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Razenkn wrote: The Quotable Barack Obama
On Tuesday, President Barack Obama, reeling from growing public opposition to his proposed healthcare reform, took to the stage for a town hall meeting in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. The stated intent of the event was to correct public misperceptions about the president's proposal. But the outcome spoke more to the plan's weaknesses than its strengths.
Reacting to allegations that the plan's so-called "public option" would result in government pushing private health insurers out of the market, Obama glibly responded, "... I think private insurers should be able to compete. They do it all the time. I mean, if you think about ... UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? ... It's the Post Office that's always having problems."
Such is the curse of being Barack Obama that when he occasionally stumbles onto truth it militates against his ambitions.
AHHH, BON jOUR!!!! Why did the fringe right then try to convince us that the gov't plan would put the private plans out of business? Has the Post Office put Fedex and UPS out of business..That's what the President was saying..and here, a foreign born person has to explain it to a patriot...tsk, tsk, Au revoir, mes aimee!!
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The Quotable Barack Obama
On Tuesday, President Barack Obama, reeling from growing public opposition to his proposed healthcare reform, took to the stage for a town hall meeting in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. The stated intent of the event was to correct public misperceptions about the president's proposal. But the outcome spoke more to the plan's weaknesses than its strengths.
Reacting to allegations that the plan's so-called "public option" would result in government pushing private health insurers out of the market, Obama glibly responded, "... I think private insurers should be able to compete. They do it all the time. I mean, if you think about ... UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? ... It's the Post Office that's always having problems."
Such is the curse of being Barack Obama that when he occasionally stumbles onto truth it militates against his ambitions.
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Schoolmarm wrote: cestmoi wrote: Razenkn wrote:
This video shows Barack Hussein Obama for the phony liar that he is. His entire administration are working together to lure the "stupid" Americans into thinking they really are offering a competitive plan that will be "good for everyone". Talk about blatant hypocrisy, this is over the top. Governor Palin was right....it's evil. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVvNF3g1l4&NR=1
Bon Jour, Mr. Raz!! Please tell me who Gov. Palin is? I heard of half term, half wit, former Gov. Sarah Palin...does she have a brother or sister who is a Gov? Bon Jour!!
Hate, Hate, Hate
Ha, ha, ha..so what are you and SCLady going to have for dinner tonight? Do you eat out very much?
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cestmoi wrote: Razenkn wrote:
This video shows Barack Hussein Obama for the phony liar that he is. His entire administration are working together to lure the "stupid" Americans into thinking they really are offering a competitive plan that will be "good for everyone". Talk about blatant hypocrisy, this is over the top. Governor Palin was right....it's evil. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVvNF3g1l4&NR=1
Bon Jour, Mr. Raz!! Please tell me who Gov. Palin is? I heard of half term, half wit, former Gov. Sarah Palin...does she have a brother or sister who is a Gov? Bon Jour!!
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Razenkn wrote:
This video shows Barack Hussein Obama for the phony liar that he is. His entire administration are working together to lure the "stupid" Americans into thinking they really are offering a competitive plan that will be "good for everyone". Talk about blatant hypocrisy, this is over the top. Governor Palin was right....it's evil. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVvNF3g1l4&NR=1
Bon Jour, Mr. Raz!! Please tell me who Gov. Palin is? I heard of half term, half wit, former Gov. Sarah Palin...does she have a brother or sister who is a Gov? Bon Jour!!
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Ego-centric Barry Sotero has grown up in a Socialistic Society. His mother and father and step-father were three of the most liberal, anti American, anti Capitalism, anti Christianity family and his formulative years in a foreign Muslim Country. If you will notice, he seemed to have a lot of "culture resentment" towards his white grandparents. I think he has some definite ambivalent feelings towards them.
Both of his books fully admit that he is a staunch believer in "redistribution of wealth" and that "repartations" don't go far enough, he wants more punishment than that.
So while he is out there pounding his chest today over being accused of wanting "socialized medicine" he is having a really hard time sounding sincere when he says very carefully "the people wouldn't support it". He also lies when he states he has NOT SAID he is a single payer (socialized medicine) supporter, but we all have heard him on tape many occasions saying exactly that.
So given his upbringing, his background, his friends, his liberal job as community organizer, the liberal left wing committees he sat on to try to change our education system with indoctrination, his political home of Chicago thuggery, his being named the most liberal Senator for his voting record, his extremism on abortion, his disregard for life, his obsession with Government take over of healthcare..... should come as no surprise to anyone. Anyone with that background has other things in mind for our great Country that we can't begin to imagine if he pulls this off along with CRAP & TRADE. It will be a complete take over of all our civil liberties and our freedoms, that's a fact.
But, why would anyone be surprised by that?? I keep hearing that question, why is he bullying us on this so hard when it's obvious most American's don't want it? All you need to do is read his books, and listen to past interviews. Question answered. America....meet the REAL OBAMA. He's taking off his mask. 
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This video shows Barack Hussein Obama for the phony liar that he is. His entire administration are working together to lure the "stupid" Americans into thinking they really are offering a competitive plan that will be "good for everyone". Talk about blatant hypocrisy, this is over the top. Governor Palin was right....it's evil. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcVvNF3g1l4&NR=1
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Bon Jour! Not content with being a political analyst and commentator for the fringe right, Mr. Raz has now become an art critic. His previous attempt at being a food critic was not successful as some of his fans died following a meal at a restaurant he highly praised. Au revoir fans.
