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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 02:43 am |
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GEM127 wrote: You little stinker, you knew this one would come back. You are so wrong. I can't say I even know someone who spent time sweating it out. Us Joey "bashers" are the people who are so tired of the self promoting smuggness he exhibits. We are the people who are tired of the money wasting lawsuits. Even people who work for Joey are tired, yes damn tired, of the escapades of Joe. The unfortunate part is they can't speak of them yet, but I can guarantee you when that man is out of office for good, stories will come spilling out like an upside down carton of milk. They are so afraid to speak out, and yes, their family members are afraid to speak out, for fear of Joey retribution and losing their jobs. When he's out it won't be too soon.
Personally the man makes me laugh, probably almost as much as most of you people who post on here. But at least he does the job he is being paid to do. Which makes him a credit to the profession.
If he is such a bad boss why don't all the people you know just quit.
The stories fly about everyone when they leave office, so that isn't anything out of the normal.
So you think because some chic laid on her back and got pregnant that we the tax payers should pay for her abortion? Why?
Since when did the prison system become a birth control clinic?
Maybe it's the fact that the illegal cockroaches are being sent back to Mexico by the Good Sheriff!
Or is it the fact that the inmates have to do road work?
Or is it the color of their uniforms that bothers you so much.
All the man is doing is the job he was paid to do and if he has to file a lawsuit now and then to do his job then so be it.
If the bleeding heart liberals of this state and country would stop changing the rules all the time to suit them then there wouldn't be so many law suits.
Comprende??? No, I didn't think so. Jiminy Christmas! Like decent PAYING jobs are SO easy to find nowadays. Get that??? DECENT PAYING, not decent. Actually, they might be decent except for that jerk who terrifies and bullies.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 12:26 am |
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OK..I'm going to try to get thru to you one more time..then I give up...you write that abortions are (never) emergencies, that they are elective ==that's not always correct...then you write that an abortion can be an emergency under certain circumstances (that's what I wrote prior to your tirade) ..then you write that prisoners have no right to be transported for medical treatment--that's also incorrect per US Constitution...they you go off on a tirade about lawyers...seems that you were probably sued and lost...maybe that's why you like the Sheriff so much...he frequently gets sued and loses or settles out of court----you both hate lawyers..immigrants and Democrats, and civil rights..I got it! You are Sheriff Joe!
I think maybe you should read before you open your mouth. I will have to try and get this through to you again. First off, I never said abortions are never an emergency I said the ones Sheriff Joe is dealing with here are elective. The need of medical attention, means someone is hurt in some fashion. The big word here is NEED. It doesn't mean giving rides to people for elective procedures. I know people right here in Surprise who have to pay for a ride to go to the Doctor's for medical treatment, not elective but real treatment. And you think prisoners should be giving free rides for elective procedures. Talk about wasting tax payers money.
Maybe you should read up on what those prisoners really get because they are behind bars. Like the Federal Grant money for higher education your kid won't get because the prisoner claims zero for income. It cost tax payers approx. $22,000.00 a year to keep prisoners in jail and you want them to have free elective medical procedures besides.
And since when did prisoners get rights? Oh you must be one of those people who think the cockroaches who come across the border illegally have rights also.
And yes I did say about lawyers because everyone on here is jumping down Sheriff Joe's throat about lawsuits. And yes lawyers are bottom feeders. They are part of the reason why this country is in the poor shape it's in.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 04:55 pm |
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GEM127 wrote: You seem to think that an abortion is to be considered a medical treatment. It is an elective treatment. So no prisoners, don't have a right to be transported for that purpose. Let them use a coat hanger for all I care. Now that would save us money. $$$$$$$$$$
Maybe you feel that an abortion is a medical emergency, but I don't. Maybe you should go look up medical emergencies and see what constitutes an emergency. The only way an abortion is an emergency is when the mother is having complications with the pregnancy and she could die from it.
And yes if there wasn't so many bleeding heart liberals out there with the word lawsuit tattooed on their forehead. Lawyers are bottom feeders and people like you seem to think they are good. They are only good for one thing and that is filing lawsuits, whether the suits have meaning or not. They pray on the weak and all you have to do is watch TV and you will see all their ads.
With all the good Sheriff Joe is doing in this county and all you can fault with is a couple of lawsuits that he has had filed against him. That is too bad.
