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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:51 pm
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max22 wrote: Ummmm...Biden will shred her to pieces...


...and look like a good ole boy A$$ trying to do it too!  Should be interesting...;) 

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 Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:44 pm
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Ummmm...Biden will shred her to pieces...

I can't see how republicans can get behind her when she said...

"What is it exactly that the VP does every day?"

Are you kidding me...?

Well...then again they got behind Bush and he is the dumbest one we have had yet...

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sometimes rational wrote: BigSurprize wrote: Running a state trumps a Senator, boyz and girlz.  It's on now and "dems" da breaks.  :DUmmm...hold it Big boy..she has been gov for less than two yrs...you think Alaska issues are typical of the rest of the country??

Oh pu-leeeze...you're gonna have to do better than that!  Can't wait to see her debate Mr. Biden.  :cool:

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BigSurprize wrote: Running a state trumps a Senator, boyz and girlz.  It's on now and "dems" da breaks.  :DUmmm...hold it Big boy..she has been gov for less than two yrs...you think Alaska issues are typical of the rest of the country??

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max22 wrote: Wow...was I just watching a SNL skit...? Invoking 9/11 and the POW card...good grief...

Palin...?

Hey raz...what about her expierence...? What do you have to say about that...?
Double wow!!!  McCain is either totally out of his mind, doesn't really want to be Pres.,  or has demonstrated that he doesn't have any   judgment at all left...did Paulin really think American would get excited that her hubby won a big snowmobile race somewhere????  Or that she was a runner up for Ms. Alaska...or that she was a sports anchor on Alaska TV????  This chick makes Dan Quayle seem intellectual.  I suppose she'll draw some of the one issue voters...but, seriously, folks, you can see her in the Oval Office if McCain were to get elected and become debilitated?????  Nerver, ever, ever, during this election campaign did the Obama/Biden ticket seem more perfect.

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Running a state trumps a Senator, boyz and girlz.  It's on now and "dems" da breaks.  :D

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dwig222 wrote: If McCain gets elected a lot of people will be moving to another country.   

Oh, and you don't think there will be a long, long line of people ready to jump off of the Chase building if Oooohhhbama gets elected??

Go ask your friends in SCG who they're going to vote for. I guarantee you'll hear MCCAIN.

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Wow...was I just watching a SNL skit...? Invoking 9/11 and the POW card...good grief...

Palin...?

Hey raz...what about her expierence...? What do you have to say about that...?

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What a shame Mccain picks a running mate who comes from a state rich with oil money and she was mayor of a town full of white people.  He thinks she will draw women voters to his side and I hope he realizes that was a shallow attempt to win votes and by putting our nation at risk with such a weak and inexperienced candidate.  Plus I saw where Mccain wasnt even born in the United States so why is he running for President?:?

OK her speech is over and she pretty much said I have no experience, I support war and 4 more years of Bush.:X  I am a women so I am here to try a ride on Hillary's coat tails.  I bring nothing to this table other than a way to try and win the election at the cost of our nation.  Oh an I will milk the fact I  have a kid going to war.:X   WEAK...

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Did he just write that speech this morning??  He read it off index cards like a fifth grade student.  I felt like I was watching my grandson practice his homework assignment.  He couldn't even make it through one sentence without looking down.  Where was the passion?  Where was the emotion? 

 

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VOTE FOR CHANGE





 





McCain picks Palin as running mate
Alaska governor to be first female Republican VP nominee













Vote McCain - Palin

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I recognize Raz and Deuce ,  but who are the others?

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So she's a young journalist with five children, a bachelors degree from an unprestigious college, AND baggage?  :shock::shock:   If McCain gets elected a lot of people will be moving to another country.   

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dwig222 wrote: So what does Palin bring to the ticket Raz?

Apparently she brings a legislative investigation with her!  This investigation began what , last month?  Here we go:

"to find out whether Palin dismissed Monegan for not firing an Alaska State Trooper who went through a messy divorce with Palin's sister. "

I guess Obama is right, McSame doesn't have the judgment or temperament to be the leader of our country.

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So what does Palin bring to the ticket Raz?