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BigSurprize wrote: I know...that's why the big deal made on here re: any mention of a "monkey" = racist is a bunch of bunk. Nothing was sacred or racist to them when they sliced and diced President Bush...but we're supposed to sit down, hold on, and shut up when it comes to President Obama? I think not! (that particular is still freak'n creepy though)  
We paid for some of this "art" with our tax dollars. That's all the libs can find to do with our money, they have so much they can't get it all spent so they just gave the NEA (National Endownment of the Arts) an $80 Million dollar grant for this type of crap and porno. Then the libs on here want to know why sane people are all up in arms about letting the "government" take over anything. It's mind numbing. 
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I know...that's why the big deal made on here re: any mention of a "monkey" = racist is a bunch of bunk. Nothing was sacred or racist to them when they sliced and diced President Bush...but we're supposed to sit down, hold on, and shut up when it comes to President Obama? I think not! (that particular is still freak'n creepy though)  
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Yup, they are all creepy....This was in Vanity Fair and remember what a glowing family layout they have done for the Obama's? No bias there...Paybacks are hell aren't they? I'm sure it's racial....lol  


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Nacho wrote: Razenkn wrote: Nacho wrote: I'll never be an Obama fan but I hate that picture. Nothing personal to the person posting it.
I'm not a fan of it either but it's no worse than the one they did of GWB. Almost identical and nobody screamed about it, they just called it art. Kind of like the Crucifix sitting in urine in one of the art museums I think in NY, they call it art and get by with it. Or the postage stamp of GWB putting a gun to his own head.
But one take on the Joker is you have to admit, Barack Hussein Obama is trying to play a joke on the American people. Who they voted for ain't who they are getting and he's hoping to have the last laugh. So, we'll see.  
It's like fingernails across a chalkboard to me. I didn't like what they did to Bush either. JMPO
It creeps me out...totally! 
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Razenkn wrote: Nacho wrote: I'll never be an Obama fan but I hate that picture. Nothing personal to the person posting it.
I'm not a fan of it either but it's no worse than the one they did of GWB. Almost identical and nobody screamed about it, they just called it art. Kind of like the Crucifix sitting in urine in one of the art museums I think in NY, they call it art and get by with it. Or the postage stamp of GWB putting a gun to his own head.
But one take on the Joker is you have to admit, Barack Hussein Obama is trying to play a joke on the American people. Who they voted for ain't who they are getting and he's hoping to have the last laugh. So, we'll see.  
It's like fingernails across a chalkboard to me. I didn't like what they did to Bush either. JMPO
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Nacho wrote: I'll never be an Obama fan but I hate that picture. Nothing personal to the person posting it.
I'm not a fan of it either but it's no worse than the one they did of GWB. Almost identical and nobody screamed about it, they just called it art. Kind of like the Crucifix sitting in urine in one of the art museums I think in NY, they call it art and get by with it. Or the postage stamp of GWB putting a gun to his own head.
But one take on the Joker is you have to admit, Barack Hussein Obama is trying to play a joke on the American people. Who they voted for ain't who they are getting and he's hoping to have the last laugh. So, we'll see.  
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| I'll never be an Obama fan but I hate that picture. Nothing personal to the person posting it.
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Here's the real off teleoprompter Obamodrama....snarky attitude, victim, making no sense, describing sensorship...if you don't agree with me, then get out of my way and let me take care of it and stop talking. Really?? Can you imagine President Bush saying that about SS reform? Get out of my way?? Stop talking...can you hear the word IMPEACH?
Notice how the great orator slurs his words sounding like a street thug. Please libs, don't ever tell me again how poorly Gov Palin speaks because she can speak circles around this guy when he's not on TOTUS. 
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From Barack Hussein Obama's autobiography "Sins of My Father" he said....
"I often wore a mask". "White people seemed to be relieved that I was not an angry black man, polite, and well mannered."
Is he still wearing that mask? Yes.
BHO's right hand Attorney General came out this week saying "jail is getting really expensive....nothing to say of the "SOCIAL COST" (Social Justice) associated with high rates of incarceration. He thinks that we should "LESSEN" the restrictions on the already incarcerated such as THE SHOE BOMBER by allowing him phone calls and placing him into the GENERAL POPULATION (so he can help radicalize).
How frightening is that? This is the same guy that went after Pardon's for the FALN Terrorist groups and part of Billy the Terrorist's group Pardons. Do you sense some SOCIAL JUSTICE about to come our way? Why not just let all the TERRORISTS out and we can throw them one big party to celebrate, maybe BAM will invite them to the WH for a brewski. He is going free the oppressed here folks, that is his goal.
If we only listened to him carefully during the campaign, he told us so. But those d**n luvbugs kept plugging up the canal. 
Unplug those luvbugs now, today, this minute. We are in big, big trouble here.  
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| Bon Jour!! I notice, Mr. Raznkne, that the last four posts are yours, oui? Mr. Raz., if nobody responds to your posts, you will just respond to your own? I can't see you doing this each day for the next 7.5 yrs of President Obama's administration. How will you be able to do this and look for work? Au revoir!
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From Barack Hussein Obama's autobiography "Sins of My Father" he said....
"I often wore a mask". "White people seemed to be relieved that I was not an angry black man, polite, and well mannered."