OK..I'm going to try to get thru to you one more time..then I give up...you write that abortions are (never) emergencies, that they are elective ==that's not always correct...then you write that an abortion can be an emergency under certain circumstances (that's what I wrote prior to your tirade) ..then you write that prisoners have no right to be transported for medical treatment--that's also incorrect per US Constitution...they you go off on a tirade about lawyers...seems that you were probably sued and lost...maybe that's why you like the Sheriff so much...he frequently gets sued and loses or settles out of court----you both hate lawyers..immigrants and Democrats, and civil rights..I got it! You are Sheriff Joe!Last edited on Wed Mar 26th, 2008 04:57 pm by
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 02:14 pm |
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While I admire Sheriff Joe's tough stance on crime, his office has performed indefensible acts to the extent that the insurance used by Maricopa now contains a $2M deductible that must be paid out of the county coffers (taxpayers money) every time the MCS settles or loses a lawsuit.
And lose they do. Before the deductible kicked in the Maricopa County Sheriff's office paid out an average of $5M a year to settle lawsuits before they came to trial, and as judgments for those they lost.
This does seem to indicates a need for reexamining policy and regulations, and then retraining as needed, and as seen by others to indicate a need for change at the top.
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GEM127
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 01:53 pm |
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You seem to think that an abortion is to be considered a medical treatment. It is an elective treatment. So no prisoners, don't have a right to be transported for that purpose. Let them use a coat hanger for all I care. Now that would save us money. $$$$$$$$$$
Maybe you feel that an abortion is a medical emergency, but I don't. Maybe you should go look up medical emergencies and see what constitutes an emergency. The only way an abortion is an emergency is when the mother is having complications with the pregnancy and she could die from it.
And yes if there wasn't so many bleeding heart liberals out there with the word lawsuit tattooed on their forehead. Lawyers are bottom feeders and people like you seem to think they are good. They are only good for one thing and that is filing lawsuits, whether the suits have meaning or not. They pray on the weak and all you have to do is watch TV and you will see all their ads.
With all the good Sheriff Joe is doing in this county and all you can fault with is a couple of lawsuits that he has had filed against him. That is too bad.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 05:14 am |
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GEM127 wrote: You little stinker, you knew this one would come back. You are so wrong. I can't say I even know someone who spent time sweating it out. Us Joey "bashers" are the people who are so tired of the self promoting smuggness he exhibits. We are the people who are tired of the money wasting lawsuits. Even people who work for Joey are tired, yes damn tired, of the escapades of Joe. The unfortunate part is they can't speak of them yet, but I can guarantee you when that man is out of office for good, stories will come spilling out like an upside down carton of milk. They are so afraid to speak out, and yes, their family members are afraid to speak out, for fear of Joey retribution and losing their jobs. When he's out it won't be too soon.
Personally the man makes me laugh, probably almost as much as most of you people who post on here. But at least he does the job he is being paid to do. Which makes him a credit to the profession.
If he is such a bad boss why don't all the people you know just quit.
The stories fly about everyone when they leave office, so that isn't anything out of the normal.
So you think because some chic laid on her back and got pregnant that we the tax payers should pay for her abortion? Why?
Since when did the prison system become a birth control clinic?
Maybe it's the fact that the illegal cockroaches are being sent back to Mexico by the Good Sheriff!
Or is it the fact that the inmates have to do road work?
Or is it the color of their uniforms that bothers you so much.
All the man is doing is the job he was paid to do and if he has to file a lawsuit now and then to do his job then so be it.
If the bleeding heart liberals of this state and country would stop changing the rules all the time to suit them then there wouldn't be so many law suits.
SR says: GEM, I really hate to confuse you with facts but:
no where did I write that abortions are necessarily emergencies, althought they might be...but, GEM, where does it say trasportation shall be only for medical emergencies? It doesn't, you dolt. In fact, the constitution
requires prisoners to have access to medical care...OK, next, is the matter of cost..you write taxpapers shouldn't have to pay for abortions...you really think the cost of delivering even a ealthy baby is less than an abortion?...and you write Joe is involved in a lawsuit 'now and then"...sheesh, you are clueless even for a liberal-basher.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 01:30 am |
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Exactly Gem, there wouldn't be ALL THOSE lawsuits if it weren't for the bleeding heart liberals wanting to give the perp all the breaks and punish the victim. Happens all the time, that is what is shameful, not my man Joe. He just has the guts, conviction and moral courage to do what should be done in every US City and doesn't feel the need to kiss any PC sissy liberal a$$ to do the job he was hired to do, which is plain and simple....ENFORCE THE LAW! 
