done.
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| You know...I'm sure that the county could use the 400,000.00+ tax dollars he uses for his pr staff every year. We need real law enforcement, not a publicity hound.
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| The mayor is a wuss.
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deuce wrote: Arpario seems to manage to keep his name in the news . . . positively or negatively. His PR people couldn't do a better job. He has a following that is only enhanced by all the publicity. He thrives on the notoriety as do his supporters. You may not approve of his tactics, but lots of people do and they vote.
The only thing Arpaio manages well is to stay in the news..The fact that his PR ppl do their job is irrelevent to the controversy surrounding him...and, personally, I'd rather have my tax dollars used productively v. on a fat PR staff....how anyone can say his management skills and use of resources are appropriate is beyond me...then again, I'm not the travel agent which booked his staff on those vacations to Hondurous.Last edited on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 06:15 am by
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| Maybe Joe will sue Chicken Gordon for malfeasense in office? Someone should. Gordon is using the mayor of San Fransico In a "SISTER CITY" partner to protect illegals. The main exception occurs when a citizen identifies a drop house and police command is forced to act. How about the Phoenix city council investigating Gordon, using the police report on illegal crime on the news a few days ago as an entry point?
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SR ;
Not a hissy fit.
You repeat and repeat the same thing over and over and over! And then I put in something that you didn't really read. Or if you did read it you didn't understand. And you make a wise commit about me posting something twice.
Maybe you should go back and read your repetitious posts.
Maybe if you could find some time to make light of some of these posts once in a while, you might there is some humor in this world. I personally get a big kick out what is said on most of the posts. But I am able to see humor, instead of always finding fault.
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Arpario seems to manage to keep his name in the news . . . positively or negatively. His PR people couldn't do a better job. He has a following that is only enhanced by all the publicity. He thrives on the notoriety as do his supporters. You may not approve of his tactics, but lots of people do and they vote.
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Mamazoyd wrote: SR said:
So the only ppl 'qualified' to understand that Arpaio was been abusing his position, and mismanaging his department is another cop? I think not..and if it were true, there are plenty of real cops out there who are complaining about Arpaio as much as I am...I don't know why you don't think Arpaio is in a political postition...how do you think he got it-a divine appointment??
You're right SR. We have Joe's deputies around here who don't like how he does his thing and we have former deputies who'd love to go back into it but with a different sheriff. And as I stated before, there were plenty of current and formers and spouses who showed up at the Rep. hdqtrs in 2004 who had plenty of negatives about Joe.
It just gets worse and worse with Arpaio, doesn't it?
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cindisue_g wrote: Sometimes rational, what person in a political arena is not out for publicity to get their name out there and to get people to hear what they have done. Every democrat and republican out there does it. Look what Mayor Shafer did. If anyone wins against Sheriff Joe, don't kid yourself they are going to do the same thing if you like it or not.
Sorry. You missed the point...GEM was implying Arpaio is not in a political appointment..I countered: how does one run for public office without being a politician? Then GEM had a hissy fit. What Mama and I agree on is that there is no need to have an elected sheriff. Treat the Sheriff of each county like any other civil service department head and appoint him (or her)...If Arpaio worked for any corporation in business and: cost his company more than $44 million in lawsuits; alienated many other 'department heads' ie police chiefs; sent his staff to Hondurous without a demonstrated benefit to the corporation; misallocated resources; and cost his company untold goodwill and complaints...what company would keep a guy like that? None I ever worked for.Last edited on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 06:16 am by
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SR said:
So the only ppl 'qualified' to understand that Arpaio was been abusing his position, and mismanaging his department is another cop? I think not..and if it were true, there are plenty of real cops out there who are complaining about Arpaio as much as I am...I don't know why you don't think Arpaio is in a political postition...how do you think he got it-a divine appointment??
