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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 03:04 pm |
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GEM127 wrote: Very nice job everyone.
I hope the town will look very nice for the Gay Pride Day and Parade in Surprise later this month. 
Are you serious? Where and when is this happening?
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 04:53 am |
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Luci wrote...
Ok so you just made the same comparison about Doc and feel fine in saying it? I didnt know really what the mayor did in real estate but thanks to you a major red flag went up when you gave me the details of that. Now nobody would ever admit to wrong doings there Raz that was a plain stupid thing to say. Now though someone could get huge free advertising under the guise of city business since we are trying to bring residents and business to the city. Wow that is the funniest thing from you I have read yet. Open mouth insert foot....   
Oh and the mayor was here during the last council just a different department so that makes him fair game since he was involved in city activity then. Find a new mantra for that..
I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say. My guess is that it doesn't matter. Mayor Truitt is not on the Foreclosure committee so what is your point? Look Luci, You can think as untowardly about these guys as you like, free country, your choice, but it really doesn't do anything to advance our City and quite frankly I think it is shameful, but enough said. You think what you want, whatever the heck it is, and I will do the same.
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Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 01:45 am |
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Very nice job everyone.
I hope the town will look very nice for the Gay Pride Day and Parade in Surprise later this month. 
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 10:35 pm |
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mike woodard wrote: .I participated in the Surprise Pride Day event today and I was very impressed with not only the number of people who turned out, but the results. It is really something to pull up to a home that looks like a weed infested, overgrown dang near dead disaster, have 6 to 8 people jump out of cars and trucks and go to work, weeding, trimming trees, shrubs, lawns and spraying weeds, raking it all up and in about a half hour you wouldn't believe it was the same house. It was purely awesome to see and be a part of, this was my first but certainly not my last.
thank you for your support and I am sure sweat today to our community. 3 1/2 years and it will be your time to run 
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 10:30 pm |
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razenkn wrote:
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Is this supposed to be the role of this committee? Local government does not as a rule get involved in personal finances with its residents. I was under the impression this was more about assessing the amount of foreclosed homes and trying to assist HOA's in protecting the properties and keeping the neighborhoods from becoming an eyesore or worse. Do you know Mike? 
I do agree Raz, to my knowledge that is the purpose of the committee plus researching alternatives to prevent foreclosure, it did not and does not include any form of city bail-out for individuals. Yes, it could be that since Doc has established a business related to foreclosures that his participation on the committee could become a conflict, but at the same time, it could also become one of the resources for the committee.
I participated in the Surprise Pride Day event today and I was very impressed with not only the number of people who turned out, but the results. It is really something to pull up to a home that looks like a weed infested, overgrown dang near dead disaster, have 6 to 8 people jump out of cars and trucks and go to work, weeding, trimming trees, shrubs, lawns and spraying weeds, raking it all up and in about a half hour you wouldn't believe it was the same house. It was purely awesome to see and be a part of, this was my first but certainly not my last. I should add it was great to see, Mayor Truitt, Councilman Alton, Councilman Williams, Police Chief Daniel Hughes, Ass't City Manager Kathy Rice, Rich Williams, the police and fire department off duty personnel. No wonder our city is upward bound with leadership like that willing to get their hands dirty, and build up a whole lot of sweat equity in making our neighborhoods look good.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 09:27 pm |
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That is just dumb Luci. When Mayor Truitt came aboard I don't believe I ever heard him say it was so he could use his business to "help" people, his business had nothing to do with becoming Mayor. What a silly comparison. Besides that, his real estate business is primarily a relocation based business helping those from out of state or country to relocate in Surprise into existing homes. That does sound very shady indeed. Why is it whenever the posts become about any of the last councilmembers, you people always feel the need to try to turn it around on the current council? These guys are the harest working council we've seen in a long time and they don't do anything self serving so why would you even say something so disrespectful? 
Ok so you just made the same comparison about Doc and feel fine in saying it? I didnt know really what the mayor did in real estate but thanks to you a major red flag went up when you gave me the details of that. Now nobody would ever admit to wrong doings there Raz that was a plain stupid thing to say. Now though someone could get huge free advertising under the guise of city business since we are trying to bring residents and business to the city. Wow that is the funniest thing from you I have read yet. Open mouth insert foot....   