Is he still wearing that mask? Yes.
BHO's right hand Attorney General came out this week saying "jail is getting really expensive....nothing to say of the "SOCIAL COST" (Social Justice) associated with high rates of incarceration. He thinks that we should "LESSEN" the restrictions on the already incarcerated such as THE SHOE BOMBER by allowing him phone calls and placing him into the GENERAL POPULATION (so he can help radicalize).
How frightening is that? This is the same guy that went after Pardon's for the FALN Terrorist groups and part of Billy the Terrorist's group Pardons. Do you sense some SOCIAL JUSTICE about to come our way? Why not just let all the TERRORISTS out and we can throw them one big party to celebrate, maybe BAM will invite them to the WH for a brewski. He is going free the oppressed here folks, that is his goal.
If we only listened to him carefully during the campaign, he told us so. But those d**n luvbugs kept plugging up the canal. 
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There is a really good documentary being shown right now called "Hitler and the Occult"....some of the similarties to this WH are frightening. It gives you some insight how A Hitler can happen anywhere. Check it out, National Geographic Channel, channel 107 on Cox. 
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Valerie Jarrett Is Obama's 'Eyes and Ears'
Officially, Valerie Jarrett is White House senior adviser and assistant to the president for intergovernmental affairs and public engagement.
In reality, Jarrett is Obama's "intermediary to the outside world" and his "closest friend in the White House," according to an in-depth New York Times report on Jarrett's role in the Obama administration.
Obama told The Times' Robert Draper that Jarrett has served "as my eyes and ears."
He also said Jarrett, former head of a Chicago real estate development firm, "combines the closeness of a family member with the savvy and objectivity of a professional businesswoman and public-policy expert."
And an Obama associate disclosed that there are two people Obama is "not going to say no to" — his wife Michelle, and Jarrett.
Jarrett, 52, was born of Africa-American parents in Iran, where her physician father was working with an American aid program. She earned a law degree at the University of Michigan, and was serving as Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley's deputy chief of staff in 1991 when she befriended a young lawyer named Michelle Robinson, and through Michelle, her fiancé, Barack Obama.
Jarrett and Obama became close friends, and she gave him guidance on the book he was writing, "Dreams of My Father."
When Obama, then a state senator, decided to run for the U.S. Senate in 2002, Jarrett originally opposed the idea. But she went along when Obama promised his wife he would quit politics if he lost the election, and Jarrett helped with his fundraising efforts.
She was again at Obama's side in 2006 when he discussed a run for the White House with political strategist David Axelrod, and again served as an important adviser during the campaign.
A few days after Obama won the presidency, Draper reported, he told his new chief of staff Rahm Emanuel: "I want her inside the White House."
When Emanuel found out in December that Jarrett had been looking at office space in the White House, "Emanuel was not happy to learn this," according to Draper. "He confronted Jarrett, and today he says, 'There was a misunderstanding . . . It wasn't a dust-up.'"
Jarrett's director of intergovernmental affairs said there is no "power struggle" between Jarrett and Emanuel. But Draper notes that when Emanuel talks about Jarrett, "it's fair to say that his words fall short of effusive."
In the administration, Jarrett now serves as Obama's conduit to the business community, and as "unofficial champion of minority issues," the Times report discloses.
Beyond that, a friend of advisers Jarrett and Axelrod observed that while Obama gets "brilliant political advice from David, from Valerie he gets wisdom."
When Draper asked Obama if he runs every decision past Jarrett, he answered quickly: "Absolutely."
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In March 2008 while Barack Hussein Obama one of the issues while campaigning he declared that GWB circumvented Congress to increase power in the Executive Branch without Congressional approval and if elected, he would reduce that power and he got many cheers for saying that. He didn't want anymore of that nonsense, right??
But now that he is actually in office, rather than reduce the power of the Executive branch, he has increased it mightily. He has appointed 32 Czars most of who are running programs without any Congressional oversight. Congress cannot call them to testify before them. WOW. 32 stealth government officials running programs, making decisions for us with NO oversight. Here's the kicker. THEY ONLY ANSWER TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, blatant Executive Branch misuse of power.
These are supposed to be temporary positions paid for out of the White House budget and by law have limits on how long and how much they can be paid. Who is overseeing that? Didn't BHO say he wanted to drastically REDUCE the WH budget??? 32 Czars with offices and staff members to fund, who is paying for all that but more importantly WHAT ARE THEY DOING? Nobody knows. It's a stealth government or as some say A SHADOW government and we are footing the bill and suffer whatever consequences come from their decisions and actions answerable to only the Prez. Why isn't Congress screaming about this? What's behind this story?? Why doesn't the press ever ask him about it or the Congressional members they interview??   
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BigSurprize wrote: cestmoi wrote:
Ahhh, it's GRANDE Bottes....LOL 
This would be your usual "reading comprehension" issue. Taking him in as in taking him into the station which is this radical racist wacko's main complaint. But what would you expect the officer to do? He said he was out of control, he would not calm down, he was shouting accusations of racial profiling at him drawing a crowd, and was uncooperative. He warned him twice. You missed the part where the Prof followed Sgt Crowley out to the front porch and continued screaming at him. He was trying to leave.
