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Maybe when he said it is the largest, he was talking about landmass? Just a thought. Either way, it seems like he really pushed himself away from Muslims at the outset and now he is starting to nuzzle up to them a little. Maybe if he is elected to a second term he will fully admit it, once he is a lame duck president? Until then he is walking a delicate line, telling people in the U.S. that he is absolutely not a Muslim while at the same time telling those in the Muslim community "not that there's anything wrong with it" Yeah, it's really in a delicate position, isn't he?
Yet since the media is in the tank for him, there will be no investigation and if there is it will be poo-pooed away. We still don't know about his birth certificate, his college records, or really ANYTHING about him. Look at the letter in the other thread.
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cindisue_g wrote: razenkn wrote:
"The United States of America is the Largest Muslim Country in the World" who made that statement?
"The United States of America is no longer a Christian Nation" who made that statement?
Barack Hussein Obama. 
Boy we must have had a huge number come into the country lately!!!
Top 10 Largest National Muslim Populations
Country Number of Muslims
Indonesia 170,310,000
Pakistan 136,000,000
Bangladesh 106,050,000
India 103,000,000
Turkey 62,410,000
Iran 60,790,000
Egypt 53,730,000
Nigeria 47,720,000
China 37,108,000
In 1996 there were 96,000 Muslims in the United States
There's been another MIRACLE since the Messiah took off for his trip to make peace with our Middle East not so friendly friends. Just a few short months ago Barack Hussein Obama said his daddy was "Agnostic" not Muslim. Now, the White House just released the MIRACLE!! It turns out they are admitting openly for the first time DADDY BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WAS INDEED A MUSLIM and apparently now Junior is proud of that fact.
So many CHANGES since BHO has come to be. Our Nation is no longer a Christian Nation, we are now a MUSLIM nation, and he is going to speak to his MUSLIM friends about his LIFE AS A MUSLIM.
A three pronged ObamaDrama called the "Muslim Connection"....The story line goes like this.....His Daddy Barack Hussein Obama SR was born in Kenya a MUSLIM, Baby Barack Hussein Obama jr. was born (still unsure of the exact location but Kenya if you believe his granny)??? and raised in the largest (no not America) the largest MUSLIM Nation of Indonesia, and Barack Hussein Obama JR comes from Chicago that has the largest MUSLIM community in the United States. And now he's off to Egypt to tell them his MUSLIM story. Heartwarming isn't it? Think there will be a movie???
His Church of choice for 20 years has a very close relationship with the radical Black Panther Muslims and honors Louis Farrakhan who is the leader of the anti America Black Muslim Community.
Since leaving the Church for political reasons, the Obama's have only been in church once, apparently having a hard time finding one similar to their comfort of the United Trinity Church in DC which teaches Black Liberation Theology. Must not be any in DC, maybe United Trinity can start one for them.
WHO'S THE REAL OBAMA?? GOOD QUESTION, VERY GOOD QUESTION. 
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razenkn wrote:
"The United States of America is the Largest Muslim Country in the World" who made that statement?
"The United States of America is no longer a Christian Nation" who made that statement?
Barack Hussein Obama. 
Boy we must have had a huge number come into the country lately!!!
Top 10 Largest National Muslim Populations
Country Number of Muslims
Indonesia 170,310,000
Pakistan 136,000,000
Bangladesh 106,050,000
India 103,000,000
Turkey 62,410,000
Iran 60,790,000
Egypt 53,730,000
Nigeria 47,720,000
China 37,108,000
In 1996 there were 96,000 Muslims in the United States
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"The United States of America is the Largest Muslim Country in the World" who made that statement?
"The United States of America is no longer a Christian Nation" who made that statement?
Barack Hussein Obama. 
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You frighten many people because . . .
you lack humility and 'class' and are always blaming others.
your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your spending proposals.
you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent and knowledgeable people.
you prefer controlling over governing.
you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America ' crowd and deliver this message abroad.
the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.
you want to kill American capitalism which provides the highest standard of living in the world.
you falsely believe that you are both omnipotent and omniscient.
you have begun to use 'extortion' tactics against certain banks and corporations.