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 01:22 am |
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You little stinker, you knew this one would come back. You are so wrong. I can't say I even know someone who spent time sweating it out. Us Joey "bashers" are the people who are so tired of the self promoting smuggness he exhibits. We are the people who are tired of the money wasting lawsuits. Even people who work for Joey are tired, yes damn tired, of the escapades of Joe. The unfortunate part is they can't speak of them yet, but I can guarantee you when that man is out of office for good, stories will come spilling out like an upside down carton of milk. They are so afraid to speak out, and yes, their family members are afraid to speak out, for fear of Joey retribution and losing their jobs. When he's out it won't be too soon.
Personally the man makes me laugh, probably almost as much as most of you people who post on here. But at least he does the job he is being paid to do. Which makes him a credit to the profession.
If he is such a bad boss why don't all the people you know just quit.
The stories fly about everyone when they leave office, so that isn't anything out of the normal.
So you think because some chic laid on her back and got pregnant that we the tax payers should pay for her abortion? Why?
Since when did the prison system become a birth control clinic?
Maybe it's the fact that the illegal cockroaches are being sent back to Mexico by the Good Sheriff!
Or is it the fact that the inmates have to do road work?
Or is it the color of their uniforms that bothers you so much.
All the man is doing is the job he was paid to do and if he has to file a lawsuit now and then to do his job then so be it.
If the bleeding heart liberals of this state and country would stop changing the rules all the time to suit them then there wouldn't be so many law suits.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 12:32 am |
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bouche wrote: When Saban gives up his Buckeye job he'll be unemployed 'cuz his chances of beating Sheriff Joe are slim to none. OK mama, how much you willing to wager? Make it worth my while if I'm going to reveal my identity. Take your best shot and remember, make it worth my while.
Okay bouche, now you make more sense. I was wondering where you were going before. No, I'm not going to wager anything. My understanding is there are far too many Sun City residents who keep voting him in. You do realize that Sun City and West being county areas, rely heavily on Joey. He sucks up and they love it! They don't belong to a city municipality and they are his biggest fans. My hopes are that they will come to their senses and see him possibly for the first time. I don't know how much more arrogant the guy can become, but hopefully the retired folks will clear their eyes and see. I do believe and hope, however, Saban changing over to Dem. might benefit him. He'll definitely get my vote just like he did last time!
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 12:05 am |
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When Saban gives up his Buckeye job he'll be unemployed 'cuz his chances of beating Sheriff Joe are slim to none. OK mama, how much you willing to wager? Make it worth my while if I'm going to reveal my identity. Take your best shot and remember, make it worth my while.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 11:30 pm |
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GEM127 wrote: razenkn wrote:
so he was refusing to transport inmates to medical facilities for abortions...last I knew, abortions were considered medical treatments.
Did we forget the word "elective" abortions? As in not a medical emergency elective abortion? As in birth control elective abortion? Don't know about anyone else, but I don't want my tax dollars and our already stretched to the limits law enforcement being used in such a way. These women had many choices - don't break the law and get tossed into the pokey and don't do the "dance" if you don't want to get pregnant. There you go. How is it that their poor decisions become the problem of Sheriff Arpaio and the taxpayers? Joe is on the common sense side again, as always.
Way to go Sheriff Joe. And you also RAZ. I don't know what School of Medicine SR went to, but if we are going to transport prisoners for abortions then let get them tummy tucks and breast implants also. Yes they are medical procedures, but they are not procedures which constitutes an emergency. If the female is having a miscarriage then that would be an emergency.
The man is doing a fine job. I think maybe the people who have the biggest problem with Sheriff Joe are probably the ones who have visited TENT CITY once or twice. And that is why they bash him so much.
Since when do prisoners have any rights in the first place. You little stinker, you knew this one would come back. You are so wrong. I can't say I even know someone who spent time sweating it out. Us Joey "bashers" are the people who are so tired of the self promoting smuggness he exhibits. We are the people who are tired of the money wasting lawsuits. Even people who work for Joey are tired, yes damn tired, of the escapades of Joe. The unfortunate part is they can't speak of them yet, but I can guarantee you when that man is out of office for good, stories will come spilling out like an upside down carton of milk. They are so afraid to speak out, and yes, their family members are afraid to speak out, for fear of Joey retribution and losing their jobs. When he's out it won't be too soon.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 11:18 pm |
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razenkn wrote:
so he was refusing to transport inmates to medical facilities for abortions...last I knew, abortions were considered medical treatments.
Did we forget the word "elective" abortions? As in not a medical emergency elective abortion? As in birth control elective abortion? Don't know about anyone else, but I don't want my tax dollars and our already stretched to the limits law enforcement being used in such a way. These women had many choices - don't break the law and get tossed into the pokey and don't do the "dance" if you don't want to get pregnant. There you go. How is it that their poor decisions become the problem of Sheriff Arpaio and the taxpayers? Joe is on the common sense side again, as always.