This professor you all so admire is a racist straight up. He said himself that his own mother HATED white people and said AMEN when she heard that President Reagan had been shot. The apple didn't fall far from the tree and this is the kind of people Barry hangs with. He's just another one of his radical friends and he has MANY. Look at his cabinet and especially his czars that weren't confirmed.
BHO has one vision and one vision only. It is to take the wealth and power from the White population and give it to the Black. He is against reparations not because he doesn't think it's a good idea but because he doesn't think it goes far enough. Far enough??? (His words). You people need to start listening to this guy because he is a radical and he is angry as is his wife. They didn't sit in that Black Liberation Theology church for 20 years because they liked the music. That is just a fact you can't keep ignoring. 
GRANDE BOTTS? I've read your posts and noticed how insulting you are with everyone who disagrees with you. I have done nothing to provoke you, you pig and I'll appreciate you not responding to my posts in the future.
ROTFLMAO
What part of Grande Bottes (not Grande Botts as you wrote)...turned Raz into a "pig" who should never darken your doorstep again? Seems a bit sudden and extreme...for a "newbie" like you. 
Ahhh, Grande Botte's....Tant pis.....LOL 
You've read my posts and you "noticed' them and are infuriated with them?? So much so you feel the need to call me a "pig"?? LOL... ...LOL... Okay, Grande Botte. Knock yourself out but your gig is up....Grande Botte a.k.a.. cookiepuss..hmmmm, who could that be "It is I"..... 
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cestmoi wrote: Razenkn wrote: BigSurprize wrote: cestmoi wrote: Razenkn wrote: Sgt. Crowley described the Professor as "irrational". That is why he took him in, he wouldn't calm down. He was making a scene and race baiting. All the Professor had to do is act like a gentleman, be cooperative and respectful and the officers would have left, case closed. He is a fool that is reveling in the victim-hood cesspool that damages our Country. Another Al and Jesse. And Barack Hussein Obama chimed right in. He showed his real color this week and it wasn't black. It was angry Community Organizer red. 
The actual interview with Sgt. Crowley shows you're incorrect in stating that Sgt. Crowley brought Prof. Gates inside the home. He in fact, ordered him out against his will, which, at the time, seemed to be the right thing to do. They went inside the home when Prof. Gates was ordered to produce some identification. As wrong as Prof. Gates was in carrying on, it seems that Sgt. Crowley, after accepting that Gates was the owner, could have just left since there was no crime committed as reported by the caller.
Ummm, I could be wrong...but I'm think'n Raz was referring to taking "him in" as in arrested. (I detect an interesting evolution to your opinions on this topic ) At any rate, your referrence seems connected to when Gates went inside to get his ID...and Crowley followed him into the house. Per Gates...Crowley entered his home uninvited. Now see, if Crowley is investigating a possible break-in...why would he need an invite? Seems to me he needs to stay right with this guy until proof is provided...that's his job! 
Ahhh, it's GRANDE Bottes....LOL 
This would be your usual "reading comprehension" issue. Taking him in as in taking him into the station which is this radical racist wacko's main complaint. But what would you expect the officer to do? He said he was out of control, he would not calm down, he was shouting accusations of racial profiling at him drawing a crowd, and was uncooperative. He warned him twice. You missed the part where the Prof followed Sgt Crowley out to the front porch and continued screaming at him. He was trying to leave.
This professor you all so admire is a racist straight up. He said himself that his own mother HATED white people and said AMEN when she heard that President Reagan had been shot. The apple didn't fall far from the tree and this is the kind of people Barry hangs with. He's just another one of his radical friends and he has MANY. Look at his cabinet and especially his czars that weren't confirmed.
BHO has one vision and one vision only. It is to take the wealth and power from the White population and give it to the Black. He is against reparations not because he doesn't think it's a good idea but because he doesn't think it goes far enough. Far enough??? (His words). You people need to start listening to this guy because he is a radical and he is angry as is his wife. They didn't sit in that Black Liberation Theology church for 20 years because they liked the music. That is just a fact you can't keep ignoring. 
GRANDE BOTTS? I've read your posts and noticed how insulting you are with everyone who disagrees with you. I have done nothing to provoke you, you pig and I'll appreciate you not responding to my posts in the future.
ROTFLMAO
What part of Grande Bottes (not Grande Botts as you wrote)...turned Raz into a "pig" who should never darken your doorstep again? Seems a bit sudden and extreme...for a "newbie" like you. 
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That's a keeper, d-man...ya gotta love it! 
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GRANDE BOTTS? I've read your posts and noticed how insulting you are with everyone who disagrees with you. I have done nothing to provoke you, you pig and I'll appreciate you not responding to my posts in the future.
You Pig? Nothing to provoke you? Setting rules as to who can post?--- Get real.
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BigSurprize wrote: cestmoi wrote: Razenkn wrote: Sgt. Crowley described the Professor as "irrational". That is why he took him in, he wouldn't calm down. He was making a scene and race baiting. All the Professor had to do is act like a gentleman, be cooperative and respectful and the officers would have left, case closed. He is a fool that is reveling in the victim-hood cesspool that damages our Country. Another Al and Jesse. And Barack Hussein Obama chimed right in. He showed his real color this week and it wasn't black. It was angry Community Organizer red. 