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MrsF wrote: Raz - that article you posted--take a look at the very last paragraph, the last commentary by his uncle. Pretty telling if you ask me!
“I am puzzled by intelligent people who stand by and allow their country to be taken over and run by extreme radical types,” Payne said. “I'm still somewhat puzzled by that. And I am fully aware that it could happen and has almost happened in this country. You know, I lived through the McCarthy era in the 1950s, when it was getting dangerously close to that sort of thing.”
Very telling indeed. I think he's trying to tell us something about his nephew. What's even more telling is why wouldn't BHO ask this War Veteran Uncle to go with him to observe the 65th-anniversary commemoration of the D-Day landings? What a great way to honor his service and an elderly Uncle to boot. But BHO doesn't speak of him now, guess he didn't like being corrected on the facts. He was happy to use him however during the campaign until he got called on the lie. What a sham. 
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Another great example of WORDS...JUST WORDS......
Obama's Uncle: He's Using Buchenwald for Political Purpose
Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:33 PM

Barack Obama's great uncle offered some blunt language as to why his nephew is visiting the memorial at the former Buchenwald concentration camp next week during his trip to Europe and the Middle East.
“This is a trip that he chose, not because of me I'm sure, but for political reasons,” Charles Payne told the German magazine Spiegel. “Perhaps his visit also has something to do with improving his standing with (German Chancellor) Angela Merkel. She gave him a hard time during his campaign and also afterwards.”
Obama will visit Saudi Arabia, make a long-awaited speech to the Muslim world in Cairo, travel to Dresden and the Buchenwald Nazi concentration camp in Germany, and attend D-Day commemorations in France. His uncle said he'd love to tag along if he gets a lift on Air Force One.
Payne, 84, is no stranger to Americans: The Obama campaign used his WWII experiences last year to burnish the candidate’s all-American upbringing. But Obama made a gaffe when he said his great uncle liberated Auschwitz. In fact, Payne was part of the force that liberated Ohrdruf, a subcamp of the Buchenwald concentration camp, in April 1945.
Payne told Spiegel that he was shocked to see his war experience, especially his "liberation" of a concentration camp, used in campaign commercials. He said he had never spoken with his nephew about the matter, nor did Obama ever express any interest in Payne's experience.
“I was quite surprised when the whole thing came up and Barack talked about my war experiences in Nazi Germany,” Payne said. “We had never talked about that before.”
Payne doesn’t know where Obama came up with the fictitious Auschwitz connection.
“He couldn't have gotten it from me since we had never talked about this particular episode in the war,” said Payne. “My sister and her husband were both great storytellers and sometimes made up the details to go along with it.
“They told him about my deployment with the 89th Infantry Division and apparently they mixed up a few details,” Payne said. “Of course it came out immediately that he was wrong since there are enough people in America who know that Auschwitz is in the East and that the camp was liberated by the Red Army.”
After the mistake was made, Obama called Payne to get the correct details.
“He wanted to know where this camp was that I had helped liberate,” Payne said. “I told him that it was Ohrdruf and that it was a subcamp of the Buchenwald concentration camp. I described a little bit of what I had seen.”
Payne stressed that he has no political ax to grind. He is a life-long Democrat, but said he isn’t particularly close to his famous relative.
“Our relationship is warm and friendly, but I'm not part of his inner circle. We always have an interesting chat when we get in the same room together. He doesn't call me up and ask what I have to say about world policy or anything. And I never offer my opinions on any of this.”
In the article, Payne described an incident very similar to what many members of the “Greatest Generation” had experienced. A young man from Kansas, he had little knowledge of the world and few opinions about Germany or foreign policy in general before landing in Europe for the liberation.
“Everybody who was able-bodied was drafted,” Payne recalled. “I went down right at the time I graduated and told the lady that ran the Selective Service office. I said, ‘I'm ready to go,’ and she said: ‘Don't you worry about it, honey. You're on the list.’ Since I had been colorblind since birth, I was first turned down by the Air Force, then by the Navy and the Marines. Only the Army didn't care and put me into the infantry.”
Raised in Kansas, Payne did his basic training at North Camp Hood, Texas.
“What did you think about the Germans at the time?” Spiegel asked him.