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I have outlined many times on here why I think President Bush is a good President, nothing has changed my opinion on that.  Everyone conveniently forgets the hand he was dealt with 9-11 and to think we survived that economically with no further attacks we have only GWB to thank for that.

By the way, there is positive news this week NOT being reported on the economy, our growth this last quarter is 3.3% and our unemployment is still low.  Why don't we hear the good stuff I wonder??  Sorry folks, no recession again.  I know that is a blow to the liberals and the war in Iraq has been won, don't hear about that either, go figure.  But to listen to Obambi last night, you would have thought we were all going into food lines next week.  And everybody has tears in their eyes going yeah, yeah, I'm a victim.....Give me a flippin break.

And, I will say once more even though this thread isn't about Bush but since you asked, I have disagreed with him on many, many things.  I just don't get down in the gutter and call him vile names when I don't like his policies or decisions so therefore I must give him a pass on everything?? No. :cool:

 

 

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Well he called McCain out and said the gloves are off. So let's see next week what McCain has to say in response.

RAZ; You have said many times on here that Bush is our President and he is doing a great job. And you have backed him to the hilt no matter what he does. Is it because he a Republician or do you honestly believe what he is doing is good for America.

Maybe O'Bama is telling the American people everything they want to hear but what is wrong with that. America has to rally together or there will be a war in this country that will make 1776 look like a child's game on X-Box.

Oh, by the way. I was one of those steel workers O'Bama talked about, so I know first hand what those people went through.

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razenkn wrote:  I for one don't like it.
 


So I suppose you like sending billions and billions of dollars to rebuild Iraq because Bush told a little white lie? 

 

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Palin?? :shock::shock:  Three years ago she was the mayor of a hick town in Alaska!  Are you kidding me?  How irresponsible is that?  With that old man, chances are pretty high he'll never make it through four years.   What does she bring to the ticket.   She's just a crap shoot that he'll get some women to vote for him.   She's certainly not ready to be the Comander in Chief.   Obviously getting elected is more important than doing what is right for his country.  I guess he couldn't buy the election with all his money so he picked a pawn to attract women.   It's so irresponsible! :X 

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GEM127 wrote: I thought last nights DNC was very enlighten ! It was a very strong speak that sent a very strong message to all politicians not just McCain. I think you just heard from the new President of the United States.
Then you didn't listen to the ending.  He did a great job again, trying to convince us all he is "AMERICAN", his grandparents roots in Kansas, his Mom worked while going to school, how he and Michelle had student loans (which Michelle really resented in her speeches), how his grandad went to college on the GI bill picking himself up by the bootstraps and became successful, and how his grandma went from a secretary to a VP of a bank without schooling.  All very nice touchy feely stuff.  (I still think its sad we have a guy wanting to be President of our country and is still trying to convince us he is "American").  Anyway, all stuff that American's are made of right?  A great story line of who we are and why we are.

Then at the end, he says - HE DOESN'T WANT ANY OF US TO HAVE TO DO THAT, HE THINKS THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO IT FOR US!!! He doesn't think we as American's should have to do that hard work. WHAT??:shock::shock::shock:

He lost me right there and then.  Can anyone spell S.O.C.I.A.L.I.S.M.????  Between the pie in the sky Universal Health Care system he is proposing that is impossible to fund - we have 300 million people, can't be done nor should it, and pay for our education, the government would own us lock, stock, and barrel.  Is that what you people really want?  What's next, is he going to say how many kids we should have???  Sound at all familiar???:X:cool:  Now we truly know without question what the CHANGE is.  I for one don't like it.

 

 

 

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I thought last nights DNC was very enlighten ! It was a very strong speech that sent a very strong message to all politicians not just McCain. I think you just heard from the new President of the United States.

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surprisemotherof2 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: Does it really matter what the origins of his name is - here is what wikianswers says, the origins could be one of many:

"Barack" is a word that is shared among several languages. First, it is a word in the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages) Semitic family of languages. As such it has a root in Hebrew (but written baruch), a version in Aramaic (berek), a version in Arabic (baraka). (See Strong's Hebrew Bible Dictionary, entries 1288-1294.) It also occurs as a loan word in non-Semitic languages that have been influenced by these Semitic languages. As often happens, cognate words are similar in pronunciation. What appears in a later-appearing language may sound like something else in the earlier language. And in English we sometimes see words that are pronounced the same and even spelled the same, but that have very different meanings.