The actual interview with Sgt. Crowley shows you're incorrect in stating that Sgt. Crowley brought Prof. Gates inside the home. He in fact, ordered him out against his will, which, at the time, seemed to be the right thing to do. They went inside the home when Prof. Gates was ordered to produce some identification. As wrong as Prof. Gates was in carrying on, it seems that Sgt. Crowley, after accepting that Gates was the owner, could have just left since there was no crime committed as reported by the caller.
Ummm, I could be wrong...but I'm think'n Raz was referring to taking "him in" as in arrested. (I detect an interesting evolution to your opinions on this topic ) At any rate, your referrence seems connected to when Gates went inside to get his ID...and Crowley followed him into the house. Per Gates...Crowley entered his home uninvited. Now see, if Crowley is investigating a possible break-in...why would he need an invite? Seems to me he needs to stay right with this guy until proof is provided...that's his job!  I'm not arguing that Sgt. Crowley needed no search warrent. The other poster you quoted went off on a racist tear including what he read that Prof. Gates mother had said 40 years ago about President Reagan. You might be correct about what 'Raz" meant since he possibly just did not express himself clearly. At any rate, my thoughts on this may continue to evolve since I have an open mind. Today, I read that the 911 caller didn't identify the subject of the report as two black men. That's according to the actual 911 tape. Based on that, a belief that the 'burglars' were black would show a predisposition toward racial bias on the part of the police sergeant. I think also, police are better trained to be investigators than the public is 'trained' to be suspects so more slack needs to be given to the latter. Bon Jour, mes aimies. . (Canada, perhaps?).
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Razenkn wrote: BigSurprize wrote: cestmoi wrote: Razenkn wrote: Sgt. Crowley described the Professor as "irrational". That is why he took him in, he wouldn't calm down. He was making a scene and race baiting. All the Professor had to do is act like a gentleman, be cooperative and respectful and the officers would have left, case closed. He is a fool that is reveling in the victim-hood cesspool that damages our Country. Another Al and Jesse. And Barack Hussein Obama chimed right in. He showed his real color this week and it wasn't black. It was angry Community Organizer red. 
The actual interview with Sgt. Crowley shows you're incorrect in stating that Sgt. Crowley brought Prof. Gates inside the home. He in fact, ordered him out against his will, which, at the time, seemed to be the right thing to do. They went inside the home when Prof. Gates was ordered to produce some identification. As wrong as Prof. Gates was in carrying on, it seems that Sgt. Crowley, after accepting that Gates was the owner, could have just left since there was no crime committed as reported by the caller.
Ummm, I could be wrong...but I'm think'n Raz was referring to taking "him in" as in arrested. (I detect an interesting evolution to your opinions on this topic ) At any rate, your referrence seems connected to when Gates went inside to get his ID...and Crowley followed him into the house. Per Gates...Crowley entered his home uninvited. Now see, if Crowley is investigating a possible break-in...why would he need an invite? Seems to me he needs to stay right with this guy until proof is provided...that's his job! 
Ahhh, it's GRANDE Bottes....LOL 
This would be your usual "reading comprehension" issue. Taking him in as in taking him into the station which is this radical racist wacko's main complaint. But what would you expect the officer to do? He said he was out of control, he would not calm down, he was shouting accusations of racial profiling at him drawing a crowd, and was uncooperative. He warned him twice. You missed the part where the Prof followed Sgt Crowley out to the front porch and continued screaming at him. He was trying to leave.
This professor you all so admire is a racist straight up. He said himself that his own mother HATED white people and said AMEN when she heard that President Reagan had been shot. The apple didn't fall far from the tree and this is the kind of people Barry hangs with. He's just another one of his radical friends and he has MANY. Look at his cabinet and especially his czars that weren't confirmed.
BHO has one vision and one vision only. It is to take the wealth and power from the White population and give it to the Black. He is against reparations not because he doesn't think it's a good idea but because he doesn't think it goes far enough. Far enough??? (His words). You people need to start listening to this guy because he is a radical and he is angry as is his wife. They didn't sit in that Black Liberation Theology church for 20 years because they liked the music. That is just a fact you can't keep ignoring. 
GRANDE BOTTS? I've read your posts and noticed how insulting you are with everyone who disagrees with you. I have done nothing to provoke you, you pig and I'll appreciate you not responding to my posts in the future.
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BigSurprize wrote: cestmoi wrote: Razenkn wrote: Sgt. Crowley described the Professor as "irrational". That is why he took him in, he wouldn't calm down. He was making a scene and race baiting. All the Professor had to do is act like a gentleman, be cooperative and respectful and the officers would have left, case closed. He is a fool that is reveling in the victim-hood cesspool that damages our Country. Another Al and Jesse. And Barack Hussein Obama chimed right in. He showed his real color this week and it wasn't black. It was angry Community Organizer red. 
The actual interview with Sgt. Crowley shows you're incorrect in stating that Sgt. Crowley brought Prof. Gates inside the home. He in fact, ordered him out against his will, which, at the time, seemed to be the right thing to do. They went inside the home when Prof. Gates was ordered to produce some identification. As wrong as Prof. Gates was in carrying on, it seems that Sgt. Crowley, after accepting that Gates was the owner, could have just left since there was no crime committed as reported by the caller.
Ummm, I could be wrong...but I'm think'n Raz was referring to taking "him in" as in arrested. (I detect an interesting evolution to your opinions on this topic ) At any rate, your referrence seems connected to when Gates went inside to get his ID...and Crowley followed him into the house. Per Gates...Crowley entered his home uninvited. Now see, if Crowley is investigating a possible break-in...why would he need an invite? Seems to me he needs to stay right with this guy until proof is provided...that's his job! 