“I am unable to tell you what I was thinking then. That was a long time ago, and as I told you, until Barack misspoke, I hadn't thought about any of this for a very, very long time,” Payne said.
“They were the enemy, evil incarnate, and we were the good guys coming to save the world. We were all for the war. We all wanted to be in it. That doesn't mean we enjoyed being in it, though,” he said. He then described his experiences in Europe.
“At first there was no front,” he said. “Because there were no facilities for our ship, we couldn't anchor in the harbor. Le Havre had been summarily bombed. They finally took us off in the middle of the night on landing barges. It was bitter cold and snowing. There was about three or four inches of water sloshing around in the bottom. So we landed at Le Havre in bitter cold with wet feet. Soon afterwards we had a large number of people who suffered from frostbite. The camp doctors were forced to amputate fingers, toes, and feet and send these soldiers back to the United States. For them the war was over.
“Ohrdruf was in that string of towns going across, south of Gotha and Erfurt,” Payne said, describing his arrival near the concentration camp. “Our division was the first one in there. When we arrived there were no German soldiers anywhere around that I knew about. There was no fighting with the Germans, no camp guards. The whole area was overrun by people from the camp dressed in the most pitiful rags, and most of them were in a bad state of starvation. The first thing I saw was a dead body lying square in the middle of the front gate.
“Inside the gate was an area where a bunch of the camp inmates had been machine gunned and were all lying on the ground,” Payne continued. “Each one had their tin cup in their hand or lying next to them.”
The interviewer asked him to describe his feelings when he was "confronted with these images.”
Payne said he doesn’t like to think about it, and hadn’t for a long time until Obama’s gaffe caused all the harsh memories of that time to come back in force.
“You know, I am unable to tell you what I was thinking then,” Payne said. “That was a long time ago, and as I told you, until Barack misspoke, I hadn't thought about any of this for a very, very long time. In fact, I guess I prefer not to think about it. I can assure you I was horrified by the lengths to which men will go to mistreat other men. This was, to me, almost unbelievable. There was more: There were sheds full of dead bodies that had been stripped and thrown in and then stacked up on top of each other. I don't know how many, but many high and the whole length of the room. They sprinkled lime to keep the smell down. That's about the extent that I remember actually seeing.
“I am puzzled by intelligent people who stand by and allow their country to be taken over and run by extreme radical types,” Payne said. “I'm still somewhat puzzled by that. And I am fully aware that it could happen and has almost happened in this country. You know, I lived through the McCarthy era in the 1950s, when it was getting dangerously close to that sort of thing.”
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Why is the Obama Justice Department protecting New Black Panthers?
May 28, 2009 11:24 AM by Michelle Malkin
Thug thizzle.
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MrsF wrote: Somehow, I think I will manage to cope with just your recent wonderfully important commentary and posting style. It will be a challenge, but I think I will find a way to survive with your oh-so-relevant words!
Raz, Craig, Deuce, Dman, and everyone else, we may need to form a support group to learn new coping tools, cuz it seems that Ms. Boots has no intention of injecting intelligent conversation into our discussions any more. What shall we do?
Big booty knows nothing by her own admission so therefore it's inconceivable that she would actually contribute anything to the conversation, just back chatter that is childish clamoring for attention. Me, me, me, look at me everybody, I can say stupid things like a naughty little three year old. I don't expect anything better from her so I just use her for entertainment on here when I get bored, otherwise I just ignore her ignorance and place her in time out. 
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Somehow, I think I will manage to cope with just your recent wonderfully important commentary and posting style. It will be a challenge, but I think I will find a way to survive with your oh-so-relevant words!
Raz, Craig, Deuce, Dman, and everyone else, we may need to form a support group to learn new coping tools, cuz it seems that Ms. Boots has no intention of injecting intelligent conversation into our discussions any more. What shall we do?
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MrsF wrote: Bootsie I guarantee I get a lot more from Raz's posts than I do yours. You haven't had anything of substance to say in a very long time.What exactly can one take from these recent posts from you? You don't exactly discuss either. You do more of a drive-by sniper attack, but with lame-o responses to boot! (Pun Intended)
President Obama is not compaining about the pressure, hotlips...He's doing fine without your help, Deuce/bouche , thank you.
