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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 10:39 pm |
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Raz wrote (in part),
Yeah, great idea, let's get some namby pamby Sheriff in here that is a yes man and worries about the PC police, please. Phoenix has the potential of being the most violent City in the entire nation, but we can thank Sheriff Joe for curtailing that embarrassing title, instead we get the "toughest Sheriff in the country" title. I will take that any day.
So Raz, are you stating that you believe Dan Saban will be "namby pamby"? From what I've heard from former sheriff department employees who no longer can conceivably work for Joe due to his ethics, Saban has integrity besides being a law enforcement guy. That would be a refreshing change for the better!
Gem wrote (in part),
WOW Now that would be a record if any law enforcement agency arrest 153 murders in a weeks time. Why do you insist that Illegal Aliens are not criminals. All the crimes you mentioned are crimes that are committed by illegal aliens. So Sheriff Joe is probably killing 2 birds with 1 stone.
Just what I thought. What does Joe do that doesn't consist of his illegal immigrant arrests? Yes those crimes are committed by illegals but they are also committed by citizens. Everything you pro-Joe posters write about though has to do with illegals; therefore, it really doesn't sound like you care about anything else and thus it appears you know about nothing else other than the fluff and illegals. Hopefully this nightmare of Joey will be done this fall.
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 10:17 pm |
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Again--the birdfeeder story...don't confuse youself with the facts, GEM..the lawsuits..the fighting he does with real police professions...yeh..you love the guy..get a room.
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Mamazoyd wrote:
Thank you Cindisue --That is a good start. This is provided we're not talking illegal immigrants. To my knowledge, they are also referred to as criminals. I guess I'm looking for homicide, abuse, drunken driving, shootings, knifings, stranglings, beatings, rape, robbery, kidnapping -- something a bit more hardcore than illegals trying to find a better place to live than their homeland.
WOW Now that would be a record if any law enforcement agency arrest 153 murders in a weeks time. Why do you insist that Illegal Aliens are not criminals. All the crimes you mentioned are crimes that are committed by illegal aliens. So Sheriff Joe is probably killing 2 birds with 1 stone.
Maybe you should read this again! Because with all your commits you make this was one post which you didn't read. Or is it the fact that I posted it, that you didn't read it.
I posted this a while ago;
I bought a bird feeder at Lowes the other day. I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed. What a beauty of a bird feeder it was. I filled it lovingly with seed. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food. But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table . everywhere!
Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.
And others birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.
Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.... quiet, serene and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
Now let's see. Our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care, and free education and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.
Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; your child's 2nd grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English.
Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to 'press one' to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than 'Old Glory' are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
Just my opinion, but maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
No matter what you say Illegals are criminals. It is against the LAW ( Federal, State, City, County, Township ) to be in this country without proper papers. PERIOD
WAY TO GO SHERIFF JOE AND ALL HIS DEPUTIES!!!!!!Last edited on Sat Apr 12th, 2008 03:01 pm by GEM127
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razenkn wrote:
Mama, this isn't rocket science. People appreciate Sheriff Joe, not for his flamboyant behaviors, but because he dares to stand up and be counted and do what needs to be done to eradicate crime, whether that crime be illegal immigration which everyone on here is holding their hand up to their mouth and saying oh no...he is arresting the Hispanics because they are illegal? Whatever will the PC Police say??? But he is also arresting the human smugglers. Do you have any idea what these people do to the "illegals"? They rape, torture, take their meager savings and for what? They still get sent back to their homeland, at least those who haven't been sold into slavery, hooked on drugs or prostituted.
Is Sheriff Joe eccentric, egoistical and a little crazy? YES, no doubt he is. Hard to work for, no doubt about that. But name just one other Sheriff in this country that has acquired the same notoriety as Sheriff Joe and do the perps really want to tangle with him, that would be a resounding NO.
You don't have to live with him so what do you care if he is nice, not nice? Those guys aren't a bunch of babies, tell them to suck it up. It's the publicity that has gotten the word out there to the criminals that they might want to do their crimes somewhere else. So? How is that not a good thing?
Yeah, great idea, let's get some namby pamby Sheriff in here that is a yes man and worries about the PC police, please. Phoenix has the potential of being the most violent City in the entire nation, but we can thank Sheriff Joe for curtailing that embarrassing title, instead we get the "toughest Sheriff in the country" title. I will take that any day.