Barack or Barak means 'lightning' in Hebrew. The name Barak is also mentioned in the Bible in the book of Judges. Barak was part of the story of the prophetess Deborah.

Baruch (or Baruwk, Baruk, Strong, 1263) and its cognates berek and baraka all mean the same. Strong, 1288, says "barak, baw-rak', a primitive root; to kneel; by implication to bless God (as an act of adoration), and (vice-versa) man (as a benefit)." (See http://www.virtualchristiancenter.com/biblestudytools/kjvstrongs/STRHEB12.htm)

Regardless of how one spells the name, it gives two possible and not contradictory meanings. One is "a blessing from God," and another is "a blessing from God that the individual may pass on to others as a benefit to them." (The second meaning is very clear in the Sufi tradition in which the searcher for Allah, or as Jesus would have called Him Alaha, receives from his or her teacher a transmission of some key to seeing what Meister Eckhard called the "divine spark" within each of us. )

If you pray to Allah you may choose to call your child Barak. If you pray to Alaha you may choose to call your child Berek. If you think you are praying to different gods or bestowing names with different meanings you may benefit from further study.



Instead of worrying where his name cames from, you should be looking into what he has or has not done and what damage he will do to the United States.
Who cares what the derivation of his name is??? He has a plan for America to get us off the road to disaster Bush has put us on...(I suppose the name 'George' gives you warmth and light).  He will surround himself with the best minds he can find.   McCain would surround himself with 'yes' men stuck in the past and committed to Republican failed policies.   Call him, Barack, Barry--it doesn't matter..what does matter is that we call him President Obama in January. 

 

I guess you didn't read my post - I'll say it again, but a little larger so you can see it:  Does it really matter what the origins of his name is - here is what wikianswers says, the origins could be one of many.  It just amazes me how you Democrats can't understand the written word - maybe that is why you are fooled by Obama.  If I were you, I would be more concerned on how Obama is going to come through on all his promises - it is obvious that he is too inexperience and doesn't have a clue.



The fact that you are quoting wiki tells me you are willing to believe anything. 

It doesn't matter what origin his name is, it is the man not the name but a lot of people want to try to blow smoke and try to make a "big election over small ideas"


I quoted it because it shows that the name is from many different origins, including Hebrew - And you are correct as I have said and will say again in another one of my statements from the above post (Instead of worrying where his name cames from, you should be looking into what he has or has not done and what damage he will do to the United States) it doesn't matter.  Again, is there something in the koolaid that you Democrats drank that did something to your reading abilities.

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Jimmy Carter was one of the worst Presidents we ever had! I have never heard

a former President of the U.S. speak so badly about a current President! No respect.

Jimmy has a short memory, the country had hostages in Iran, gas lines a mile long

and interest rates close to 20%.  People couldn't afford loans for cars or homes.

He has nerve bashing Bush!

 

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He acts like he is the only POW in American History. 

 

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I can't believe that one Democrat would stoop so low.  I use to have a lot of respect for Jimmy Carter.  (1) because he was President of the United States (not that he did a good job because he was far from it, but because he was President) and (2) because of his humanitarian efforts, but now he has gone way down on my list for his personal attack ethics.  For him to say that John McCain is milking his POW experience is ludicrous.  Whether you like McCain or not is not the issue, he served this country and endured tremendous torture and to say that - lowest of the low.  Plus, wasn't it Jimmy Carter that use going to Annapolis in his campaign over and over and over.   
 

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cindisue_g wrote: sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: Does it really matter what the origins of his name is - here is what wikianswers says, the origins could be one of many:

"Barack" is a word that is shared among several languages. First, it is a word in the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages) Semitic family of languages. As such it has a root in Hebrew (but written baruch), a version in Aramaic (berek), a version in Arabic (baraka). (See Strong's Hebrew Bible Dictionary, entries 1288-1294.) It also occurs as a loan word in non-Semitic languages that have been influenced by these Semitic languages. As often happens, cognate words are similar in pronunciation. What appears in a later-appearing language may sound like something else in the earlier language. And in English we sometimes see words that are pronounced the same and even spelled the same, but that have very different meanings.

