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Mamazoyd wrote: Geez Gem, you broke the pretty pattern that ol Joe was making!
It's easy to start a new , fresh one..just address it to -you-know-who-must-get=the-last-word in.
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GEM, as scary as it is, I happen to agree with you on this. President Bush gave an awesome speech today in Israel to commemorate their 60th Anniversary of existence. In his speech he outlined some of the ongoing threats in our world and he spoke of those who believe in appeasement to the enemies of Israel that call them "stinking corpse" and threatening to blow them off the face of the earth. He used the 1939 Hitler appeaser's, some US Senators who felt they should have tried to talk to him. Didn't work then, and it won't work now. What can you possibly say to these lunatics to make them back down and change their beliefs, nothing. There is nothing to say to them.
Now, within a few short hours of President Bush saying that, we have Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden doing a complete meltdown saying "how dare he say that on foreign soil". SAY WHAT?? President Bush stated a fact. Didn't Jimmy Carter just meet with the Hamas leaders, you know, the people who hate the Jews and bomb them every chance they get? So, what did that get us?? Nothing. It will never get us anything. Barack Obama said he would meet with all of them in his first year of office without pre-conditions. Whoa.
There is absolutely no loyalty to our country from some of these people, the only loyalty they have is to their ideology, far, far, left ideology and misguided power. At some point, we need to call them on it and say PLEASE STOP. You are hurting our country.
Sheriff Joe is probably the only sane one in our local government that gets it. If you don't stop the flow we are all going to pay such a huge price for it and we are almost there, we will never be able to go back. Let's take the politics out of if. You are right GEM, it make me sick too.
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Just getting tired of fighting over who is right and who is wrong.
This is why the politicians always win, because we can't find a common ground for anything.
I just read a article from a web site about what happened at a funeral for a fallen soldier and the protesters who were there. Some people have no respect.
http://www.cyclerides.com/
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Posted: Fri May 16th, 2008 12:58 am |
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Geez Gem, you broke the pretty pattern that ol Joe was making!
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Raz I agree with you completely. He is doing a fine job and the people who are doing nothing are complaining.
If you are not part of the solution, you must part of the problem.
That's all.
ALL Politicians SUC*
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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: GEM127 wrote: sometimes rational wrote:
So there Arpaio was again..press conference time, having a hissy fit about the Gov./DPS cutting $1.6 million from him to fund a task force to go after the 60,000 felons who have active warrants out on them...Arpaio is still into his 'broken tail light' sweeps.///and remember the mayor of Guadalupe he was screaming at on TV?.....I'm sure it was just coinsidence that the mayor was stopped by a Sheriff's deputy for a broken light the other night...Probably shorty after someone in a uniform might have broken it...so, they are treating Arpaio as he deserves to be treated...no pink underwear for him, just squeeze and squeeze his budget...dictators hate that...it's sort of like an embargo...Joe is the new Cuba.
You knew I would have to respond to that quote.
It is the only way the parties with in can control him and you know yourself that we all must be controlled by the Government. Whether you feel he is doing things right or wrong, it's all about control. If you don't do things their way it's not the right way.
I know we don't agree on the way Sheriff Joe is doing his job, but you have to agree that he is doing something, instead of just sitting on his hands and doing nothing
I was in Law Enforcement for 12 years and we did have to clean up some areas and you are always on the border of the law, but no matter how it is done you must walk the fence to get the job done. I don't agree with you (that's a shock, huh?). The easy and pc thing for the state to have done would have been to let this wildly popular cowboy continue as he has. It took a lot of guts for the state to finally say enuf....and what's up with your logic that as long as Arpaio is doing something, anything, it's fine? Our least fav cowboy, Bush has been 'doing something'...that's not the criteria..it's doing the right thing that counts...maybe Joe will have to cancel his res to Hondurous now.
I don't think it took guts for what the Governor did, it was political pandering plain and simple. What part of the word "illegal" doesn't the Governor understand. The right thing to do is to make sure there are no criminals (which yes that does include illegal immigrants (operative word illegal)) on the streets. It is clear that the Governor cares more about illegal immigrants than she does the citizens of the state of Arizona. What's clear is that the Gov. understands that clearing a backlog of 60,00 felony warrants is a greater priority than broken lights. You're right that it's important to remove criminals from the streets...let's see, which is a more efficient way to accomplish that: go after those deemed criminals by virue of the fact that they already have feolony warrents or set up traffic stops and hope you get lucky?