You don't discuss, f..you lecture and go on and on and..zzzzzzzzzz.
RAZ---still putting President Obama into totally unrelated threads, I see.
LOL--so he DID let you read his diary afterall.
(This is Craig's way of saying, 'no--he really didn't know what was going on and he didn't ask'.)
I don't know why Powell is going to bother respond to the uber right nut-jobs any more than he should respond to white supremacy groups and other extremists. Conservatives are dying on the vine...just let them go, Colin...really....
Yeah, Bootsie, you are really contributing much to the conversations these days, aren't you, Peanut? Get over yourself.
I will study your suggestions and give them all due credit. If, F, U don't find me meeting your literary standards, I suppose you'll need to find a way to cope, dear.
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Bootsie I guarantee I get a lot more from Raz's posts than I do yours. You haven't had anything of substance to say in a very long time.What exactly can one take from these recent posts from you? You don't exactly discuss either. You do more of a drive-by sniper attack, but with lame-o responses to boot! (Pun Intended)
President Obama is not compaining about the pressure, hotlips...He's doing fine without your help, Deuce/bouche , thank you.
You don't discuss, f..you lecture and go on and on and..zzzzzzzzzz.
RAZ---still putting President Obama into totally unrelated threads, I see.
LOL--so he DID let you read his diary afterall.
(This is Craig's way of saying, 'no--he really didn't know what was going on and he didn't ask'.)
I don't know why Powell is going to bother respond to the uber right nut-jobs any more than he should respond to white supremacy groups and other extremists. Conservatives are dying on the vine...just let them go, Colin...really....
Yeah, Bootsie, you are really contributing much to the conversations these days, aren't you, Peanut? Get over yourself.
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MrsF wrote: Wow, Bootsie! That's your big rebuttal? Yawn? No arguing the specifics mentioned? Hmmm, maybe that's exactly the apathy the author is talking about. Why not comment on even ONE SINGLE point made? All you show is that you don't want to read that much. That's the problem with this country. People don't want to read to learn any more. We are all about the quick sound bites and snippets. Nobody wants to truly read what others think unless they can give it to us quick. Our country has watered ourselves down.
We as a culture are more concerned with what Brad and Angelina are doing than what Communist Russia thinks about our President. Sad day in America. I would think someone who lives in a formerly Communist country and sees us heading in that direction would cause passion from both sides. You don't even come in here and deny the content. Instead, you try to insult Raz by insinuating that s/he has put you to sleep. I think that says more about you than it does about him/her!
Rantso's is soooo passe, dear...you actually read her posts? really? Poor thang.
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MrsF wrote: Wow, Bootsie! That's your big rebuttal? Yawn? No arguing the specifics mentioned? Hmmm, maybe that's exactly the apathy the author is talking about. Why not comment on even ONE SINGLE point made? All you show is that you don't want to read that much. That's the problem with this country. People don't want to read to learn any more. We are all about the quick sound bites and snippets. Nobody wants to truly read what others think unless they can give it to us quick. Our country has watered ourselves down.
We as a culture are more concerned with what Brad and Angelina are doing than what Communist Russia thinks about our President. Sad day in America. I would think someone who lives in a formerly Communist country and sees us heading in that direction would cause passion from both sides. You don't even come in here and deny the content. Instead, you try to insult Raz by insinuating that s/he has put you to sleep. I think that says more about you than it does about him/her!
Boots has a very short attention span-- doesn't want to listen anyway. She just hates.
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Wow, Bootsie! That's your big rebuttal? Yawn? No arguing the specifics mentioned? Hmmm, maybe that's exactly the apathy the author is talking about. Why not comment on even ONE SINGLE point made? All you show is that you don't want to read that much. That's the problem with this country. People don't want to read to learn any more. We are all about the quick sound bites and snippets. Nobody wants to truly read what others think unless they can give it to us quick. Our country has watered ourselves down.
We as a culture are more concerned with what Brad and Angelina are doing than what Communist Russia thinks about our President. Sad day in America. I would think someone who lives in a formerly Communist country and sees us heading in that direction would cause passion from both sides. You don't even come in here and deny the content. Instead, you try to insult Raz by insinuating that s/he has put you to sleep. I think that says more about you than it does about him/her!