Oh and the mayor was here during the last council just a different department so that makes him fair game since he was involved in city activity then. Find a new mantra for that..
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 09:11 pm |
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That is just dumb Luci. When Mayor Truitt came aboard I don't believe I ever heard him say it was so he could use his business to "help" people, his business had nothing to do with becoming Mayor. What a silly comparison. Besides that, his real estate business is primarily a relocation based business helping those from out of state or country to relocate in Surprise into existing homes. That does sound very shady indeed. Why is it whenever the posts become about any of the last councilmembers, you people always feel the need to try to turn it around on the current council? These guys are the harest working council we've seen in a long time and they don't do anything self serving so why would you even say something so disrespectful? 
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 08:58 pm |
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You know I have not asked Doc on this, but it seems the commercial started after the committee was formed. I am not sure and if anyone could clarify it would be interesting to see. As for conflict of interest the mayor probably has the biggest conflict running with his (hopefully) former career. Having the ability to deal with builders and approve developments and select who is coming in and where could be a sweet deal. Now I am not saying he is doing that but the wonder could always be there. Look at the real estate agency that stepped in for the quiet-zone meeting. That is still fishy to me and was there any connection with city hall on that? 
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 08:47 pm |
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Dwigg, maybe I can help you out here. New business equals new phone number. Get it? Answering service for new business. If the program was explained with every phone call, no need for a seminar. Get It? I just called 411 and asked for a new listing in Surprise for a Gary Sullivan. Was given the number you listed. Duh!
We were told the reason the first seminar had a 'fee' was so only the people that were serious about getting help would reserve a spot. It worked. They plan to have a free seminar every month.
Like Mike Woodard stated earlier, the fee is very reasonable. In fact, the lion's share of the fee is due only if Doc is successful.
I hope this helps you Dwigg.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 07:40 pm |
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Why do you feel the need to yell? Does it make you that mad that some of us just don't buy into this. Especially after reading the entire thread. Does this sound like a deal someone would be foolish enough to get involved with?
Despite the $25 to get in ($40/couple), you do get a "free" lunch. Call Jerman Armendariz at 623-236-9476 to reserve a seat or two.
I asked for Jerman and was told they have no idea who that is. The person I spoke to is just taking reservations. Doesn't have details.
Interesting. That phone number is listed for Jerman
Oh, they DO NOT take credit cards it is cash at the door at time of check-in.
The young lady at check-in explained there would be no charge for the seminar.
Private money.
And his fee schedule isn't going to make him rich. He's satisfied with helping people in need.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 07:39 pm |
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Well, I wouldn't presume to say if Doc's business is helpful or not because I have nothing to base that judgment upon. I was merely pointing out the City connection, I could care less what he does in his personal endeavors, in fact I wish him well.
My concern was and still is the fact he is trying to involve himself in a committee that would be beneficial to his business and I see a huge conflict of interest there. What if one of the people that the committee was trying to assist went to Doc as a committee member for help and were unsatisfied with the results, then it becomes the fault of the City and rightfully so. Therefore I believe the committee selection group did the right thing in rejecting his offer to be involved.
Nothing personal about this. That is just common sense.
Is this supposed to be the role of this committee? Local government does not as a rule get involved in personal finances with its residents. I was under the impression this was more about assessing the amount of foreclosed homes and trying to assist HOA's in protecting the properties and keeping the neighborhoods from becoming an eyesore or worse. Do you know Mike? 
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 06:56 pm |
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Clearly some of you have had a longer relationship with Doc, than my wife and I have. Our situation was one of this. Honeywell sent my job out of the country. I have spent the last 7 months trying to find a job that would replace my previous income. I have looked and looked and still can not find a job. Of the few interviews I have been granted, the end result is I am “over qualified” My wife and I did not by a home out of our price range, but rather a home that we planned on living in till we retired. I planned on working at Honeywell for the same length. And again, this program saved us greatly. Now till I find another job, I can at least afford to pay our mortgage. Also, we did not pay a fee for this service or for the initial meeting. We would have though in a heart beat. It is a great, great program.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 06:17 pm |
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I also wondered about Doc's new endeavor in helping homeowners facing foreclosure. I talked with him maybe 6 weeks ago on the phone when I was gathering info on reverse mortgages, and he told me a bit about what he was doing and then the ad for the "Loan Doctor" came out and I called to see if he was the "doctor". He was, so we arranged to have breakfast, no I didn't need his help with my mortgage, but just wanted to see what it was all about. What Doc does is help the borrower and lender get together to help both parties, the borrower can't make the payments, the lender isn't in the real estate business and looses money if it has to sell the home cheap to get it off the books.