I'd do both - I'd go after those deemed criminals and I would set up traffic stops, because if you look Sheriff Joe has been successful - I believe in on sweep, there were 150 criminal apprehended (75 illegals and 75 US citizens), Joe was pretty lucky if you ask me.
You miss the point..he doesn't have the budget to do both. He runs his dept in the red...and he choose to let 60,000 felony warrants sit..and the 150 were arrested but not convicted as of yet..which is more threatening, 60,00 felonys or 150 arrests (probably for mist. v. felony). In this case, I believe the end justifies the means.
Wow, you folks are making a damn fine design here. I guess ol' Joe is good for something. After reading the article about him and his new book today, I know even more why I have no use for that guy.
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 10:01 pm |
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sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: GEM127 wrote: sometimes rational wrote:
So there Arpaio was again..press conference time, having a hissy fit about the Gov./DPS cutting $1.6 million from him to fund a task force to go after the 60,000 felons who have active warrants out on them...Arpaio is still into his 'broken tail light' sweeps.///and remember the mayor of Guadalupe he was screaming at on TV?.....I'm sure it was just coinsidence that the mayor was stopped by a Sheriff's deputy for a broken light the other night...Probably shorty after someone in a uniform might have broken it...so, they are treating Arpaio as he deserves to be treated...no pink underwear for him, just squeeze and squeeze his budget...dictators hate that...it's sort of like an embargo...Joe is the new Cuba.
You knew I would have to respond to that quote.
It is the only way the parties with in can control him and you know yourself that we all must be controlled by the Government. Whether you feel he is doing things right or wrong, it's all about control. If you don't do things their way it's not the right way.
I know we don't agree on the way Sheriff Joe is doing his job, but you have to agree that he is doing something, instead of just sitting on his hands and doing nothing
I was in Law Enforcement for 12 years and we did have to clean up some areas and you are always on the border of the law, but no matter how it is done you must walk the fence to get the job done. I don't agree with you (that's a shock, huh?). The easy and pc thing for the state to have done would have been to let this wildly popular cowboy continue as he has. It took a lot of guts for the state to finally say enuf....and what's up with your logic that as long as Arpaio is doing something, anything, it's fine? Our least fav cowboy, Bush has been 'doing something'...that's not the criteria..it's doing the right thing that counts...maybe Joe will have to cancel his res to Hondurous now.
I don't think it took guts for what the Governor did, it was political pandering plain and simple. What part of the word "illegal" doesn't the Governor understand. The right thing to do is to make sure there are no criminals (which yes that does include illegal immigrants (operative word illegal)) on the streets. It is clear that the Governor cares more about illegal immigrants than she does the citizens of the state of Arizona. What's clear is that the Gov. understands that clearing a backlog of 60,00 felony warrants is a greater priority than broken lights. You're right that it's important to remove criminals from the streets...let's see, which is a more efficient way to accomplish that: go after those deemed criminals by virue of the fact that they already have feolony warrents or set up traffic stops and hope you get lucky?
I'd do both - I'd go after those deemed criminals and I would set up traffic stops, because if you look Sheriff Joe has been successful - I believe in on sweep, there were 150 criminal apprehended (75 illegals and 75 US citizens), Joe was pretty lucky if you ask me.
You miss the point..he doesn't have the budget to do both. He runs his dept in the red...and he choose to let 60,000 felony warrants sit..and the 150 were arrested but not convicted as of yet..which is more threatening, 60,00 felonys or 150 arrests (probably for mist. v. felony). In this case, I believe the end justifies the means.
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 09:40 pm |
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Then they need to give Sheriff Joe more money. There, problem solved!! 
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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: GEM127 wrote: sometimes rational wrote:
So there Arpaio was again..press conference time, having a hissy fit about the Gov./DPS cutting $1.6 million from him to fund a task force to go after the 60,000 felons who have active warrants out on them...Arpaio is still into his 'broken tail light' sweeps.///and remember the mayor of Guadalupe he was screaming at on TV?.....I'm sure it was just coinsidence that the mayor was stopped by a Sheriff's deputy for a broken light the other night...Probably shorty after someone in a uniform might have broken it...so, they are treating Arpaio as he deserves to be treated...no pink underwear for him, just squeeze and squeeze his budget...dictators hate that...it's sort of like an embargo...Joe is the new Cuba.
