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Posted: Sun Nov 8th, 2009 02:24 am |
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http://agenda.surpriseaz.com/Bluesheet.aspx?ItemID=3231&MeetingID=290
The city council will vote thursday night on extorting cooperation from business. This is being done under the guise of the rental accountability ordinance. However, if they can jack up business license fees unless the landlords cooperate with rules that they can not mandate in accordance with state law, where will they draw the line with other types of business. I think this fails a equal protection test, if only one part of business in additionally penalized unless they cooperate with the desires of the city. Business owners take note. See you thursday night.
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 11:17 pm |
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I emailed Mayor Lyn Truitt to-day asking about the Knights of Columbus issue that I addressed in the last council meeting, his answer after two weeks(I will see where things are).
Will we receive the money we are owed or will council snow ball us.
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Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 05:11 am |
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After a month going through the normal process to get the documentation for an accounting of our $10,000 with the Knights of Columbus and being told by the City Attorneys office (by letter) that there was none.
I addressed the Council last night about this money, saying that Mayor Lyn Truitt said we had no signed agreement with the K of C, after the meeting, the City Attorney told me that there was an agreement.
This is the transparency we have from our city.
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Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 07:28 pm |
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There were a lot of dissatified citizens at the Council Meeting last night.
Lets hope there is more involment in city government by the citizens of the City of Surprise.
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Craig Member

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Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 12:19 am |
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See you at the meeting...
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 10:37 pm |
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Fall Weather Friend wrote: Craig wrote: I have not heard anyone saying that bob. It all falls on us as citizens. If no one makes themselves heard then as far as they are concerned they are doing ok. If there is something people dont like and express their opinion, things can change. If no one says anything why change. Am i right bob. I for one have mentioned to some that i dont appreciate jamming the consent full every meeting. Mainly, not because i think their trying to get over on us but i would like to see the explanation of what those item are about. Putting it on the consent assumes that we dont need to know. I will keep hammering away. If you or anyone else does not like it they can join in and express that to the mayor and council. If no one else care it will be only you and me bob.
Excellent post Craig! Count me in!
The one thing that really counts is your vote. If you don't like what someone is doing - when re-election time comes around, vote them out. That is what happened to two council members this last election.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 06:31 pm |
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Craig wrote: I have not heard anyone saying that bob. It all falls on us as citizens. If no one makes themselves heard then as far as they are concerned they are doing ok. If there is something people dont like and express their opinion, things can change. If no one says anything why change. Am i right bob. I for one have mentioned to some that i dont appreciate jamming the consent full every meeting. Mainly, not because i think their trying to get over on us but i would like to see the explanation of what those item are about. Putting it on the consent assumes that we dont need to know. I will keep hammering away. If you or anyone else does not like it they can join in and express that to the mayor and council. If no one else care it will be only you and me bob.
Excellent post Craig! Count me in!
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 05:29 am |
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| Bob, just enjoy halloween, thanksgiving and Christmas. You know nothing is going to be improved until after January 1. Why not submit a list of specific things you want changed, accompanied by rationale supporting your proposals. As an ex-councilman, you surely realize generalizations simply cannot be addressed.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 04:45 am |
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Thats what i just said. Id say we agree.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 04:35 am |
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You can talk until you are blue in the face, unless a group of citizens come together and apply pressure on the council, they the Council will continue to ignore us as if we didn’t exist.
There are a lot of young citizens living in Surprise, that will be effected by what the council and city manager is doing today.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 03:58 am |
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I have not heard anyone saying that bob. It all falls on us as citizens. If no one makes themselves heard then as far as they are concerned they are doing ok. If there is something people dont like and express their opinion, things can change. If no one says anything why change. Am i right bob. I for one have mentioned to some that i dont appreciate jamming the consent full every meeting. Mainly, not because i think their trying to get over on us but i would like to see the explanation of what those item are about. Putting it on the consent assumes that we dont need to know. I will keep hammering away. If you or anyone else does not like it they can join in and express that to the mayor and council. If no one else care it will be only you and me bob.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 03:18 am |
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| Some are saying that most members of this council including the mayor should be recalled, for what they are doing.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 02:06 am |
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not thinking its a great idea, that is why I am asking
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Consent Item # 5, I move to approve appointing the City Manager or his designee, as Chief Fiscal Officer for the City of Surprise pursuant to A.R.S. 41-1279.07E.
What are your thoughts on the City Manager also being the Chief Fiscal Officer?
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 01:55 am |
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Consent Item # 5, I move to approve appointing the City Manager or his designee, as Chief Fiscal Officer for the City of Surprise pursuant to A.R.S. 41-1279.07E.
What are your thoughts on the City Manager also being the Chief Fiscal Officer?
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Posted: Tue Oct 20th, 2009 01:35 am |
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| I'd like to know the ramifications of #5
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Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2009 05:32 am |
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If they pass Consent Item #12 Consideration and action on Resolution No. 09-160, a resolution accepting maintenance of the streets and public water and sewer utilities located in Shoppes at Surprise Pointe.
If this is in a shopping center, they should be taken to court, or explain why they shouldn't be.
I feel the same way about some of the other consent items, this Thursday.
This Council is like previous Councils and will do what ever they want.