Ahhh, it's GRANDE Bottes....LOL 
This would be your usual "reading comprehension" issue. Taking him in as in taking him into the station which is this radical racist wacko's main complaint. But what would you expect the officer to do? He said he was out of control, he would not calm down, he was shouting accusations of racial profiling at him drawing a crowd, and was uncooperative. He warned him twice. You missed the part where the Prof followed Sgt Crowley out to the front porch and continued screaming at him. He was trying to leave.
This professor you all so admire is a racist straight up. He said himself that his own mother HATED white people and said AMEN when she heard that President Reagan had been shot. The apple didn't fall far from the tree and this is the kind of people Barry hangs with. He's just another one of his radical friends and he has MANY. Look at his cabinet and especially his czars that weren't confirmed.
BHO has one vision and one vision only. It is to take the wealth and power from the White population and give it to the Black. He is against reparations not because he doesn't think it's a good idea but because he doesn't think it goes far enough. Far enough??? (His words). You people need to start listening to this guy because he is a radical and he is angry as is his wife. They didn't sit in that Black Liberation Theology church for 20 years because they liked the music. That is just a fact you can't keep ignoring. 
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cestmoi wrote: Razenkn wrote: Sgt. Crowley described the Professor as "irrational". That is why he took him in, he wouldn't calm down. He was making a scene and race baiting. All the Professor had to do is act like a gentleman, be cooperative and respectful and the officers would have left, case closed. He is a fool that is reveling in the victim-hood cesspool that damages our Country. Another Al and Jesse. And Barack Hussein Obama chimed right in. He showed his real color this week and it wasn't black. It was angry Community Organizer red. 
The actual interview with Sgt. Crowley shows you're incorrect in stating that Sgt. Crowley brought Prof. Gates inside the home. He in fact, ordered him out against his will, which, at the time, seemed to be the right thing to do. They went inside the home when Prof. Gates was ordered to produce some identification. As wrong as Prof. Gates was in carrying on, it seems that Sgt. Crowley, after accepting that Gates was the owner, could have just left since there was no crime committed as reported by the caller.
Ummm, I could be wrong...but I'm think'n Raz was referring to taking "him in" as in arrested. (I detect an interesting evolution to your opinions on this topic ) At any rate, your referrence seems connected to when Gates went inside to get his ID...and Crowley followed him into the house. Per Gates...Crowley entered his home uninvited. Now see, if Crowley is investigating a possible break-in...why would he need an invite? Seems to me he needs to stay right with this guy until proof is provided...that's his job! 
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Razenkn wrote: Sgt. Crowley described the Professor as "irrational". That is why he took him in, he wouldn't calm down. He was making a scene and race baiting. All the Professor had to do is act like a gentleman, be cooperative and respectful and the officers would have left, case closed. He is a fool that is reveling in the victim-hood cesspool that damages our Country. Another Al and Jesse. And Barack Hussein Obama chimed right in. He showed his real color this week and it wasn't black. It was angry Community Organizer red. 
The actual interview with Sgt. Crowley shows you're incorrect in stating that Sgt. Crowley brought Prof. Gates inside the home. He in fact, ordered him out against his will, which, at the time, seemed to be the right thing to do. They went inside the home when Prof. Gates was ordered to produce some identification. As wrong as Prof. Gates was in carrying on, it seems that Sgt. Crowley, after accepting that Gates was the owner, could have just left since there was no crime committed as reported by the caller.
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MINORITY REPORT
Meet the man at center of Obama's race controversy
Gates immortalized communist, linked to radical black activists
By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

Henry Louis Gates Jr.
JERUSALEM – Henry Louis Gates Jr., the Harvard professor at the center of the current national race controversy, has recruited radical black activists to his university department, is a prominent supporter of reparations for the descendents of slaves and has immortalized a communist and socialist activist.
Since 1991, Gates has been teaching African American studies at Harvard, where he serves as the director of the W. E. B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research. De Bois, an American civil rights activist, sociologist, historian and author, was an avowed communist and also a socialist sympathizer.
Du Bois was for a brief time a member of the Socialist Party. In 1927 he infamously traveled to the USSR, where he called the Soviet system "the most hopeful vehicle for the world." Eight years later, he published the book "Black Reconstruction," which offered a Marxist interpretation of the Reconstruction Era.
The leftist icon officially joined the communist cause in 1950, when he ran for the New York State Senate on the American Labor Party ticket. He lost the election, but eight years later joined Trotskyists, ex-communists, and independent radicals in proposing the creation of a united left-wing coalition to run for seats in New York State elections.
Du Bois joined the Communist Party USA in 1961. He emigrated to Ghana, where he became a naturalized citizen, living in the country's socialist police state. Two years later, the Communist Party named its new youth group the W.E.B. DuBois Clubs.
Serving as director for the Harvard institute immortalizing Du Bois, Gates cultivated black radicals to his race studies department, most prominently bringing in Cornel West, a controversial adviser on Louis Farrakhan's Million Man March with close ties to socialist and black extremist groups. West is a declared personal friend of Farrakhan.
Gates also lured to Harvard socialist sympathizer Kwame Anthony Appiah, a Ghanaian philosopher, cultural theorist and novelist, as well as William Julius Wilson, who is close to the Democrat Socialists of America.