RAZ
That brought tears to my eyes. You phrased that perfectly.
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 03:55 am |
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Mama, this isn't rocket science. People appreciate Sheriff Joe, not for his flamboyant behaviors, but because he dares to stand up and be counted and do what needs to be done to eradicate crime, whether that crime be illegal immigration which everyone on here is holding their hand up to their mouth and saying oh no...he is arresting the Hispanics because they are illegal? Whatever will the PC Police say??? But he is also arresting the human smugglers. Do you have any idea what these people do to the "illegals"? They rape, torture, take their meager savings and for what? They still get sent back to their homeland, at least those who haven't been sold into slavery, hooked on drugs or prostituted.
Is Sheriff Joe eccentric, egoistical and a little crazy? YES, no doubt he is. Hard to work for, no doubt about that. But name just one other Sheriff in this country that has acquired the same notoriety as Sheriff Joe and do the perps really want to tangle with him, that would be a resounding NO.
You don't have to live with him so what do you care if he is nice, not nice? Those guys aren't a bunch of babies, tell them to suck it up. It's the publicity that has gotten the word out there to the criminals that they might want to do their crimes somewhere else. So? How is that not a good thing?
Yeah, great idea, let's get some namby pamby Sheriff in here that is a yes man and worries about the PC police, please. Phoenix has the potential of being the most violent City in the entire nation, but we can thank Sheriff Joe for curtailing that embarrassing title, instead we get the "toughest Sheriff in the country" title. I will take that any day.
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 02:27 am |
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Thank you Cindisue --That is a good start. This is provided we're not talking illegal immigrants. To my knowledge, they are also referred to as criminals. I guess I'm looking for homicide, abuse, drunken driving, shootings, knifings, stranglings, beatings, rape, robbery, kidnapping -- something a bit more hardcore than illegals trying to find a better place to live than their homeland.
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 01:21 am |
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That is another cool.
WAY TO GO SHERIFF JOE AND THE BOYS!
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 01:14 am |
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Mamazoyd wrote: Posters, I am still seeing all the pro-Joe posts pointed towards your feelings on how he deals with illegal immigrants. Do ANY of you like him for anything else? I still maintain he's a bully and many of his sheriff department people are bullies. We have some living in this neighborhood. Other than the standard "do the crime do the time" slogan BS that I see posted and all the ranting and raving about the illegals here which appears to be your main crime issue, the pink underwear, the green balogna, tent city...the standard crap, please give me something solid and important he has done, and not the fluff.
What I like - well just heard in 30 hours his department arrested 153 criminals. That is 153 people off the streets that will not commit a crime tonight.
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I can't figure out why you hate the man so much besides as you say you have friends who work for him. blah blah blah.
Q 1) Is it that there is a tent city?
Where would you like us to put them?
Q 2) Is it there is pink boxers?
Humility is good for the soul.
Q 3) Is it the green bologna?
They are lucky they get food period.
Q 4) Is it he's tough on all criminals?
Why shouldn't he be tough.
Since when should criminals have the luxury of staying in a 5 star hotel?
If you put the fear of Sheriff Joe in them, maybe and I said maybe they won't want to come back again.
And I guess you think we should talk to them and give them 3 hots and a cot, and a window with a view! Sorry I like Sheriff Joe's way better. I think he runs a very nice complex and spends our money appropriately.
And last but never least, Their are many law enforcement agencies through out the USA who admire Sheriff Joe and would love to have their agencies do the same job as our Sheriff is doing.
Thank you again to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Department 
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 11:54 pm |
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Hey Mama, I like Joe. Back in the day when the posse was first formed up I was one of the unlucky patrons at Christown Mall to suffer the thieves ravaging the parking lot. I had a gun pulled on me and 1 of my kids after a nice evening of Christmas shopping. Sheriff Joe's posse really made a difference the next year and I stayed around the Hood until of all things the arrival of the  Walmart then I new the end was near for Christown. It never did really recover. Joe's problem is also his best asset and thats being an ass..... Spend Spend Spend, cause problems, annoy people and the list goes on. He is tough on crime and like anyone who likes the limelight will always grab a photo op or champion the most current crisis like illegals.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 11:41 pm |
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Mamazoyd wrote: Posters, I am still seeing all the pro-Joe posts pointed towards your feelings on how he deals with illegal immigrants. Do ANY of you like him for anything else? I still maintain he's a bully and many of his sheriff department people are bullies. We have some living in this neighborhood. Other than the standard "do the crime do the time" slogan BS that I see posted and all the ranting and raving about the illegals here which appears to be your main crime issue, the pink underwear, the green balogna, tent city...the standard crap, please give me something solid and important he has done, and not the fluff.