You knew I would have to respond to that quote.
It is the only way the parties with in can control him and you know yourself that we all must be controlled by the Government. Whether you feel he is doing things right or wrong, it's all about control. If you don't do things their way it's not the right way.
I know we don't agree on the way Sheriff Joe is doing his job, but you have to agree that he is doing something, instead of just sitting on his hands and doing nothing
I was in Law Enforcement for 12 years and we did have to clean up some areas and you are always on the border of the law, but no matter how it is done you must walk the fence to get the job done. I don't agree with you (that's a shock, huh?). The easy and pc thing for the state to have done would have been to let this wildly popular cowboy continue as he has. It took a lot of guts for the state to finally say enuf....and what's up with your logic that as long as Arpaio is doing something, anything, it's fine? Our least fav cowboy, Bush has been 'doing something'...that's not the criteria..it's doing the right thing that counts...maybe Joe will have to cancel his res to Hondurous now.
I don't think it took guts for what the Governor did, it was political pandering plain and simple. What part of the word "illegal" doesn't the Governor understand. The right thing to do is to make sure there are no criminals (which yes that does include illegal immigrants (operative word illegal)) on the streets. It is clear that the Governor cares more about illegal immigrants than she does the citizens of the state of Arizona. What's clear is that the Gov. understands that clearing a backlog of 60,00 felony warrants is a greater priority than broken lights. You're right that it's important to remove criminals from the streets...let's see, which is a more efficient way to accomplish that: go after those deemed criminals by virue of the fact that they already have feolony warrents or set up traffic stops and hope you get lucky?
I'd do both - I'd go after those deemed criminals and I would set up traffic stops, because if you look Sheriff Joe has been successful - I believe in on sweep, there were 150 criminal apprehended (75 illegals and 75 US citizens), Joe was pretty lucky if you ask me.
You miss the point..he doesn't have the budget to do both. He runs his dept in the red...and he choose to let 60,000 felony warrants sit..and the 150 were arrested but not convicted as of yet..which is more threatening, 60,00 felonys or 150 arrests (probably for mist. v. felony).
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What happened to the effort to recall sheriff joe? Not enough signed petitions? Wow, imagine that. My guess is gordon won't be so lucky. You can tout the "do nothings" all you want but they will all eventually all be "has beens". I believe the people are truly impressed with those who try to do their jobs and have little patience for those who, out of fear of alienating the lawbreakers, do nothing but criticize.
Driving with a burned out tail light or headlight? I was stopped for that once but, unlike her honor the mayor of guadalupe, I had my proof of registration and insurance. Wonder why she didn't have either? Apparently her only defense is she was the victim of racial profiling. I don't recall her saying that her registration was current and she did, in fact, have the required insurance. What a farce for her to insinuate that the deputies, only doing their job, are racists. She should be thrown out of office.
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 03:19 pm |
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The whole angst with Sheriff Joe doing his job is that it becomes increasingly clear how many others are not. They all give lip service to the illegal immigration issue but nobody is willing to step up and do what needs to be done, other than our friend Sheriff Joe. By him doing his job it puts the non-doers in the spotlight and under the heat lamp and they don't like it.
If they think Janet's all powerful precipitous withdrawal of promised funds will stop him, I don't think she knows him very well. It only shows her real views and the band-aids she has been proposing are nothing more than phony political baloney.
Keep on trucking Joe!! 
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sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: GEM127 wrote: sometimes rational wrote:
So there Arpaio was again..press conference time, having a hissy fit about the Gov./DPS cutting $1.6 million from him to fund a task force to go after the 60,000 felons who have active warrants out on them...Arpaio is still into his 'broken tail light' sweeps.///and remember the mayor of Guadalupe he was screaming at on TV?.....I'm sure it was just coinsidence that the mayor was stopped by a Sheriff's deputy for a broken light the other night...Probably shorty after someone in a uniform might have broken it...so, they are treating Arpaio as he deserves to be treated...no pink underwear for him, just squeeze and squeeze his budget...dictators hate that...it's sort of like an embargo...Joe is the new Cuba.
You knew I would have to respond to that quote.