Gates authored two books with West, a long-time member and honorary chair of the Democrat Socialists of America. West served on the black advisory board of Obama's presidential campaign.
From a young age, West proclaimed he admired “the sincere black militancy of Malcolm X, the defiant rage of the Black Panther Party … and the livid black [liberation] theology of James Cone.”
Cone's theology spawned Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's controversial pastor for 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ. West was a strong defender of Wright when the pastor's extreme remarks became national news during last year's campaign season.
Gates himself is a strong supporter of affirmative action and a key member of the reparations movement for the descendants of African slaves. He joined an effort to bring a class action lawsuit for reparations and reportedly has been working privately to urge political and business leaders to keep the issue of slavery at the forefront of social-justice discussions and to support his campaign for reparations.
One of Gates' major sources of intellectual inspiration is Herbert Aptheker, a seminal scholar of African-American history who was a radical American leftist. Aptheker was for decades a leading theorist of the Communist Party U.S.A. before resigning in 1991.
Gates was quoted stating Obama's election last year rivaled the day in 1862 when President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation and the day 101 years later when the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech.
"There's never been a moment like this in our lifetime, ever," Gates said.
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clarz007 wrote: On July 16, 2009, Gates had just returned from a trip to China, where he had finished filming a new documentary series for PBS tracing the ancestry of cellist Yo-Yo Ma. As the front door of his home would not open, Gates entered through his back door. He could not, however, open the front door from the inside, even after unlatching it. Gates states that the lock was damaged and speculated that someone had attempted to "jimmy" the lock while he was away. Gates went back outside and, with help from his driver, forced the door open. Since he rents the house from Harvard University, he next called Harvard maintenance to report the problem so they would repair the damage.
According to the police report, the caller "observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on" and that her "suspicions were aroused when she observed one of the men wedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry." She then called the police.
After the driver had departed, and while Gates was on the phone with Harvard maintenance, the Cambridge police arrived. There are two published accounts of the subsequent events which led to the arrest of Gates—one in the police report and the other in an interview with Gates:
- According to the police report, the officer asked Gates to step outside, and he refused, saying "Why, because I'm a black man in America?" and "I'll speak with your mama outside". The police also said that Gates initially refused to provide ID, ultimately showing his Harvard ID. The officer wrote in the police report "Gates continued to yell at me, accusing me of racial bias and continued to tell me that I had not heard the last of him".
- According to Gates's version of events, when the officer asked for ID, Gates replied he had to get it inside, and then officer Crowley followed him into his home without permission. After providing his Harvard ID and his driver's license, Gates repeatedly asked the officer for his name and badge number, which the officer would not provide, instead telling Gates to step outside his home. Gates said that after handing over the two sets of ID, he followed the officer (Crowley) from inside his house onto his front porch, where the officer was able to arrest him for "disorderly conduct" in public.
Gates is an elderly man who walks with a cane due to an old athletic injury which left one leg 2 inches shorter. He has spent his entire academic career (and it is extensive/impressive) improving race relations. The police are supposed to be trained to deal with something called "contempt of cop" as a first amendment right. The "disorderly conduct" arrest is the most abused in the system. The whole thing is bogus.

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On July 16, 2009, Gates had just returned from a trip to China, where he had finished filming a new documentary series for PBS tracing the ancestry of cellist Yo-Yo Ma. As the front door of his home would not open, Gates entered through his back door. He could not, however, open the front door from the inside, even after unlatching it. Gates states that the lock was damaged and speculated that someone had attempted to "jimmy" the lock while he was away. Gates went back outside and, with help from his driver, forced the door open. Since he rents the house from Harvard University, he next called Harvard maintenance to report the problem so they would repair the damage.
According to the police report, the caller "observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on" and that her "suspicions were aroused when she observed one of the men wedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry." She then called the police.
After the driver had departed, and while Gates was on the phone with Harvard maintenance, the Cambridge police arrived. There are two published accounts of the subsequent events which led to the arrest of Gates—one in the police report and the other in an interview with Gates:
- According to the police report, the officer asked Gates to step outside, and he refused, saying "Why, because I'm a black man in America?" and "I'll speak with your mama outside". The police also said that Gates initially refused to provide ID, ultimately showing his Harvard ID. The officer wrote in the police report "Gates continued to yell at me, accusing me of racial bias and continued to tell me that I had not heard the last of him".
- According to Gates's version of events, when the officer asked for ID, Gates replied he had to get it inside, and then officer Crowley followed him into his home without permission. After providing his Harvard ID and his driver's license, Gates repeatedly asked the officer for his name and badge number, which the officer would not provide, instead telling Gates to step outside his home. Gates said that after handing over the two sets of ID, he followed the officer (Crowley) from inside his house onto his front porch, where the officer was able to arrest him for "disorderly conduct" in public.
Gates is an elderly man who walks with a cane due to an old athletic injury which left one leg 2 inches shorter. He has spent his entire academic career (and it is extensive/impressive) improving race relations. The police are supposed to be trained to deal with something called "contempt of cop" as a first amendment right. The "disorderly conduct" arrest is the most abused in the system. The whole thing is bogus.