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razenkn wrote: This is a sad day for America when China and now Russia are warning us not to go down this path.....
Subject: The Russian newspaper Pravda (English Edition) lamenting America's descent into Marxism?
How sad is this? The Russian newspaper Pravda (English Edition) lamenting America's descent into Marxism? Saddest of all, everything they say is true!!
American capitalism gone with a whimper ?

27.04.2009
Source: Pravda.Ru
It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.
True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.
Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.
First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blindeth the foolish.
Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.
The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.
These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the sher volumes. Should we congratulate them?
These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.
Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.
So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.
Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.
So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.
The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.
The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.
Stanislav Mishin
Yawn, yawn..and....YAWN>>>>>
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This is a sad day for America when China and now Russia are warning us not to go down this path.....
Subject: The Russian newspaper Pravda (English Edition) lamenting America's descent into Marxism?
How sad is this? The Russian newspaper Pravda (English Edition) lamenting America's descent into Marxism? Saddest of all, everything they say is true!!
American capitalism gone with a whimper ?

27.04.2009
Source: Pravda.Ru
It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.
True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists.
Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.
First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their "right" to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our "democracy". Pride blindeth the foolish.
Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different "branches and denominations" were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the "winning" side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the "winning" side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America.
The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.
These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the sher volumes. Should we congratulate them?
These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.
Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of "pure" free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.
So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a "bold" move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.
Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper...but a "freeman" whimper.
So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set "fair" maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.
The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.
The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.
Stanislav Mishin
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During BHO's inappropriate and faux "we must find common ground" speech on abortion yesterday during his Notre Dame Commencement it became very apparent he or his team, probably his team because unscripted he's horrible, know how to fake everyone out. Do you just abort them a little bit to meet the pro-life group halfway? What a disingenuous statement to make, but doesn't he sound like the profound peacemaker when he says these pretty words?
His records shows he believes there is nothing wrong with unfettered abortion including late term abortion that he votes for wholeheartedly every time including voting against the bill not once but twice in the State Legislature to save a botched aborted baby's life. He voted to let the baby die because it would place a "burden" upon the mother's original decision to abort.
He likes that words "burden" "punishment" in conjunction with babies. He made that statement during a debate while campaigning that if one of his daughters should make a mistake he would not want them "punished" with a baby.
Where's the common ground on that? Just let them die a slow painful death or agree to make them comfortable while medical professionals stand around and watch them die? Is that the common ground BHO so eloquently speaks of?
Common ground in dissent seems to be his favorite phrase but when has he found any common ground with the Republicans so far? Did he agree they should have some input in the 800 BILLION dollar PORKULUS bill that nobody read? No. How about his 3.6 TRILLION dollar budget, any Republican input on that except keeping in the pork?? No. How about the closing of GITMO? No. There hasn't been any legislation coming out of this Liberal Congress and bills signed by this President that has one iota of Republican input, it's all theirs.
It's been either you vote the way we have it, or screw you. WE WON. Common ground? I don't think so. Haven't seen it yet and we aren't too likely to either. That's just more of his false statements he makes on a regular basis and his groupies lap it up like gravy in a dog bowl. 
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GEM127 wrote: razenkn wrote:
GEM127 wrote: GEM127 wrote:
Craig wrote:
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Hitler did exactly the same thing..
Now RAZ if you look at the picture below you will see storm troopers and in case you are not familiar with the movie set it is from Star Wars. And since it is hard for you to figure some things out. If you look at the picture that LL posted with the storm troopers and you look at a picture of the SS in WWII you will see that both look very much alike.
God..... Give it a break.
Maybe I fell asleep gem, I don't know but what the heck are you tryng to say and what does that mean? How does that relate to what we are talking about on here? I bet you are the guy at the party that everyone is messing with. Give what a break? 
You are truly hopeless RAZZY. I don't know how to explain it any better then that.
The profound "one liner hit" poster strikes again. What's funny about this is he is the appointed spokesperson on here for the libs. LOL 
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razenkn wrote:
GEM127 wrote: GEM127 wrote:
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Hitler did exactly the same thing..