Barack or Barak means 'lightning' in Hebrew. The name Barak is also mentioned in the Bible in the book of Judges. Barak was part of the story of the prophetess Deborah.

Baruch (or Baruwk, Baruk, Strong, 1263) and its cognates berek and baraka all mean the same. Strong, 1288, says "barak, baw-rak', a primitive root; to kneel; by implication to bless God (as an act of adoration), and (vice-versa) man (as a benefit)." (See http://www.virtualchristiancenter.com/biblestudytools/kjvstrongs/STRHEB12.htm)

Regardless of how one spells the name, it gives two possible and not contradictory meanings. One is "a blessing from God," and another is "a blessing from God that the individual may pass on to others as a benefit to them." (The second meaning is very clear in the Sufi tradition in which the searcher for Allah, or as Jesus would have called Him Alaha, receives from his or her teacher a transmission of some key to seeing what Meister Eckhard called the "divine spark" within each of us. )

If you pray to Allah you may choose to call your child Barak. If you pray to Alaha you may choose to call your child Berek. If you think you are praying to different gods or bestowing names with different meanings you may benefit from further study.



Instead of worrying where his name cames from, you should be looking into what he has or has not done and what damage he will do to the United States.
Who cares what the derivation of his name is??? He has a plan for America to get us off the road to disaster Bush has put us on...(I suppose the name 'George' gives you warmth and light).  He will surround himself with the best minds he can find.   McCain would surround himself with 'yes' men stuck in the past and committed to Republican failed policies.   Call him, Barack, Barry--it doesn't matter..what does matter is that we call him President Obama in January. 

 

I guess you didn't read my post - I'll say it again, but a little larger so you can see it:  Does it really matter what the origins of his name is - here is what wikianswers says, the origins could be one of many.  It just amazes me how you Democrats can't understand the written word - maybe that is why you are fooled by Obama.  If I were you, I would be more concerned on how Obama is going to come through on all his promises - it is obvious that he is too inexperience and doesn't have a clue.



The fact that you are quoting wiki tells me you are willing to believe anything. 

It doesn't matter what origin his name is, it is the man not the name but a lot of people want to try to blow smoke and try to make a "big election over small ideas"

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sometimes rational wrote: cindisue_g wrote: Does it really matter what the origins of his name is - here is what wikianswers says, the origins could be one of many:

"Barack" is a word that is shared among several languages. First, it is a word in the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages) Semitic family of languages. As such it has a root in Hebrew (but written baruch), a version in Aramaic (berek), a version in Arabic (baraka). (See Strong's Hebrew Bible Dictionary, entries 1288-1294.) It also occurs as a loan word in non-Semitic languages that have been influenced by these Semitic languages. As often happens, cognate words are similar in pronunciation. What appears in a later-appearing language may sound like something else in the earlier language. And in English we sometimes see words that are pronounced the same and even spelled the same, but that have very different meanings.

Barack or Barak means 'lightning' in Hebrew. The name Barak is also mentioned in the Bible in the book of Judges. Barak was part of the story of the prophetess Deborah.

Baruch (or Baruwk, Baruk, Strong, 1263) and its cognates berek and baraka all mean the same. Strong, 1288, says "barak, baw-rak', a primitive root; to kneel; by implication to bless God (as an act of adoration), and (vice-versa) man (as a benefit)." (See http://www.virtualchristiancenter.com/biblestudytools/kjvstrongs/STRHEB12.htm)

Regardless of how one spells the name, it gives two possible and not contradictory meanings. One is "a blessing from God," and another is "a blessing from God that the individual may pass on to others as a benefit to them." (The second meaning is very clear in the Sufi tradition in which the searcher for Allah, or as Jesus would have called Him Alaha, receives from his or her teacher a transmission of some key to seeing what Meister Eckhard called the "divine spark" within each of us. )

If you pray to Allah you may choose to call your child Barak. If you pray to Alaha you may choose to call your child Berek. If you think you are praying to different gods or bestowing names with different meanings you may benefit from further study.