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What really bothers me is that, President Obama's Press Secretary was on the news saying that somehow to sit down and having a beer with the President will help solve this type of incident in the future, alluding that it was racially based. Why the heck is everyone seemingly to blame the police officer with some kind of racial issue? The person who called the police in the first place never said the possible thieves were black, the office never spewed any racial slurs. The only person that made it racial, is Professor Gates when he yelled racial slurs and then went on the news and claimed racial profiling and not to mention when President Obama commented publicly that there was a race issue, and continues to. Why is President Obama trying to divide the country?
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Sgt. Crowley described the Professor as "irrational". That is why he took him in, he wouldn't calm down. He was making a scene and race baiting. All the Professor had to do is act like a gentleman, be cooperative and respectful and the officers would have left, case closed. He is a fool that is reveling in the victim-hood cesspool that damages our Country. Another Al and Jesse. And Barack Hussein Obama chimed right in. He showed his real color this week and it wasn't black. It was angry Community Organizer red. 
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clarz007 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: First statement: The president caused a stir when he said at a prime-time news conference earlier this week that Cambridge, Mass., police had "acted stupidly" by arresting Gates, a Harvard scholar and friend of the president's, for disorderly conduct.
Second statement: "This has been ratcheting up, and I obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up," he said. "I want to make clear that in my choice of words, I think I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge police department and Sgt. Crowley specifically. And I could've calibrated those words differently."
His choice of words were: “Police had ‘acted stupidly' by arresting Gates” – I don’t know, but in anyone’s vocabulary that is in fact maligning the Cambridge police department. Secondly, where did he chastise Mr. Gates for making racial slurs to the officer – seems like it is a double standard – is it because Mr. Gates is African American or because he is an acquaintance of President Obama – either way, it sure reeks of a double standard and favoritism to me.
Let's face it! Everyone over-reacted in this debacle. The president did not respond appropriately, hence the second statement, but maybe we need to put this in context. Dr. Gates is a person who has spent his life dealing with racism. I'm sure he was actively involved in the civil rights movement and knows first hand the history of racial injustice. The police CAN BE very intimidating and obviously Dr. Gates behaved in a less than stellar way. Now it is time to move forward and put this to bed. Based on the interview with Sgt. Crowley, I sided completely with him. If the Prof. wants to be treated like a Harvard Prof., he needs to act like one rather than a thug. On the other hand, disturbing the peace is a catch all charge...it was thin to begin with since the public location of the breach was the Prof.'s porch and the 'public' consisted of only 7 passers-by. It seems Sgt. Crowley needed to show he was in the boss even as he was leaving the house..., hence the arrest...there is enough poor judgement in this case to include everyone....I'm not sure this was as such about race as it was about class.....unfortunate everyone dug in their heels and won't accept any responsibility for any of it.
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Is Obama going to get imvolved in the illegal' s killing of a border agent a couple of days ago? Is he going to condemn their act of murder of a law enforcement officer? How about the mass murders committed lately?
I voted for Obama based on his campaign promises and his representation of his character. Raz has been right about this guy all along. He is simply a fine example of a street thug with a good vocabulary leading the masses to a fiscal and social graveyard.
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First it's Obama telling us that the flaps over his health care reform efforts "aren't about me. Now (from the AP)
Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. says he is ready to move on from his arrest by a white police officer, hoping to use the encounter to improve fairness in the criminal justice system and saying "in the end, this is not about me at all."
BS. It's all all about them. Everything's about them. Feeling they have to deny it (why?) tells the rest of us they're both selfish, self-centered egomaniacs trying to diminish their true involvement and deflect appropriate criticism from themselves.
At least old Joe Biden's honest about his (stupid) utterances and doesn't try to distance himself from them at any blow back.
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clarz007 wrote: cindisue_g wrote: First statement: The president caused a stir when he said at a prime-time news conference earlier this week that Cambridge, Mass., police had "acted stupidly" by arresting Gates, a Harvard scholar and friend of the president's, for disorderly conduct.
Second statement: "This has been ratcheting up, and I obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up," he said. "I want to make clear that in my choice of words, I think I unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge police department and Sgt. Crowley specifically. And I could've calibrated those words differently."
His choice of words were: “Police had ‘acted stupidly' by arresting Gates” – I don’t know, but in anyone’s vocabulary that is in fact maligning the Cambridge police department. Secondly, where did he chastise Mr. Gates for making racial slurs to the officer – seems like it is a double standard – is it because Mr. Gates is African American or because he is an acquaintance of President Obama – either way, it sure reeks of a double standard and favoritism to me.
Let's face it! Everyone over-reacted in this debacle. The president did not respond appropriately, hence the second statement, but maybe we need to put this in context. Dr. Gates is a person who has spent his life dealing with racism. I'm sure he was actively involved in the civil rights movement and knows first hand the history of racial injustice. The police CAN BE very intimidating and obviously Dr. Gates behaved in a less than stellar way. Now it is time to move forward and put this to bed.
Because he is actively involved in the civil rights movement means he can act like he did...I don't think so. If my neighbors called the police to say there were people breaking into my house and they came and called me out. I would explain that it was my house, show them my identification, tell them that I lost my keys and was trying to get in and then I WOULD THANK THEM for protecting my property. The police officer turn to go, when Mr. Gates started his racial slurs...to me that was unacceptable and racists. Both Mr. Gates and President Obama owe the officer and the police department a "heartfelt" apology..they haven't gotten that yet and deserve it.
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