Way to go Sheriff Joe. And you also RAZ. I don't know what School of Medicine SR went to, but if we are going to transport prisoners for abortions then let get them tummy tucks and breast implants also. Yes they are medical procedures, but they are not procedures which constitutes an emergency. If the female is having a miscarriage then that would be an emergency.
The man is doing a fine job. I think maybe the people who have the biggest problem with Sheriff Joe are probably the ones who have visited TENT CITY once or twice. And that is why they bash him so much.
Since when do prisoners have any rights in the first place.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 08:49 pm |
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razenkn wrote:
so he was refusing to transport inmates to medical facilities for abortions...last I knew, abortions were considered medical treatments.
Did we forget the word "elective" abortions? As in not a medical emergency elective abortion? As in birth control elective abortion? Don't know about anyone else, but I don't want my tax dollars and our already stretched to the limits law enforcement being used in such a way. These women had many choices - don't break the law and get tossed into the pokey and don't do the "dance" if you don't want to get pregnant. There you go. How is it that their poor decisions become the problem of Sheriff Arpaio and the taxpayers? Joe is on the common sense side again, as always.
Where does it say a doctors visit must be due to an emergency??? Love how you do the twist, you're not Chubby Checker, are ya? If Joe had any common sense, he wouldn't be wasting taxpayer money on these stupid lawsuits...they have cost us waaay more than abortions for prisoners.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 07:28 pm |
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Thank you SR, appreciate the compliment! I like thinking people -- they have and make more substantive points. I'll have to check out the Republic -- thanks!
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 07:24 pm |
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so he was refusing to transport inmates to medical facilities for abortions...last I knew, abortions were considered medical treatments.
Did we forget the word "elective" abortions? As in not a medical emergency elective abortion? As in birth control elective abortion? Don't know about anyone else, but I don't want my tax dollars and our already stretched to the limits law enforcement being used in such a way. These women had many choices - don't break the law and get tossed into the pokey and don't do the "dance" if you don't want to get pregnant. There you go. How is it that their poor decisions become the problem of Sheriff Arpaio and the taxpayers? Joe is on the common sense side again, as always.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 07:16 pm |
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Mamazoyd wrote: The guy files a lawsuit again Joe concerning the treatment and denial of basis rights for patients (he was never convicted of anything)...the guy takes off to return to the USSR to live AFTER it's learned he did not that have kind of contagious TB...
Really? He's not contagious and Joey is still pushing the lawsuit? Hopefully Russia doesn't think it's the entire population of the US acting that way. What a wonder! Ol' Joey is running his self-induced grandiose reputation right down the toilet. Ignorance abounds!
Yeh--check today's Republic..his take on it is that Arpaio is pursuing it because of the Federal lawsuit pending against Arpaio....by the way, mama...I have a lot of respect for you even we disagreed on the Morman thing...you are a true independent...leans towards McCain but up to your neck with Arpaio..most independents I know are just independent because they are too lazy to take a party position/so, you go, gurl
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 07:09 pm |
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The guy files a lawsuit again Joe concerning the treatment and denial of basis rights for patients (he was never convicted of anything)...the guy takes off to return to the USSR to live AFTER it's learned he did not that have kind of contagious TB...
Really? He's not contagious and Joey is still pushing the lawsuit? Hopefully Russia doesn't think it's the entire population of the US acting that way. What a wonder! Ol' Joey is running his self-induced grandiose reputation right down the toilet. Ignorance abounds!
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Posted: Tue Mar 25th, 2008 07:04 pm |
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sr missed the whole point. It was another of sheriff Joe's plans to get national publicity and it worked. Abortion was a ruse.
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so he was refusing to transport inmates to medical facilities for abortions...last I knew, abortions were considered medical treatments...who gave Arpaio the right to decide which medical treatments inmates could have? last I knew he was a Sheriff, not a doctor....so the court tells him he must transport..he appeals, and naturally, loses...how much did that appeal cost us?
Moving right along, the guy accused of have TB and violated a court order involving limiting his contact to the public, based of his diagnosis of TB is locked up by Doc., oops, Sheriff Joe. The guy files a lawsuit again Joe concerning the treatment and denial of basis rights for patients (he was never convicted of anything)...the guy takes off to return to the USSR to live AFTER it's learned he did not that have kind of contagious TB...So: the guy was not contagious so the court order restricting his mobility was based on wrong information (like the iraq war)...but, Joe is continuing the case against him anyway...what a waste of our money....when are we going to stop electing ppl like Joe who just want to set themselves up for book deals and publicity by engaging in lawsuits he generally loses.
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