It is the only way the parties with in can control him and you know yourself that we all must be controlled by the Government. Whether you feel he is doing things right or wrong, it's all about control. If you don't do things their way it's not the right way.
I know we don't agree on the way Sheriff Joe is doing his job, but you have to agree that he is doing something, instead of just sitting on his hands and doing nothing
I was in Law Enforcement for 12 years and we did have to clean up some areas and you are always on the border of the law, but no matter how it is done you must walk the fence to get the job done. I don't agree with you (that's a shock, huh?). The easy and pc thing for the state to have done would have been to let this wildly popular cowboy continue as he has. It took a lot of guts for the state to finally say enuf....and what's up with your logic that as long as Arpaio is doing something, anything, it's fine? Our least fav cowboy, Bush has been 'doing something'...that's not the criteria..it's doing the right thing that counts...maybe Joe will have to cancel his res to Hondurous now.
I don't think it took guts for what the Governor did, it was political pandering plain and simple. What part of the word "illegal" doesn't the Governor understand. The right thing to do is to make sure there are no criminals (which yes that does include illegal immigrants (operative word illegal)) on the streets. It is clear that the Governor cares more about illegal immigrants than she does the citizens of the state of Arizona. What's clear is that the Gov. understands that clearing a backlog of 60,00 felony warrants is a greater priority than broken lights. You're right that it's important to remove criminals from the streets...let's see, which is a more efficient way to accomplish that: go after those deemed criminals by virue of the fact that they already have feolony warrents or set up traffic stops and hope you get lucky?
I'd do both - I'd go after those deemed criminals and I would set up traffic stops, because if you look Sheriff Joe has been successful - I believe in on sweep, there were 150 criminal apprehended (75 illegals and 75 US citizens), Joe was pretty lucky if you ask me.
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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: GEM127 wrote: sometimes rational wrote:
So there Arpaio was again..press conference time, having a hissy fit about the Gov./DPS cutting $1.6 million from him to fund a task force to go after the 60,000 felons who have active warrants out on them...Arpaio is still into his 'broken tail light' sweeps.///and remember the mayor of Guadalupe he was screaming at on TV?.....I'm sure it was just coinsidence that the mayor was stopped by a Sheriff's deputy for a broken light the other night...Probably shorty after someone in a uniform might have broken it...so, they are treating Arpaio as he deserves to be treated...no pink underwear for him, just squeeze and squeeze his budget...dictators hate that...it's sort of like an embargo...Joe is the new Cuba.
You knew I would have to respond to that quote.
It is the only way the parties with in can control him and you know yourself that we all must be controlled by the Government. Whether you feel he is doing things right or wrong, it's all about control. If you don't do things their way it's not the right way.
I know we don't agree on the way Sheriff Joe is doing his job, but you have to agree that he is doing something, instead of just sitting on his hands and doing nothing
I was in Law Enforcement for 12 years and we did have to clean up some areas and you are always on the border of the law, but no matter how it is done you must walk the fence to get the job done. I don't agree with you (that's a shock, huh?). The easy and pc thing for the state to have done would have been to let this wildly popular cowboy continue as he has. It took a lot of guts for the state to finally say enuf....and what's up with your logic that as long as Arpaio is doing something, anything, it's fine? Our least fav cowboy, Bush has been 'doing something'...that's not the criteria..it's doing the right thing that counts...maybe Joe will have to cancel his res to Hondurous now.
I don't think it took guts for what the Governor did, it was political pandering plain and simple. What part of the word "illegal" doesn't the Governor understand. The right thing to do is to make sure there are no criminals (which yes that does include illegal immigrants (operative word illegal)) on the streets. It is clear that the Governor cares more about illegal immigrants than she does the citizens of the state of Arizona. What's clear is that the Gov. understands that clearing a backlog of 60,00 felony warrants is a greater priority than broken lights. You're right that it's important to remove criminals from the streets...let's see, which is a more efficient way to accomplish that: go after those deemed criminals by virue of the fact that they already have feolony warrents or set up traffic stops and hope you get lucky?