Doc just helps by negotiating affordable payments between the two, based on an analysis of the the two parties. Sort of an arbitrator, and turns a lose/lose situation into a win/win. If he can bring in a little income so be it, his fee structure sounded fair to me. And it sounds as though he has some very satisfied homeowners. It's been a long, long time for me but I imagine that all of us have been down and seemingly out of options at some point in life. If Doc can help thats a plus isn't it?
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 05:09 pm |
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| dwig222, you are absolutely correct (scary that we agree on this one). Doesn't it make you wonder why no one else has come up with the magic fix. Doesn't it make you wonder why the city does not want Doc on a committee with his magic pill? Doesn't it make you wonder why it is "cash only" (how many legitimate companies do you know that are "cash only")? The company is in it for one reason and one reason only - to make money, don't fool yourself. I have a feeling these 20 folks bought a pig in a poke and in a few years they will be asking us to bail them out of this scheme. And what I say, if anyone is foolish enough to buy into the scheme, they get what they deserve. What is the other saying - there is a sucker born everyday!
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 03:04 pm |
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It's very rare for me to agree with Raz or Cindi, but if Doc had the "magic wand" that would help these people, he would be a millionaire. Instead he is peddling his services on a discussion forum where he shouldn't even be allowed. And, he takes out a confidential ad with a phone number that is suspicious and people answering the phone who don't know anything. The people show up for the seminar with the "cash only" at the door fee and are told there is no charge. Then we have several people who seem to have just registered for the board, coming on to peddle his services again. Boy that sounds real legitimate to me.........sign me up.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 02:56 pm |
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LLL - you are right, Raz needs to let his bitterness go.
As for Cindisue - the failing economy has an affect on all of us.. what Doc is doing has nothing to do with homeowner taking bad loans in the beginning. Read his website and perhaps the light will go on for you. Everybody is hurting. If Doc can reduce their monthly expenses and no one gets hurt in the process, why not? You and Raz continue the attack on something you obviously know nothing about. Maybe you too should let it go.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 02:19 pm |
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| Lets see, someone can reduce a person's mortgage payment by $400, $1,000, etc., (and it is a revelation that just came about when so many people are in trouble) doesn't that make you wonder how this can be done? There were so many people that believe lenders in the past that they could reduce their payments, etc. and look where it got them; many of them are the ones that need help today. Eventually everyone has to pay the piper (or loan company) - there is no free ride, no magic pill; just a lot of smoke and mirrors, not to mention a lot of snake oil. For those that think that they are getting a break, keep that in mind when the piper comes calling. What is the old say: If it looks too good to be true it usually is!!!
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 02:05 pm |
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Now Raz, you don't have to be so bitter. Its ok to move on and let Doc be. I know you were not happy that he did not drop off the earth and die. He is brining small business to Surprise and apparently is one of the people who can be successful. Holding a grudge cause he has shown initiative and apparently results with happy customers over a committee trying to create some type of welfare and cant seem to get started is showing your longterm memory in not letting it go.   
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 03:33 am |
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| It is 8:30pm and the temperature is 104 decree's.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 12:59 am |
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| Raz - Yes it is now a business. But he turned it into a business only after he was told don't bother to apply for the committee. He doesn't need 'leads' from the city or a committee. If he has done 20 in two months he certainly doesn't need free leads. And his fee schedule isn't going to make him rich. He's satisfied with helping people in need. And why should he tell people like you and the worthless council how he does what he does. Remember, the mayor is a real estate broker and one councilman has 20 years banking experience. Yet Doc is the one who figured it out. He doesn't need them, but they certainly need him. But like you, they would never admit it. A committee that will meet for 16 weeks but come back with no idea how to help. Again, a feel good committee.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 12:19 am |
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Don't know where you've been Barn, but I've been right here. Sorry you missed me. or...didn't. 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that be a colossal "conflict of interest"? He is charging people to help them with their loans, or at least one would assume he's charging since it's a business, then he wants the City to select him for a committee that is going out into the public to assist folks in financial need with their mortgages which is what his business does, right? Because if he doesn't charge for this information, why not just share it in the newspaper or on here or both? If it is as good of a deal as you keep saying it is, why the secret?