You're right SR. We have Joe's deputies around here who don't like how he does his thing and we have former deputies who'd love to go back into it but with a different sheriff. And as I stated before, there were plenty of current and formers and spouses who showed up at the Rep. hdqtrs in 2004 who had plenty of negatives about Joe.
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| Sometimes rational, what person in a political arena is not out for publicity to get their name out there and to get people to hear what they have done. Every democrat and republican out there does it. Look what Mayor Shafer did. If anyone wins against Sheriff Joe, don't kid yourself they are going to do the same thing if you like it or not.
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SR
YOU ARE RIGHT!
YOU ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!
YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING!
I'M SORRY I EVER THOUGHT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WOULD EVER COMPARE TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
PLEASE FORGIVE US ALL FOR BEING SO DUMB AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ALL YOUR MAGNIFICENT WISDOM.
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GEM127 wrote: sometimes rational wrote:
Again--the birdfeeder story...don't confuse youself with the facts, GEM..the lawsuits..the fighting he does with real police professions...yeh..you love the guy..get a room.
If you are not or never have been a Police Officer. You don't know what you are talking about when it comes to working in that type of environment. All you can say is what people tell you. Try doing the job before you make statements you can't back up!
Well let me tell you a little story. My former LT who was appointed by a county commissioners was a real hard nose. You did everything by the book and he always had to fight for everything our department needed just to operate. But he wouldn't back down because he was doing what was they need done. And then after 30 plus years he finally retired. And in comes a new appointed LT who was a yes man and kissed some much ass he would always have a big brown spot on his nose.
This was two completely different people and when the people changes so did the peoples impression of the department. People had no respect for you or your department anymore. He was so worried if everyone like him. In a secured area, if I ask an employee to check their purse or empty their pockets they would tell my LT and I would get in trouble for doing my job.
I would much rather work under some like Sheriff Joe the any political person you could put up against him. And yes maybe it is racial profiling.
Maybe the next time you see an Officer making a car stop. Try to think of everything that is going through his mind at that time. And if you were never a Officer you can't even imagine!
So the only ppl 'qualified' to understand that Arpaio was been abusing his position, and mismanaging his department is another cop? I think not..and if it were true, there are plenty of real cops out there who are complaining about Arpaio as much as I am...I don't know why you don't think Arpaio is in a political postition...how do you think he got it-a divine appointment??
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LucifersLandlord wrote: Hey Mama, I like Joe. Back in the day when the posse was first formed up I was one of the unlucky patrons at Christown Mall to suffer the thieves ravaging the parking lot. I had a gun pulled on me and 1 of my kids after a nice evening of Christmas shopping. Sheriff Joe's posse really made a difference the next year and I stayed around the Hood until of all things the arrival of the  Walmart then I new the end was near for Christown. It never did really recover. Joe's problem is also his best asset and thats being an ass..... Spend Spend Spend, cause problems, annoy people and the list goes on. He is tough on crime and like anyone who likes the limelight will always grab a photo op or champion the most current crisis like illegals. The whole thing is LLL that another sheriff with not nearly as large an ego can and will still do a bang-up job! That's their job -- that's what they're paid for, NOT Joe-like behavior. Whatever happened to humility and just doin' the job because that's what you're paid to do. Sorry about the Christmas shopping incident and hopefully you've both recovered, but don't you think another sheriff could do the same OR better because his ego is not in the way?
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sometimes rational wrote:
Again--the birdfeeder story...don't confuse youself with the facts, GEM..the lawsuits..the fighting he does with real police professions...yeh..you love the guy..get a room.
If you are not or never have been a Police Officer. You don't know what you are talking about when it comes to working in that type of environment. All you can say is what people tell you. Try doing the job before you make statements you can't back up!
Well let me tell you a little story. My former LT who was appointed by a county commissioners was a real hard nose. You did everything by the book and he always had to fight for everything our department needed just to operate. But he wouldn't back down because he was doing what was they need done. And then after 30 plus years he finally retired. And in comes a new appointed LT who wa |