For starters, how about the fact that he is repsonsible for enforcing the law for the entire county of maricopa and, in my opinion, does a pretty good job.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 08:54 pm |
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Per old maxine, GO SHERRIFF JOE  .
Yes please go far, far away, keep going, further, further, a little more over that hill...
Welcome Sheriff Saban!
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 08:50 pm |
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Posters, I am still seeing all the pro-Joe posts pointed towards your feelings on how he deals with illegal immigrants. Do ANY of you like him for anything else? I still maintain he's a bully and many of his sheriff department people are bullies. We have some living in this neighborhood. Other than the standard "do the crime do the time" slogan BS that I see posted and all the ranting and raving about the illegals here which appears to be your main crime issue, the pink underwear, the green balogna, tent city...the standard crap, please give me something solid and important he has done, and not the fluff.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 08:47 pm |
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. . . how about Mike43's suggestion that Sheriff Joe be a write in candidate for Prez?
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 11:43 am |
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The only people that want Sherriff Joe gone is the people who has some criminal problems in their life. He is cleaning up Arizona and some are afraid they will be caught in his net. So keep on spewing your dislike and it will all come out in the wash when you are caught.
GO SHERRIFF JOE
We need more like you and less like these complainers who have nothing good going for them.
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 12:40 am |
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Let's give Sheriff Joe and all his Team
WAY TO GO AND A BIG PAT ON THE BACK!!!!!!!!!!
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Mamazoyd wrote: Wow, thanks deuce. Gotta love this passage:
To see how unhinged things have become, it pays to zero in on the squalid doings in Maricopa County, Ariz. It is home to Phoenix, the country’s fifth-largest city, and the largest 287(g) program anywhere.
It is run by the county sheriff, Joe Arpaio, who has built a national reputation for toughness through years of cruelty to prison inmates and an insatiable appetite for publicity.
Kind of puts it all together in a nutshell, doesn't it?
Duh...and people wonder why we want him gone?
No, no.....gotta read the entire Times editorial deuce posted...sad thing is, they didn't even touch on his mismanagment of county funds.
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Posted: Thu Apr 10th, 2008 01:56 am |
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Wow, thanks deuce. Gotta love this passage:
To see how unhinged things have become, it pays to zero in on the squalid doings in Maricopa County, Ariz. It is home to Phoenix, the country’s fifth-largest city, and the largest 287(g) program anywhere.
It is run by the county sheriff, Joe Arpaio, who has built a national reputation for toughness through years of cruelty to prison inmates and an insatiable appetite for publicity.
Kind of puts it all together in a nutshell, doesn't it?
Duh...and people wonder why we want him gone?
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Posted: Thu Apr 10th, 2008 01:06 am |
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NYTimes takes aim at sheriff Joe.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/opinion/09wed1.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=joe+arpaio&st=nyt&oref=slogin
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Great analogy GEM!
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AMEN....................
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From one of the Delaware forums:
Runnerman wrote:
I bought a bird feeder at Lowes the other day. I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed. What a beauty of a bird feeder it was. I filled it lovingly with seed. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food. But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table . everywhere!
Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.
And others birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
After a while, I couldn't even sit on my own back porch anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.
Soon, the back yard was like it used to be.... quiet, serene and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
Now let's see. Our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care, and free education and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.
Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; your child's 2nd grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English.
Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to 'press one' to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than 'Old Glory' are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
Just my opinion, but maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.Last edited on Wed Apr 9th, 2008 01:24 pm by GEM127
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razenkn wrote:
Who approves Sheriff Arpaio's budget and expenditures, anyone know? Apparently there is money available or he wouldn't be getting it. Nobody knows exactly what it requires to do his job so until you walk a mile in that man's shoes, it's not possible to judge. Just because some think they know better don't make it so.