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sometimes rational wrote: GEM127 wrote: sometimes rational wrote:
So there Arpaio was again..press conference time, having a hissy fit about the Gov./DPS cutting $1.6 million from him to fund a task force to go after the 60,000 felons who have active warrants out on them...Arpaio is still into his 'broken tail light' sweeps.///and remember the mayor of Guadalupe he was screaming at on TV?.....I'm sure it was just coinsidence that the mayor was stopped by a Sheriff's deputy for a broken light the other night...Probably shorty after someone in a uniform might have broken it...so, they are treating Arpaio as he deserves to be treated...no pink underwear for him, just squeeze and squeeze his budget...dictators hate that...it's sort of like an embargo...Joe is the new Cuba.
You knew I would have to respond to that quote.
It is the only way the parties with in can control him and you know yourself that we all must be controlled by the Government. Whether you feel he is doing things right or wrong, it's all about control. If you don't do things their way it's not the right way.
I know we don't agree on the way Sheriff Joe is doing his job, but you have to agree that he is doing something, instead of just sitting on his hands and doing nothing
I was in Law Enforcement for 12 years and we did have to clean up some areas and you are always on the border of the law, but no matter how it is done you must walk the fence to get the job done. I don't agree with you (that's a shock, huh?). The easy and pc thing for the state to have done would have been to let this wildly popular cowboy continue as he has. It took a lot of guts for the state to finally say enuf....and what's up with your logic that as long as Arpaio is doing something, anything, it's fine? Our least fav cowboy, Bush has been 'doing something'...that's not the criteria..it's doing the right thing that counts...maybe Joe will have to cancel his res to Hondurous now.
I don't think it took guts for what the Governor did, it was political pandering plain and simple. What part of the word "illegal" doesn't the Governor understand. The right thing to do is to make sure there are no criminals (which yes that does include illegal immigrants (operative word illegal)) on the streets. It is clear that the Governor cares more about illegal immigrants than she does the citizens of the state of Arizona.
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GEM127 wrote: sometimes rational wrote:
So there Arpaio was again..press conference time, having a hissy fit about the Gov./DPS cutting $1.6 million from him to fund a task force to go after the 60,000 felons who have active warrants out on them...Arpaio is still into his 'broken tail light' sweeps.///and remember the mayor of Guadalupe he was screaming at on TV?.....I'm sure it was just coinsidence that the mayor was stopped by a Sheriff's deputy for a broken light the other night...Probably shorty after someone in a uniform might have broken it...so, they are treating Arpaio as he deserves to be treated...no pink underwear for him, just squeeze and squeeze his budget...dictators hate that...it's sort of like an embargo...Joe is the new Cuba.
You knew I would have to respond to that quote.
It is the only way the parties with in can control him and you know yourself that we all must be controlled by the Government. Whether you feel he is doing things right or wrong, it's all about control. If you don't do things their way it's not the right way.
I know we don't agree on the way Sheriff Joe is doing his job, but you have to agree that he is doing something, instead of just sitting on his hands and doing nothing
I was in Law Enforcement for 12 years and we did have to clean up some areas and you are always on the border of the law, but no matter how it is done you must walk the fence to get the job done. I don't agree with you (that's a shock, huh?). The easy and pc thing for the state to have done would have been to let this wildly popular cowboy continue as he has. It took a lot of guts for the state to finally say enuf....and what's up with your logic that as long as Arpaio is doing something, anything, it's fine? Our least fav cowboy, Bush has been 'doing something'...that's not the criteria..it's doing the right thing that counts...maybe Joe will have to cancel his res to Hondurous now.
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sometimes rational wrote:
So there Arpaio was again..press conference time, having a hissy fit about the Gov./DPS cutting $1.6 million from him to fund a task force to go after the 60,000 felons who have active warrants out on them...Arpaio is still into his 'broken tail light' sweeps.///and remember the mayor of Guadalupe he was screaming at on TV?.....I'm sure it was just coinsidence that the mayor was stopped by a Sheriff's deputy for a broken tail light the other night...Probably shorty after someone in a uniform might have broken it...so, they are treating Arpaio as he deserves to be treated...no pink underwear for him, just sqeeze and sqeeze his budget...dictators hate that...it's sort of like an embargo...Joe is the new Cuba.
You knew I would have to respond to that quote.
It is the only way the parties with in can control him and you know yourself that we all must be controlled by the Government. Whether you feel he is doing things right or wrong, it's all about control. If you don't do things their way it's not the right way.