Now RAZ if you look at the picture below you will see storm troopers and in case you are not familiar with the movie set it is from Star Wars. And since it is hard for you to figure some things out. If you look at the picture that LL posted with the storm troopers and you look at a picture of the SS in WWII you will see that both look very much alike.
God..... Give it a break.
Maybe I fell asleep gem, I don't know but what the heck are you tryng to say and what does that mean? How does that relate to what we are talking about on here? I bet you are the guy at the party that everyone is messing with. Give what a break? 
You are truly hopeless RAZZY. I don't know how to explain it any better then that.
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Craig wrote: AZ attorney general thinks he is obama by sticking his nose into private business.
Ummmm..Craig--that's exactly what AG's are suppose to do....sue for fraud, discrimination, etc...what did you think their charter was for?
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GEM127 wrote: GEM127 wrote:
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Hitler did exactly the same thing..
Now RAZ if you look at the picture below you will see storm troopers and in case you are not familiar with the movie set it is from Star Wars. And since it is hard for you to figure some things out. If you look at the picture that LL posted with the storm troopers and you look at a picture of the SS in WWII you will see that both look very much alike.
God..... Give it a break.
Maybe I fell asleep gem, I don't know but what the heck are you tryng to say and what does that mean? How does that relate to what we are talking about on here? I bet you are the guy at the party that everyone is messing with. Give what a break? 
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GEM127 wrote:
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Hitler did exactly the same thing..
Now RAZ if you look at the picture below you will see storm troopers and in case you are not familiar with the movie set it is from Star Wars. And since it is hard for you to figure some things out. If you look at the picture that LL posted with the storm troopers and you look at a picture of the SS in WWII you will see that both look very much alike.
God..... Give it a break.
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Obama's endorsement of Bush-Cheney anti-terror policies is becoming routine:
opposing release of prisoner abuse photos; support of indefinite detention for some detainees; reviving military tribunals; etc,
This is the same “guy” that made the following campaign statements/one-liners about the Bush administration policies:
“shadow justice system”
“legal black hole”
“dangerously flawed legal approach” which
“undermines the very values we are fighting to defend”
“Our Constitution and our Uniform Code of Military Justice provides a framework for dealing with the terrorists” then denouncing “a legal framework that does not work”
Some people in the White House are becoming embarrassed by their boss’s switcheroo!
And, some of Obama’s most ardent supporters are scratching their heads – is this the same guy we voted for and championed?
Just another bow to Bush’s anti-terror legacy!
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GEM127 wrote: Craig wrote:
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Hitler did exactly the same thing..
Please translate gem. Hitler did exactly the same thing as what?  
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Hitler did exactly the same thing..
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AZ attorney general thinks he is obama by sticking his nose into private business.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/05/15/20090515citizen-complaint0515.html
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/14explorers.html?_r=3
Dont read this.
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| Remember his statement during the campaign - "Tell me what to say and I'll sell it."
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Come on, give the man a break. Slowly but surely the light is going on inside Obama’s head. He is beginning to realize:
1. That OJT is no substitute for experience.
2. There’s more to being President then reading teleprompter speeches.
3. That Bush’s national security policies are beginning to make more sense now
that he gets those daily intelligence briefings.
4. There’s more to this Commander-in-Chief job then just withdrawing troops from
Iraq, closing Gitmo, prosecuting former DOJ lawyers, releasing “torture” photos,
etc.
5. That saving GM and taking care of the UAW presents a real conflict.
6. The approval process for his Supreme Court nominee is going to be problematic
and will divert attention away of his legislative agenda.
7. That he’s finding himself at odds with the far left on some key issues.
8. That Pelosi is going to be a liability and it will be necessary marginalize her.
9. That Reid is nothing more than a “capon”.
10. That he’s got another 3 1/2 +years to go and it ain’t going to be as easy as the
first 100 days.
11. That some of his supporters and financial backers are beginning to have second
thoughts about him. (Note: you can’t keep screwing over key constituencies,
such as Wall Street, bankers, hedge funds, etc. whose help you need to get out
of this recession. Watch the lack of support for the “ Public Private
Partnership Investment Program announced last March.)