He has an enormously difficult job with enormous responsibility and seems to be handling it just fine so give him what he needs to get the job done.
Perspicacity is everything and it's his department.
You really have no idea of what you're talking about. Money allocated in the budget for patrol services does not specify what kind of patrols will be performed...Money in the budget does not specify Arpaio will send his employees to Central America to have a vacation on our dime..The Sheriff is supposed to not allow that..this Sheriff authorizers it.....and, RAZ, it's not "his" department at all. It's a county agency and funded by us..not him..us.
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I love when they accuse Sheriff Joe of profiling Mexicans. Guess what have not heard of a problem with illegal Norwegians or Swed's trying to enter illegally. Go Joe Arrest every illegal regardless of who they are. We don't need or want illegals here. Come in legally like everyone else. Enough is enough. The LEGAL citizens of this great country are really getting tired of all this crap. This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and we speak ENGLISH.
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Just give all the PC Cowards a towel and tell them to kiss off.
Nice call RAZ.
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 01:43 am |
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Thanks Deuce. We can only pray our next Sheriff has half the courage this one has to fight past the PC cowards and do what is best for the us.
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Sheriff Joe does exhibit keenness of mental perception and understanding. Nice call, Raz.
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Who approves Sheriff Arpaio's budget and expenditures, anyone know? Apparently there is money available or he wouldn't be getting it. Nobody knows exactly what it requires to do his job so until you walk a mile in that man's shoes, it's not possible to judge. Just because some think they know better don't make it so.
He has an enormously difficult job with enormous responsibility and seems to be handling it just fine so give him what he needs to get the job done.
Perspicacity is everything and it's his department.
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deuce wrote: sometimes rational wrote: Interesting that before illegal immigration touched so many nerves, in 2005, Arpaio, when interviewed and asked about the scarce resources used in this area, responded by say he wasn't going to use his resources to round up guys in a pick up truck trimming palm trees...how quickly the political winds change.
Very creative, but too bad is not true.
Guess you are the reporter to whom he spoke? This was in Montini's column in today's Republic...not everything not reported on Fox is untrue. You also think Arpaio doesn't have 5 PR staffers and a PR budget of $400,00 as reported in the Republic? How many more Deputy sheriffs could be hired for that amount of money?Last edited on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 10:06 pm by
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sometimes rational wrote: Interesting that before illegal immigration touched so many nerves, in 2005, Arpaio, when interviewed and asked about the scarce resources used in this area, responded by say he wasn't going to use his resources to round up guys in a pick up truck trimming palm trees...how quickly the political winds change.
Very creative, but too bad is not true.
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| Interesting that before illegal immigration touched so many nerves, in 2005, Arpaio, when interviewed and asked about the scarce resources used in this area, responded by say he wasn't going to use his resources to round up guys in a pick up truck trimming palm trees...how quickly the political winds change.
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It really doesn't make a difference to me how he catch's these illegals as long as he catch's them and then deports them.
Way to go Sheriff Joe!
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frustrated wrote: Politician Phil is embarassed because Sheriff Joe did the job that the PPD goonies can't handle. Way to go Sheriff Joe - keep up the good work!
SR says: I'm not seeing how Arpaio is not a politician but Gordan is...Arapio is in an elected position and consistantly panders to the redneck masses.
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CottonwoodZonie wrote: While I admire Sheriff Joe's tough stance on crime, his office has performed indefensible acts to the extent that the insurance used by Maricopa now contains a $2M deductible that must be paid out of the county coffers (taxpayers money) every time the MCS settles or loses a lawsuit.
And lose they do. Before the deductible kicked in the Maricopa County Sheriff's office paid out an average of $5M a year to settle lawsuits before they came to trial, and as judgments for those they lost.
This does seem to indicates a need for reexamining policy and regulations, and then retraining as needed, and as seen by others to indicate a need for change at the top.
It appears $5M a year to settle out of court bothers no one here as long as Sheriff Joe has his photo ops with his chain gang or a bus full of illegals. I would bet a dollar to a donut that if this was any other public servant costing the taxpayers this much annually, they would have been recalled years ago. Wow//we agree on something.