I know we don't agree on the way Sheriff Joe is doing his job, but you have to agree that he is doing something, instead of just sitting on his hands and doing nothing
I was in Law Enforcement for 12 years and we did have to clean up some areas and you are always on the border of the law, but no matter how it is done you must walk the fence to get the job done.
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So there Arpaio was again..press conference time, having a hissy fit about the Gov./DPS cutting $1.6 million from him to fund a task force to go after the 60,000 felons who have active warrants out on them...Arpaio is still into his 'broken tail light' sweeps.///and remember the mayor of Guadalupe he was screaming at on TV?.....I'm sure it was just coinsidence that the mayor was stopped by a Sheriff's deputy for a broken tail light the other night...Probably shorty after someone in a uniform might have broken it...so, they are treating Arpaio as he deserves to be treated...no pink underwear for him, just sqeeze and sqeeze his budget...dictators hate that...it's sort of like an embargo...Joe is the new Cuba.
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GEM127 wrote: You are very right SR about the money, and maybe it would stop if 1% came from Sheriff's Joe pocket. But even with all the money I think he is probably at home right now have some tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches...
I think he is pimping for an autobio movie..two books and countless articles isn't enuf for an ego the size the Rhode Island.
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| You are very right SR about the money, and maybe it would stop if 1% came from Sheriff's Joe pocket. But even with all the money I think he is probably at home right now have some tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches...
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razenkn wrote:
Since you are posting this extravaganza on this thread does that mean you are inviting Sheriff Joe???
Hey. Sunny---there is a Suprise News Forum for posting junk, I mean important events like that.
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Posted: Sat May 3rd, 2008 03:26 am |
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Since you are posting this extravaganza on this thread does that mean you are inviting Sheriff Joe???
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Posted: Sat May 3rd, 2008 02:52 am |
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THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS HAVING A YARD SALE!
“The Orchards” located in SURPRISE is having its Community Yard Sale.
Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008
Time: 7 AM -2 PM
Location of “The Orchards” Surprise Arizona
South of Bell, West of Parkview, East of Reems, North of Greenway
One address to find us use 15243 Statler Street Surprise AZ 85374
We will have signs up at all entrances to our community.
We hope this day will be a great success.
Please drive with care in our community.
Our Children will thank you.
Last edited on Sat May 3rd, 2008 02:53 am by Sunny Surprise
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 04:52 pm |
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GEM127 wrote: SR you have to remember that the Texas Air National Guard needed the Bushman to fly and patrol over Texas because you could never be sure if one of those V.C. from Vietnam came across the U.S./Mexico border.
Talk about the Peace sign being the sign of the American Chicken.
I don't mean to offend any person who really fought for the freedoms of this country. Just the pansies who did everything to get out of fighting for the countries freedom. And I am not saying I agree with Vietnam. Because I didn't, just like I don't agree with Iraq. They were both for business and nothing else.
But I can't figure out how we went from Sheriff Joe to Soldiers in Iraq? Sunny Surprise decided to compare the US troops in Iraq to illegal immigrants, which put RAZ into a hissy-fit, which required intervention, else handbags and high heels shoes were about to fly.
As far as Bushman, I made it a point to finish basic at Lackland asap to get out of Texas knowing that Bush was flying above. Now we know he actually didn't do that much flying, he sorta couldn't be found very much...OK..let's get back on Arpaio....the county settled for another $925,000 out of court judgements....don't ya think if Arpaio had to pay .01% of what his stubborness costs the county, he might act like he cares?
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 02:37 pm |
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razenkn wrote: SR, if you get some kind of personal gratification from calling me honey (TMI), then so be it, but please, you are grossing me out with your syrup, give us all a break okay....gag, honey?
If those of you who even begin to think you understand what our military has gone through, you would be so humbled with the reality I guarantee you wouldn't be on here denigrating the Commander in Chief nor anyone else who has the backbone and moral courage to actually fight against our enemy and these guys laugh at you who come out constantly with the "oh my, what are we to do with these bulllies, not the Al-Qaeda but the Bush Administration". Do you see how ridiculous you might look to our military who put their lives on the line each and every day? They aren't complaining, so why are you? You are such a bag of wimps. I have no respect for any of you. 