They are going to have to rewrite the book - "The Making of a President".
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That sends a chill down the spine DM.
The liberals have been pecking away at our liberty and freedom for decades and now they are getting bolder and bolder. This is the first President that folks are calling a Socialist and it looks like that guy was right on target. Liberalism is Socialism.
BHO's apology tour is right on that course. He wants the other Socialist Dictators out there to know he is one of them without coming straight out and saying so. He is going to the middle east next month but skipping Israel. Hmmmm....It will be interesting to hear his rhetoric and see if he continues to apologize for America.
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Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech: The Prophesy is here to bite us! 65 years later
A PROPHETIC 1944 SPEECH
Norman Mattoon Thomas (November 20, 1884 - December 19, 1968), and some
of us are old enough to remember him running for President, was a leading
American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the
Socialist Party of America .
Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech:
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the
name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist
program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened." He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as
a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party
has adopted our platform."
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Hope you aren't old....please define the word "old"....???? 
Universal Health and Old people.....
May 13, 2009 - 12:07 ET
Voice: The Glenn Beck program presents more truth behind America's march to socialism.
Glenn: Yesterday, I told how you how the socialized health system in the UK was letting the last survivor of the Titanic go bankrupt because they weren't covering her health costs. Mark my words, they're going to start selling us universal healthcare as a solution to our Social Security and Medicare costs, Medicaid, it's all going under. They're going to revamp it. This is really dangerous. Why is it dangerous?
Because look how it's happening and how it's working so wonderfully anywhere it's being tried. Hollywood, it kills me. Hollywood actually had step in. Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet bailed this 97 year old woman out to save her from healthcare despite endless examples of healthcare rationing in the healthcare system, Obama still full speed ahead on pursuing universal healthcare. He actually said that, you know, we all got to have the top flight medical care. It's not good enough that some people in our country have the best medical care. Excuse me?
How are you going to be able to afford everyone having top flight medical care?
You won't. You'll level the playing field which means we'll all have crappy healthcare. Don't worry, old people, though, it's going to be great. You're going to love it. When I say you're going to love it, I don't mean healthcare. I mean, heaven. You should see it especially this time of year. You can't get there fast enough. Let me tell you universal healthcare will help you do it. Why?
Because of the cost benefit analysis. At the Senate finance committee hearings on healthcare reform, Professor Stuart Altman of Brandeis University said that resources get wasted in the American healthcare system. Wasted. Well, what does that mean?
He means that it gets wasted specifically in one segment of the population. Old people, if you think I'm hyping it, his tonight to his words himself. Here's the audio record.
Voice: Remember, our population is aging and at the very, very elderly, the costs go down so that percentage should be falling and it's not. Second, the cost of care is growing by so much so at the same percentage it's worth a lot more. So let's go back to the issue of comparative effectiveness which we're supporting. That's where that can have a big impact. It's not the only place. But that's where the waste is. That's where people are using technologies that really either don't work at all or keep people alive for very limited and very high costs. Hospice is one option, but we do need to take account of the?? you know, I hate to say it, the cost benefit of some of the things we do and either we can do it directly or we can do it by bundling payments and let the delivery system deal with it. So it's a combination of the delivery system dealing with it or?? and/or you providing more information for people that make the right decisions, both for themselves and for their care.
Glenn: Do you understand what he just said?
What he said?? this should terrify people. He's saying you can either let the delivery system do it, in other words, the healthcare system can just say, yeah, you're not going to get that. You're too old. You're a drain on society. I'm sorry, no kidney dialysis for people over 70. What is it in the UK?
60. Some the things they cut off once you outlived your usefulness.
This is Nazi Germany stuff.
This is the kind of stuff that is progressive in its nature. It is eugenics. It is survival of the fittist. It is the reason why the abortion argument makes so much difference. You can't devalue life at either end because these people are waiting to swoop in and say it's just not worth doing these things. Don't waste the money on old people. They're not going to live long anyway. Spend it on someone who meets the requirements of our cost benefit analysis. So old people, thanks for all the contributions you made to society during your better years but now we're sorry to say it's time to send you to a better place, heaven.