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cindisue_g wrote: Way to go Joe! 47 suspects rounded up, 9 Illegals and 30 warrants served.
and these were really bad guys....some had cracked windshields...others honked their horns to show support for the demonstrators...certainly justified spending tens of thousands of dollars..yup, sure did...and 30 warrants served!! ya don't say--only 6930 warrants outstanding..most will probably die of old age before they get served.
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While I admire Sheriff Joe's tough stance on crime, his office has performed indefensible acts to the extent that the insurance used by Maricopa now contains a $2M deductible that must be paid out of the county coffers (taxpayers money) every time the MCS settles or loses a lawsuit.
And lose they do. Before the deductible kicked in the Maricopa County Sheriff's office paid out an average of $5M a year to settle lawsuits before they came to trial, and as judgments for those they lost.
This does seem to indicates a need for reexamining policy and regulations, and then retraining as needed, and as seen by others to indicate a need for change at the top.
It appears $5M a year to settle out of court bothers no one here as long as Sheriff Joe has his photo ops with his chain gang or a bus full of illegals. I would bet a dollar to a donut that if this was any other public servant costing the taxpayers this much annually, they would have been recalled years ago.
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Go get 'em Joe.
The scumbag Phoenix mayor and Police chief should be arrested for failure to enforce the laws...
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Way to Joe....
I understand he gave the Mayor of Guadalupe 90 days to find a new law enforcement agency to patrol and respond to calls within the towns limits. They are just hiding the Illegals who live there anyway. They really should just turn themselves in because they are running out of places to hide.
Another WAY TO GO JOE Last edited on Tue Apr 8th, 2008 12:46 am by GEM127
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Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2008 02:59 pm |
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| Way to go Joe! 47 suspects rounded up, 9 Illegals and 30 warrants served.
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GEM127
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Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2008 05:43 am |
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SR do you want a towel so you can cry into. Because that is all you do. You really don't have anything to contribute except a really poor understanding of the way real people feel about our Sheriff.
I am so sick and tired of hearing from you how everyone is wrong and you are right. Well guess what you don't hold a candle to our Sheriff and sorry you cry so much.
And maybe everyone on here ignores me, but I really don't care. Because you think I don't have anything to contribute, but I just might like to make fun of people and what they have to say.
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Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2008 04:31 am |
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razenkn wrote:
I think Sheriff Joe should throw his hat into the ring and run for President as an Independent!!
He'd have Washington's crap squared away in no time. Heck, I bet even Al-Qaeda would be afraid of him!! Then he could be in front of the camera all the time and nobody would be able to gripe about it. I bet he would also take care of our open borders debacle in a heartbeat, the human and drug trade would completely dry up and then we would be able to focus on the American gang problem that is costing us bezillion's of dollars and lives each year. Maybe he would insist that all members of Congress wear pink underwear and eat green baloney to cut back on budgets. So you also think Arpaio should wear pink underwear and eat green baloney to stay within his own budget? Hey, I'm liking this idea...if life were only as simple in reality as you think it is. Hey, I'm liking this idea.
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Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2008 04:28 am |
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deuce wrote: sr wrote:
Of course, but the point is: if someone runs for Sheriff, that person is a politician...having a successful recall is difficult...any agency manager behaving as Arpaio has, in terms, of mismanagment and atttempted intimidation, would be reigned in by their supervisor very quickly and effectively if his position was appointed v. elected...a lot of well qualified, competent police managers don't want the bs that goes running for office v. applying for a city police chief job and working without the need to pander or have 5 weekly press conferences...Arpaio has 5 press officers...have you ever seen a law enforcement officer with is mug on the tube as much as Arpaio? he couldn't afford to buy that kind of publicity when running for offfice.
Since you don't like the process/system and the way the incumbent is carrying on, I guess your vote for Saban will be a protest vote against Arpaio - ? Or, will you be withholding your vote altogether as a protest against the process/system. Can't have it both ways.
Since a vote for Saban is a vote against Arpaio, of course, that's what I'll do...but the point is our interests and taxpayer dollars would be much better served with an appointed law enforcement administrator...which is the case in every single law enforcement organization other than county Sheriff.
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Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2008 11:39 pm |
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It sounds like a great idea to me also. I can see the border fence going up as we speak. And all those little cockroaches running back home before they end up in a Federal Prison which would be twice as bad a tent city.