So whether the intention is there or not, it would have the definite appearance he is asking the City to help him find clients for his business "to assist folks in financial need with their mortgages". Right?? or Wrong?
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 11:53 pm |
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Well Mr. Raz, let us ask a question. If all the people on the Foreclosure Committee are so well educated, what's taking them so long to address the obvious? It's nothing more then a "feel good" committee. When will you admit that Doc created a plan to help but you ain't buyin'?
Yes they should swallow their pride and find out what he's doing and how the city and it's citizens can benefit. Don't they owe it to the citizens that put them in office? Or is this a political agenda committee?
Raz you've been off this blog for awhile. We all appreciated your absence. Maybe it's time you go on another hiatus.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 11:53 pm |
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Mike
This went over my head.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 11:43 pm |
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Cave People 1
OLD Council 0
Now what Mr. Johnson?
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 11:40 pm |
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Barney wrote: I spoke to Doc today. As of yesterday the count is 20 families. He did say he spoke to John Williams about applying to be on the committee. He was told don't bother. Yeah, some people need to swallow their pride and call the man. I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
Thanks for the chuckle Barney. I think someone should take the hint and move on. People have very long memories in this City, Surprise isn't that big yet. I don't think Councilman Williams needs to do anything different, he is doing a great job and we are very proud of him. There is a multitude of experienced and well educated professionals in this area to tap into, he doesn't need to swallow anything, he's a smart guy and will do just fine. 
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 10:10 pm |
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As I have said before, Surprise is the new Wild West where Council members can do want ever they want, we need a City Charter. God Bless America, don’t forget Surprise.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 09:44 pm |
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| So Joe Johnson repeatedly violated the Open Meeting, nobody is going to do anything about it. Circle the wagons and wait for the next time.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 09:37 pm |
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According to today’s Arizona Republic article, AG: Surprise violated open meeting law.
In my opinion the open meeting violation was a minor accusation that the City Manager made, why were not the other charges addressed.
A good example of the Fox guarding the chicken coop.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:35 pm |
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| I have no problem swallowing my pride and saying I needed help. I and my family are very, very thankful to Doc and for him reaching out as he did.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:29 pm |
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RV. I believe some of them have posted on this blog. But in truth, if I were one of the families, I'm not sure I would want my neighbors knowing I was in trouble. It is personal.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:26 pm |
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The first twenty (20) people to respond for the 4th of July party Surprise, AZ News
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:23 pm |
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| I spoke to Doc today. As of yesterday the count is 20 families. He did say he spoke to John Williams about applying to be on the committee. He was told don't bother. Yeah, some people need to swallow their pride and call the man. I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 06:48 pm |
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FTL hopefully someone can contribute the numbers who might be in the know, and rv hopefully certain people in the city can swallow their pride enough to get with Doc. It all sounds good and what needs to be considered is the good not only for the individuals, but also their communities with fewer foreclosures.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 05:57 pm |
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From what we are reading on this Blog it appears that our previous Council member Doc Sullivan might have a workable solution to help some of our residents.
If this is true, wonder if the City of Surprise has had conversations with "Doc", HOPE SO.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 05:37 pm |
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Barney wrote: While the Foreclosure Committee spins their wheels and getting no where, the Loan Doctor has a solution. My neighbor called the Loan Doctor a few weeks ago. Within two weeks his payments were reduced by over $400 per month.
I do wonder why Doc is not on the committee? Well, maybe I don't wonder. He's too busy helping neighbors save their homes. And the Foreclosure committee is busy doing what.? Identifying what most of us already know.
Does anyone know how many families Doc has helped with his new program?