Instead of worrying where his name cames from, you should be looking into what he has or has not done and what damage he will do to the United States.
Who cares what the derivation of his name is??? He has a plan for America to get us off the road to disaster Bush has put us on...(I suppose the name 'George' gives you warmth and light).  He will surround himself with the best minds he can find.   McCain would surround himself with 'yes' men stuck in the past and committed to Republican failed policies.   Call him, Barack, Barry--it doesn't matter..what does matter is that we call him President Obama in January. 

 

I guess you didn't read my post - I'll say it again, but a little larger so you can see it:  Does it really matter what the origins of his name is - here is what wikianswers says, the origins could be one of many.  It just amazes me how you Democrats can't understand the written word - maybe that is why you are fooled by Obama.  If I were you, I would be more concerned on how Obama is going to come through on all his promises - it is obvious that he is too inexperience and doesn't have a clue.

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what a great speech...a home run for sure...

I find it funny that the righties around here are trying to ruin it with the same ol lame tactics...tabloid gossip from the right wing blabbosphere...

give it a rest you guys...your party is done...Bush and the other criminals have ruined it for you...wake up and realize that you have been conned by a bunch of criminals...

I say congrats to Obama for a great speech...

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Who is "RAZ" and why do you keep calling me names?

 

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scarysurprise wrote: surprisemotherof2 wrote: Tonight was incredible!  Definetly a grand slam!

Incredible?? How??

I find it appalling the amount of people who are buying into Obama's b.s. Please help me understand. So full of promises and goals, but he has NO clue how he would accomplish any of them. He offered no explanations whatsoever.

And to denegrate McCain's service to this country? Now that's just despicable!

We were listening to different shows, RAZ, hon...and how was McCain's service denegrated?  Ya mean like Rove did to Kerry?  Plus ya did say McCain was too old to be President, hon.

 

 

 

 

 

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cindisue_g wrote: Does it really matter what the origins of his name is - here is what wikianswers says, the origins could be one of many:

"Barack" is a word that is shared among several languages. First, it is a word in the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages) Semitic family of languages. As such it has a root in Hebrew (but written baruch), a version in Aramaic (berek), a version in Arabic (baraka). (See Strong's Hebrew Bible Dictionary, entries 1288-1294.) It also occurs as a loan word in non-Semitic languages that have been influenced by these Semitic languages. As often happens, cognate words are similar in pronunciation. What appears in a later-appearing language may sound like something else in the earlier language. And in English we sometimes see words that are pronounced the same and even spelled the same, but that have very different meanings.

Barack or Barak means 'lightning' in Hebrew. The name Barak is also mentioned in the Bible in the book of Judges. Barak was part of the story of the prophetess Deborah.

Baruch (or Baruwk, Baruk, Strong, 1263) and its cognates berek and baraka all mean the same. Strong, 1288, says "barak, baw-rak', a primitive root; to kneel; by implication to bless God (as an act of adoration), and (vice-versa) man (as a benefit)." (See http://www.virtualchristiancenter.com/biblestudytools/kjvstrongs/STRHEB12.htm)

Regardless of how one spells the name, it gives two possible and not contradictory meanings. One is "a blessing from God," and another is "a blessing from God that the individual may pass on to others as a benefit to them." (The second meaning is very clear in the Sufi tradition in which the searcher for Allah, or as Jesus would have called Him Alaha, receives from his or her teacher a transmission of some key to seeing what Meister Eckhard called the "divine spark" within each of us. )

If you pray to Allah you may choose to call your child Barak. If you pray to Alaha you may choose to call your child Berek. If you think you are praying to different gods or bestowing names with different meanings you may benefit from further study.



Instead of worrying where his name cames from, you should be looking into what he has or has not done and what damage he will do to the United States.
Who cares what the derivation of his name is??? He has a plan for America to get us off the road to disaster Bush has put us on...(I suppose the name 'George' gives you warmth and light).  He will surround himself with the best minds he can find.   McCain would surround himself with 'yes' men stuck in the past and committed to Republican failed policies.   Call him, Barack, Barry--it doesn't matter..what does matter is that we call him President Obama in January. 

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surprisemotherof2 wrote: Tonight was incredible!  Definetly a grand slam!

Incredible?? How??