Fine get a backbone and catch the real terrorist in Riyadh and Kuwait City and yes wherever Bin Ladin went. Stop being a spineless wimp and keep beating on the Iraqi why they are down for the count. Your Moral leader is as hollow as his spine since he has sold us down the river to the real terrorist. 19 of the hijackers came from his buddies country and what did we do....NOTHING.... I would fully support the invasion of Saudi Arabia and see it completley conquered for what they let happen to us. Our military has been embarrassed by our leaders as usual. They are given a task to complete then a leash is put on them so as not to offend any of our real terrorist friends and now in thier greastest moment are sniped and killed by roadside bombs cause that leash is a bit tight and controled by the Saudis.. The greatest army on Earth is being bled for your amusement. Oh and dont say they are not complaining that shows your usual self denial and inability to accept your failed support of that idiot.
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 02:33 pm |
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SR you have to remember that the Texas Air National Guard needed the Bushman to fly and patrol over Texas because you could never be sure if one of those V.C. from Vietnam came across the U.S./Mexico border.
Talk about the Peace sign being the sign of the American Chicken.
I don't mean to offend any person who really fought for the freedoms of this country. Just the pansies who did everything to get out of fighting for the countries freedom. And I am not saying I agree with Vietnam. Because I didn't, just like I don't agree with Iraq. They were both for business and nothing else.
But I can't figure out how we went from Sheriff Joe to Soldiers in Iraq?Last edited on Fri May 2nd, 2008 02:34 pm by GEM127
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 05:34 am |
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razenkn wrote: SR, if you get some kind of personal gratification from calling me honey (TMI), then so be it, but please, you are grossing me out with your syrup, give us all a break okay....gag, honey?
If those of you who even begin to think you understand what our military has gone through, you would be so humbled with the reality I guarantee you wouldn't be on here denigrating the Commander in Chief nor anyone else who has the backbone and moral courage to actually fight against our enemy and these guys laugh at you who come out constantly with the "oh my, what are we to do with these bulllies, not the Al-Qaeda but the Bush Administration". Do you see how ridiculous you might look to our military who put their lives on the line each and every day? They aren't complaining, so why are you? You are such a bag of wimps. I have no respect for any of you.
Sweetiepie, you're just awesome at evading issues....the issue being the inadequate care veteran's have received returning from Iraq...Sorry if you think that denigrates the Commander in Chief, but the Commander in Chief couldn't care less about veteran's and their problems....he most recently proved that with his appearance on a game show in lieu of providing the dignity a soldier would have been affording going to the White House...next, you'll be trying to convince us that appearing on Deal or No Deal represents the highest honor this country can affford.....and you really think veteran's and their families aren't complaining?? Well, you think people live under bridges because you think they choose to so I suppose you are as clueless about veteran's needs as Bush....the same Bush one who flew over the skys of Texas in the Nat Guard while the real heros were in combat in Vietnam.
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 03:53 am |
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SR, if you get some kind of personal gratification from calling me honey (TMI), then so be it, but please, you are grossing me out with your syrup, give us all a break okay....gag, honey?
If those of you who even begin to think you understand what our military has gone through, you would be so humbled with the reality I guarantee you wouldn't be on here denigrating the Commander in Chief nor anyone else who has the backbone and moral courage to actually fight against our enemy and these guys laugh at you who come out constantly with the "oh my, what are we to do with these bulllies, not the Al-Qaeda but the Bush Administration". Do you see how ridiculous you might look to our military who put their lives on the line each and every day? They aren't complaining, so why are you? You are such a bag of wimps. I have no respect for any of you.
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 02:46 am |
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razenkn wrote:
No doubt this was meant to be an attempt to compare the plight of illegals and our fine troops as though they were in the same boat, I understand the intention was good so I apologize for the comment towards you Sunny, I only saw the comparison.
BUT THEY ARE NOT in the same boat. Our heroes walk with their heads high, with a vision and promise to uphold our freedoms and are willing to sacrafice both life and limb to do so. To compare these amazing people to those who choose to defy our laws skulking through the desert and some for less than honorable reasons is dispicable to me. You can't possibly put the two in the same breath. I guesss I'm just a little over protective when it comes to our brave and honorable men and women in uniform.
RAZ, honey, you're farrrr from over protective of our veterans when you defend their Commander in Chief who could care less that their post war care is so inadequate and they live in filthy conditions while awaiting or receiving out-pt care at Walter Reed...let me think..no, it wasn't Fox news that shamed the Bush ppl into doing the right thing, it was 60 Minutes.