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| You must be on a roll with the RED INK COMMENTS.. I bet RUSH must have said it on the radio show today.
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It was reported today that BHO wants to extend "unemployment benefits" to people who would be willing to go to school which in reality is "paying them" to get an education. Who monitors such a program, can you imagine the size of the bureaucracy to keep track of who is "officially" unemployed, filing for unemployment benefits, then extending the benefits while they go to school, but who monitors their success in staying in school, do we pay them for four or six years instead of them getting a job like most of us had to, and if they drop out, then do they have to pay back all the money they were paid to go to school in the first place? This is a disaster entitlement program waiting to happen. Think of all the opportunities for fraud here. Who's going to pay for it? This is like extending SCHIPS to so-called "kids" up to the age of 30 who still live at home. Get a grip here people. This is just another control factor and "creating government jobs". Everyone will be working for the government if BHO has his way. It's called communism.
Didn't the Indian tribes do that for anyone who qualified they would pay them to go to school so what happened is people in their fifties and sixties were going to school, of course never finishing anything. They just collected the money. It was supplemental income.
This administration is so inexperienced they have no idea what they are doing and are experimenting on our dime. In better times we may have been able to survive the idiocy, but now that we are SINKING in RED INK, we can't afford to do anymore of this nonsense. Is there no one in the democratic party who is fiscally responsible??
When is Barack Hussein Obama going to come out with ways to SAVE money, not just this constant barrage of spend, spend, spend some more, can't spend it fast enough mentality? What happened to all the Bush critics out there that kept screaming he was bankrupting our Country, well his spending looked like a Sunday outing to the ice cream store compared to this meglomaniac. It has to stop!!  
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There is a provision (little known) in the Stimulus legislation that voids any changes made back within the past couple of years in order to qualify for certain stimulus money. This happened in AZ regarding a change made in Medicaid eligibility. We passed legislation a couple of years ago requiring eligibility re-certification every 6 months from once a year. The Feds threatened to withhold stimulus money from the program if we didn’t revert back to once a year. The Governor asked that an exception be made for AZ and was turned down. Consequently, we now re-certify eligibility annually. The additional cost is significant since we're providing Medicaid benefits to people who would no longer qualify under the 6 month eligibility re-certification.
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Isn't this called EXTORTION??? Taking care of the Union is much more important than keeping California afloat in the eyes of the mighty annointed one....Do what I say or else???? Remember...money is power and this is how BHO wield's his power....
U.S. threatens to rescind stimulus money over wage cuts
The Obama administration threatens to rescind billions in stimulus money if Gov. Schwarzenegger and lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers.
By Evan Halper
May 8, 2009
Reporting from Sacramento -- The Obama administration is threatening to rescind billions of dollars in federal stimulus money if Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers approved in February as part of the budget.
Schwarzenegger's office was advised this week by federal health officials that the wage reduction, which will save California $74 million, violates provisions of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Failure to revoke the scheduled wage cut before it takes effect July 1 could cost California $6.8 billion in stimulus money, according to state officials.
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| I think this is funny. I posted some things before and some people on here told me that what I had posted was wrong because Snoopes said so. GEEEEEE
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| Anybody can post anything they want on Wikipedia. They can't be trusted either-- although they are USUALLY accurate.
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Reasons to trust Snopes
- They cite sources on each of their articles
- They don't always come to a conclusion of true/false, therefore they're willing to admit they don't know (instead of simply dismissing something they're not sure of as "false")
- They have contact information for them
- They indicate when their website has been updated
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hey accept credit in their name
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Reference_Investigation/Snopes"
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GEM127 wrote: So are you saying snoopes.com could be wrong?
Resolved Question
Does snopes.com have a liberal bias?
http://www.afa.net/snopesiswrong.asp
- Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
It is another propaganda site, much like Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting, they are designed to look like they give a balanced take on things but pick an item, a right versus left item, they both always take the lefts position.
Fun to laugh at but not to be taken seriously
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| So are you saying snoopes.com could be wrong?
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Yahoo! Answers
Is Snopes.com a reliable source?
Looks to me like they are not when it comes to politics. Anyone else notice the bias there?
Best Answer When it comes to political questions they seem to allow their own opinions to influence their findings.
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