I find it appalling the amount of people who are buying into Obama's b.s. Please help me understand. So full of promises and goals, but he has NO clue how he would accomplish any of them. He offered no explanations whatsoever.

And to denegrate McCain's service to this country? Now that's just despicable!

 

 

 

 

 

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After watching Hillary Clinton's rallying support for Obama, I was reminded of something she had once said in an interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BDqbPs27As

Very inspirational and enlightening. :)

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Does it really matter what the origins of his name is - here is what wikianswers says, the origins could be one of many:

"Barack" is a word that is shared among several languages. First, it is a word in the (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages) Semitic family of languages. As such it has a root in Hebrew (but written baruch), a version in Aramaic (berek), a version in Arabic (baraka). (See Strong's Hebrew Bible Dictionary, entries 1288-1294.) It also occurs as a loan word in non-Semitic languages that have been influenced by these Semitic languages. As often happens, cognate words are similar in pronunciation. What appears in a later-appearing language may sound like something else in the earlier language. And in English we sometimes see words that are pronounced the same and even spelled the same, but that have very different meanings.

Barack or Barak means 'lightning' in Hebrew. The name Barak is also mentioned in the Bible in the book of Judges. Barak was part of the story of the prophetess Deborah.

Baruch (or Baruwk, Baruk, Strong, 1263) and its cognates berek and baraka all mean the same. Strong, 1288, says "barak, baw-rak', a primitive root; to kneel; by implication to bless God (as an act of adoration), and (vice-versa) man (as a benefit)." (See http://www.virtualchristiancenter.com/biblestudytools/kjvstrongs/STRHEB12.htm)

Regardless of how one spells the name, it gives two possible and not contradictory meanings. One is "a blessing from God," and another is "a blessing from God that the individual may pass on to others as a benefit to them." (The second meaning is very clear in the Sufi tradition in which the searcher for Allah, or as Jesus would have called Him Alaha, receives from his or her teacher a transmission of some key to seeing what Meister Eckhard called the "divine spark" within each of us. )

If you pray to Allah you may choose to call your child Barak. If you pray to Alaha you may choose to call your child Berek. If you think you are praying to different gods or bestowing names with different meanings you may benefit from further study.



Instead of worrying where his name cames from, you should be looking into what he has or has not done and what damage he will do to the United States.

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surprisemotherof2 wrote: BB35 wrote: Who is Obambi????   Check this out...

http://www.rense.com/general83/lah.htm

Oh here come the people to try to smear Obama with lies because they can't handle the truth.  How typical...  You will not ruin this great night though with your lies.   Among your many lies is you stating that his name is not African, which I don't know why that matters to you but anyway, yes his name is African.  And while we are talking about his name, I believe that many Americans will also name their child Barack now, after a great American President.
BARACK
  • The meaning of the name Barack is Blessed
  • The origin of the name Barack is African
 

Whats even funnier SM2 is they blast him for being Arabic when what, 1/2 the countries of Africa are Muslim nations.  So inter-mingling was quite common.  They say he has experience in the Middle East due to his learning the Koran in Indoniesa which are islands in Asia.  Our local geography wizard needs a map

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BB35 wrote: Who is Obambi????   Check this out...

http://www.rense.com/general83/lah.htm

Oh here come the people to try to smear Obama with lies because they can't handle the truth.  How typical...  You will not ruin this great night though with your lies.   Among your many lies is you stating that his name is not African, which I don't know why that matters to you but anyway, yes his name is African.  And while we are talking about his name, I believe that many Americans will also name their child Barack now, after a great American President.
BARACK
  • The meaning of the name Barack is Blessed
  • The origin of the name Barack is African
 

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sometimes rational wrote: Craig wrote: When the republicans kill more soldiers than you leftist liberals have killed babies then we can talk. Sell your soul if you want.
You really believe Republicans never have abortions?

Its not about right or left SR its about world domination under one religion.  My religion is right yours is wrong and I will deny you your rights or freedoms.  If you look at the religious conservative platform they scream for freedom but will deny others who dont fit their mold and cry morality.  Then ad sneaky little topics to take away your rights here and there so eventually they will control you. 