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 04:17 pm |
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While the Foreclosure Committee spins their wheels and getting no where, the Loan Doctor has a solution. My neighbor called the Loan Doctor a few weeks ago. Within two weeks his payments were reduced by over $400 per month.
I do wonder why Doc is not on the committee? Well, maybe I don't wonder. He's too busy helping neighbors save their homes. And the Foreclosure committee is busy doing what.? Identifying what most of us already know.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 04:06 am |
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Rachel,
I have to agree. The loan Doctor was a great resource for our family. We were able to save our home and reduce our payments tremendously. Our own bank did not even try to help us. We would have no problems recommending this program if someone needed help.
Thanks Doc for everything,
Michael Williams
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 03:54 am |
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As far as the Loan Doctor is concerned I've heard very good results. It is worth taking a look at if anyone needs the help. Otherwise, why concern yourself?
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 09:31 pm |
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The Foreclose Committee is planning to meet again prior to June 30, but the date has not been set. Please check the Web calendar on the city’s Web site http://www.surpriseaz.com for Foreclosure Committee meeting dates and times. This information will also be available of the city’s TV channel Surprise 11, which you can also watch via the Web site, by clicking on the Surprise 11 Live link.
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Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 04:57 pm |
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The City Council passed the budget on the 12th of June 08, other then the pie showing the onetime vs the ongoing can anyone tell me how to find the pie like in previous budgets that showed the expenses in percentage’s how the money is spent?
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| This site does it too I believe.....
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 10:21 pm |
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 09:43 pm |
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dwig222 wrote: From their web site:
There is also information about your computer hardware and software that is automatically collected by The Loan Doctor. This information can include: your IP address, browser type, domain names, access times and referring Web site addresses. This information is used by The Loan Doctor for the operation of the service, to maintain quality of the service, and to provide general statistics regarding use of the The Loan Doctor Web site.
Just a small excerpt from the web site. BEWARE!!!!
The information you refer to is known as "cookies" and is untilized by about 99.9% of the websites you visit on the internet...nothing new here.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 09:35 pm |
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From their web site:
There is also information about your computer hardware and software that is automatically collected by The Loan Doctor. This information can include: your IP address, browser type, domain names, access times and referring Web site addresses. This information is used by The Loan Doctor for the operation of the service, to maintain quality of the service, and to provide general statistics regarding use of the The Loan Doctor Web site.
Just a small excerpt from the web site. BEWARE!!!!
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 08:46 pm |
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Company name is; The Loan Doctor. http://www.theloandoctor.us
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 08:43 pm |
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So what's the name of this great company that saved someone $1100 a month on her mortage. Does Doc personally help you or does he have a company or any kind of credentials?
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 08:14 pm |
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| No infomercial. Say what you want about Doc Sullivan, but the people I spoke with at the seminar swear the program worked for them. Private money.
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 08:09 pm |
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Thanks for getting back to us, Lisa. Like a bad penny Doc Sullivan keeps turning up. That aside, were any specifics provided on how to reduce (refinance or something more exotic?) your mortgage payment or was this more like an infomerical?
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 07:50 pm |
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Sorry for the delay. I was out of town for business. As promised, I wanted to report about the Loan Doctor seminar.
The first surprise; no fee to get in. The young lady at check-in explained there would be no charge for the seminar.
I must say I enjoyed the entire experience. Informative, entertaining and educational.
A gentleman started the seminar with an overview of the economy, past, present and what to expect in the future, short-term and long-term. Very eye opening.
Then several people spoke about their personal financial situation and what the Loan Doctor was able to do for them. One after another gave testimonials and how much they are now saving on house payments. One lady said her house payment was reduced by $1100 per month.
The last speaker was Doc Sullivan. After a brief explanation about his background in banking, he explained how the program was developed and how it works. I found it to be extremely fascinating and creative. Then he asked, by a show of hands, how many brought their check book with them. My first thought was 'here it comes'. Doc asked us to look around the room. Do you see books for sale? Or CD's for sale? Nothing is for sale. Put your check book away. We're here to offer help to those struggling to make house payments. At the very least everyone here today will leave better informed and aware of options to save their home.
The entire experience would have been worth more then the $25 I didn't pay.
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 04:07 am |
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| We might have found a City Manager.
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