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 02:42 am |
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| Ahhhhh..ya gotta love it...The three far-righties slugging it out online about who is more to the right...can't ya just get along?
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Sunny Surprise
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 07:29 pm |
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razenkn
I read your PM. No problem. The msg was to make you think and not react so fast to a final conclusion.
It was meant to initally get you angry then to read on and see the compaison to our brave emen and women.
I'm cool.
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 04:31 pm |
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No doubt this was meant to be an attempt to compare the plight of illegals and our fine troops as though they were in the same boat, I understand the intention was good so I apologize for the comment towards you Sunny, I only saw the comparison.
BUT THEY ARE NOT in the same boat. Our heroes walk with their heads high, with a vision and promise to uphold our freedoms and are willing to sacrafice both life and limb to do so. To compare these amazing people to those who choose to defy our laws skulking through the desert and some for less than honorable reasons is dispicable to me. You can't possibly put the two in the same breath. I guesss I'm just a little over protective when it comes to our brave and honorable men and women in uniform.
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 02:10 pm |
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Sunny Surprise wrote:
We need to show more sympathy for these people.
* They travel miles in the heat.
* They risk their lives crossing a border.
* They don't get paid enough wages.
* They do jobs that others won't do or are afraid to do.
* They live in crowded conditions among a people who speak a different language.
* They rarely see their families and they face adversity all day every day...
I'm not talking about illegal Mexicans,
I'm talking about our troops!
Doesn't it seem strange that many Democrats and Republicans are willing to lavish all kinds of social benefits on illegals, but don't support our troops and are now threatening to cut funding for them?
Sunny Surprise it is not so strange - The Democrats care more about illegal immigrants, both Obama and Clinton want to give them free access to our country, free health care and free education for their children. All the while we have some of our troops' families that are barely getting by. Go figure
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 06:17 am |
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razenkn wrote:
To compare the two is more than disrespectful, it is downright shameful and unforgiveable. But our heroes are in the process as we speak to ensure your right to make such low life comparisons, so lucky you Sunny, lucky you.
HUH?? Mamazoid is correct: your reading comprehension ability is toast..it was clear Sunny was making a pro-troop, anti-illegal immigrant statement...so why is a right-winger like you, dumping on her?
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 04:16 am |
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Even though I obviously dislike the analogy portion, I say thanks for supporting the troops Sunny.
I agree, there is much fault to go around on both sides of the aisle but how do we fix it?
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 03:11 am |
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| Sunny and Raz very good. Last edited on Thu May 1st, 2008 03:11 am by GEM127
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 03:00 am |
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• Sheriff Joe Arpaio "Unplugged"
This guy is amazing, we need 100's more just like him.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 06:38 pm |
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We need to show more sympathy for these people.
* They travel miles in the heat.
* They risk their lives crossing a border.
* They don't get paid enough wages.
* They do jobs that others won't do or are afraid to do.
* They live in crowded conditions among a people who speak a different language.
* They rarely see their families and they face adversity all day every day...
I'm not talking about illegal Mexicans,
I'm talking about our troops!
Doesn't it seem strange that many Democrats and Republicans are willing to lavish all kinds of social benefits on illegals, but don't support our troops and are now threatening to cut funding for them?
Last edited on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 06:40 pm by Sunny Surprise
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 02:00 pm |
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Looks like 63% of Maricopa County voters said Arpaio is doing an excellent (28%) or good (35%) job, while 37% rate him poor or very poor.
County attorney rules sheriff's sweeps are legal. Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas has ruled Sheriff Joe Arpaio's recent string of crime-suppression operations is legal, as long as sheriff's deputies follow the department's policy.
Two big reason to say: Way to go Joe!!
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 06:37 am |
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surprisemotherof2 wrote: I like Zupa Toscana at Olive Garden 
I somehow knew GEM would go against the flow...what's that saying, even a dead fish goes with the flow...onto the thread----ya see Arpaio cost us another $925,000 in two settlements? ...and the county is a hiring freeze.... When is enuf enuf?
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 05:11 am |
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| Like listening to Dwiddle Dee and Dwiddle Dumber on acid!!
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GEM127
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| Only chicken noodle when I have a cold. And Tomato with grilled cheese sandwiches. LOL
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