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BB35 wrote: Who is Obambi????   Check this out...

http://www.rense.com/general83/lah.htm
Fake quotes with fake responses..Rush must be so proud.

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Who is Obambi????   Check this out...

http://www.rense.com/general83/lah.htm

Check out the next link. Veryyyyy interesting..

http://www.daily.pk/world/84-worldnews/6726-barack-obama-is-not-a-us-citizen.html

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Craig wrote: When the republicans kill more soldiers than you leftist liberals have killed babies then we can talk. Sell your soul if you want.
You really believe Republicans never have abortions?

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This is more than disturbing, another case of the liberal far left extremists trying to stifle free speech.  I am beginning to get concerned, actually really concerned.  At first it was like a flea floating around your head, now it's like a wasp trying to cause you extreme pain.  Since when does a political candidate go after a news reporter with such vengeance unless there is some serious truth that he doesn't want exposed?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-obama-wgn,0,3744149.htmlstory

Or worse yet... read this....

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/08/27/obamas-mentors/:shock::shock::cool:


 

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Tonight was incredible!  Definetly a grand slam!

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Craig wrote: I watched Obama tonight and right at the end when he said, sure we dont agree on abortion but cant we at least agree on a womans right to choose. That was the most ignorant thing i think i have heard in quite a while. Doesnt he know its the same thing.
You can vote for obama and maybe have percieved clinton like prosperity but just remember what you have to trade for it . His campaign is about a fair shot for all, well except for the unborn that they will choose to kill before they get a shot. Gay marriage ( that one is really going to blow up in your faces.) and not so illegal immigration. What is it worth to you? The thing i just cant seem to get is he's for killing babies but he routinley tries to indicate some how believes in God, talks about faith. The 2 can not co exist.
Craig: Just a few points..I know prochoice issues and gay rights are hard for you BUT for most Americans of both parties, the biggies are the economy, the war, and healthcare...so you might want to consider those issues as well....also, I guess you didn't hear Obama tonight when he said that even tho we may disagree about abortion, we should agree that we should look at preventing unwanted pregnancies...hard to argue with that logic, my man.   Otherwise, you're about to pick a candidate based on just one or two issues...also..McCain has been prochoice..you will not be able to avoid that in the President regardless of who wins..at least Obama is honest about it..McCain changes his position to suit his audience. unpredictable..totally.

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The Martin Luther King salute was beautiful and brought a tear to my eye.  I would have loved to see what that man could have brought to our great country but his life was cut short. MLK makes Obambi look like a marshmellow. He would have probably been a President by now because he never played the role of victimhood.  However, this may surprise many of you, not me, but some.....:shock:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16500

 

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When the republicans kill more soldiers than you leftist liberals have killed babies then we can talk. Sell your soul if you want.

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dwig222 wrote: Grand Slam home run.  No more Mr. Nice Guy.  :P:PHe's still a nice guy.  Notice all the new posters here with different screen names?  Not sure how RAZ can keep all her identities  straight....anyway what I liked was Obama's challenge to the McCain supporters to stop acting desperate and at least try to deal with issues rather flag waving and spreading moronic rumors.  Listening to those former Republicans, just average Americans,  who turned into Obama supporters was an awesome experience.... Anyone happy with the Bush years, really happy with the unjustified war and subsequent American deaths, really happy with our unstable economy, and collapsing financial system should vote for McCain...but hopefully a good number of those 28% of Bush lovers will come to their senses before Nov.4.
The Repubby convention should provide us with a good opportunity...to nap...the Republican candidate Republicans can't stand..that will look interesting on their bumper stickers.

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I watched Obama tonight and right at the end when he said, sure we dont agree on abortion but cant we at least agree on a womans right to choose. That was the most ignorant thing i think i have heard in quite a while. Doesnt he know its the same thing.
You can vote for obama and maybe have percieved clinton like prosperity but just remember what you have to trade for it . His campaign is about a fair shot for all, well except for the unborn that they will choose to kill before they get a shot. Gay marriage ( that one is really going to blow up in your faces.) and not so illegal immigration. What is it worth to you? The thing i just cant seem to get is he's for killing babies but he routinley tries to indicate some how believes in God, talks about faith. The 2 can not co exist.