Bin Lauden would come out of hiding and surrender to President Joe on national TV. The world would be cheering and only a few of the Sheriff Joe haters would have frowns on their faces.
And you are so right he could get all the TV coverage he wants. And maybe a little green bologna and some pink boxers would look good on a lot of our senators and congressmen. Just to keep them in line of course.
I would vote for him.
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Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2008 10:49 pm |
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I think Sheriff Joe should throw his hat into the ring and run for President as an Independent!!
He'd have Washington's crap squared away in no time. Heck, I bet even Al-Qaeda would be afraid of him!! Then he could be in front of the camera all the time and nobody would be able to gripe about it. I bet he would also take care of our open borders debacle in a heartbeat, the human and drug trade would completely dry up and then we would be able to focus on the American gang problem that is costing us bezillion's of dollars and lives each year. Maybe he would insist that all members of Congress wear pink underwear and eat green baloney to cut back on budgets. Hey, I'm liking this idea.
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Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2008 07:36 pm |
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sr wrote:
Of course, but the point is: if someone runs for Sheriff, that person is a politician...having a successful recall is difficult...any agency manager behaving as Arpaio has, in terms, of mismanagment and atttempted intimidation, would be reigned in by their supervisor very quickly and effectively if his position was appointed v. elected...a lot of well qualified, competent police managers don't want the bs that goes running for office v. applying for a city police chief job and working without the need to pander or have 5 weekly press conferences...Arpaio has 5 press officers...have you ever seen a law enforcement officer with is mug on the tube as much as Arpaio? he couldn't afford to buy that kind of publicity when running for offfice.
Since you don't like the process/system and the way the incumbent is carrying on, I guess your vote for Saban will be a protest vote against Arpaio - ? Or, will you be withholding your vote altogether as a protest against the process/system. Can't have it both ways. Last edited on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 11:56 pm by deuce
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Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2008 05:22 pm |
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So by Sheriff Joe doing his job the way he and the majority of the people of the county and state think his job should be done. And with people constantly having their money hunger lawyers filing petty lawsuits against our good sheriff.
Now you are complaining that he is on TV and that is just free re-election publicity. That is mind blowing. Talk about hating someone.
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Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2008 04:16 am |
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deuce wrote: sr wrote in part:
". . .but the county has nothing to say about the county 'police chief' which is called 'sheriff/"
I'm confused. Isn't the sheriff elected by the voters? Doesn't that mean he can be recalled by the voters? You'll have your chance to vote for Saban.
Of course, but the point is: if someone runs for Sheriff, that person is a politician...having a successful recall is difficult...any agency manager behaving as Arpaio has, in terms, of mismanagment and atttempted intimidation, would be reigned in by their supervisor very quickly and effectively if his position was appointed v. elected...a lot of well qualified, competent police managers don't want the bs that goes running for office v. applying for a city police chief job and working without the need to pander or have 5 weekly press conferences...Arpaio has 5 press officers...have you ever seen a law enforcement officer with is mug on the tube as much as Arpaio? he couldn't afford to buy that kind of publicity when running for offfice.
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Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2008 12:33 am |
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sr wrote in part:
". . .but the county has nothing to say about the county 'police chief' which is called 'sheriff/"
I'm confused. Isn't the sheriff elected by the voters? Doesn't that mean he can be recalled by the voters? You'll have your chance to vote for Saban.
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Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2008 12:14 am |
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| So does your reply mean you are for or against Sheriff Joe?
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Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2008 12:01 am |
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So what's wrong with this picture: the mayor of a town or city get's to appoint the police chief (or the council does)...the Governor of the state gets to appoint the 'police commissioner' for DPS...but the county has nothing to say about the county 'police chief' which is called 'sheriff'/
So now we find that Arpaio, who is over a million over budget, who is wasting the resources of hundreds of deputies stopping cars with broken tail lights or cracked windows, has a Public Relations budget of over $400,000 including 5 PR people..and miffed at Channel 12 news for questioning his, administrative ability, is referring Ch. 12 inquires to an outside law firm which bills the county hourly...why is this vintictive, childish, allowed to continue without santions? It's because Shefiffs' answer to nobody and Arpaio sure understands that.
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