It is my opinion that the City of Surprise has been a gravy train for sub-dividers and developers of shopping centers.
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Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2009 04:57 am |
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| Citizens do not yet know if the council will approve the consent items. One council member can cause any particular item to be removed from the consent agenda. I am very hopeful the council will review items appropriate for placement on the consent agenda. The right time to do that review is in January, 2010, after Mike and Sharon assume council office. In my opinion, several other matters involving process and protocol need to be revised to enhance the level of knowledge of council members and the public at large .
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Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2009 03:55 am |
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When are the citizens of the City of Surprise going to wake up, staff with the help of Mayor Lyn Truitt and Council are giving away our assets for pennies on the dollar (consent items this Thursday), and we will keep on paying through the nose.
A give away program as bad as the Federal Government
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 03:17 am |
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rvukanovich wrote: We don’t need to sell bonds to increase our costs; the City of Surprise will now take the maintenance and responsibility of the roadway, water, and sewer lines in the shopping centers. Won’t even tell us what it will cost us in the financial impact report.
Consent Item # 12 next council meeting
http://agenda.surpriseaz.com/MeetingAgenda.aspx?meetingid=296
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Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 03:03 am |
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We don’t need to sell bonds to increase our costs; the City of Surprise will now take the maintenance and responsibility of the roadway, water, and sewer lines in the shopping centers. Won’t even tell us what it will cost us in the financial impact report.
Consent Item # 12 next council meeting.
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Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2009 10:01 pm |
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Due to circumstances outlined in the attached budget transfer memo, $46,500 will be required to be transferred from 21214-445-112-38999-29999. This amount anticipates that the city will operate the facility for a period of ten months.
Does anyone know what the City will use this building for to spend $46,500?
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Posted: Sat Oct 17th, 2009 04:26 am |
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The Surprise commitment to transparency and openness is taking another step forward with the introduction of "It's Your Money," a Web site with up to date city expenditures, revenues and other financial information.
The Surprise commitment to transparency and openness is taking another step forward with the introduction of "It's Your Money," a Web site with up to date city expenditures, revenues and other financial information.
Because they won’t address or answer our issues about how our money is being spent, their transparency and openness only makes me cry more.
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Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2009 08:10 pm |
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Surprise saw a 26.4 percent drop in the median price of homes sold in the first eight months of 2009, as foreclosures continued to make up the majority of sales, according to The Arizona Republic's analysis of Valley home value.
Data shows that 58 percent of the 2,757 homes sold in the Surprise area involved foreclosures.
Homebuyers paid a median price of $139,900, compared to a median price of $190,124 last year and $280,000 in 2006 at the height of the Valley's housing bubble.
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Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2009 09:01 pm |
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If the Council and City Manager took the time to look at the accounting system and the books that the city keeps, they would know that a plain accounting audit would only find the minor problems.
Having studied these books for years and pointing out error’s to previous councils to no avail or concern, lots of luck.
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Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 09:17 pm |
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Surprise's Acting Mayor...
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LilyShumLeung
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Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 07:49 pm |
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Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 06:40 pm |
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| Yes
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Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 06:30 pm |
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| What do you think, can we make it without voting for the Bonds?
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Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 06:08 pm |
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Financial Impact Statement:
The project facility will improve the Surprise economy and job base.
Are you just rolling on the ground laughing?
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Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2009 05:32 pm |
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http://agenda.surpriseaz.com/Bluesheet.aspx?ItemID=3077&MeetingID=387
6 dollar burgers and minimum wage jobs coming to surprise...
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Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 01:15 am |
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Craig, my eyes must be going! I can't find the time for the coffe talk! help!
Thanks
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Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 01:08 am |
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azsu wrote: I talked to my councilman at the meeting. he was one of the two working the room
Craig wrote:
http://www.surpriseaz.com/CurrentEvents.aspx?EID=2486
See you tomorrow???
So does that mean your in for tomorrow???
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 11:17 pm |
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I talked to my councilman at the meeting. he was one of the two working the room
Craig wrote:
http://www.surpriseaz.com/CurrentEvents.aspx?EID=2486
See you tomorrow???
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Posted: Fri Oct 9th, 2009 11:12 pm |
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http://www.surpriseaz.com/CurrentEvents.aspx?EID=2486
See you tomorrow???
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Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 03:35 am |
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azsu wrote: that was my first visit to the "taj", and to say the least it was interesting. It was interesting to watch 2 of them work the room...it was freezing in there. so maybe they moved around to keep warm. for finance not to know anything about these goings on is mind-blowing
I highly doubt this was your first visit.
But didn't you say you were leaving? Remember all the begging ....puuulllleazzzeee don't go?? LOL 
Why is it the 'taj"? It's our new City Hall and it's something we should and can all be proud of. I think for all you sore loser Paula Forster's to tag it as something sinister or illicit is extremely disrespectful. We have it, we own it, and it makes a statement about our City, we are no long podunk. Get over it. We are moving forward. Embrace it and help or get out of the way.
As far as it being cold, you are probably one of those who takes a sweater wherever you go even when it's 125 degrees outside. We see you all the time. Not everyone works on that thermostat. When you are in front of hot lights and wearing suits with ties, it's hot. Give it a break. I have to say it's disappointing to see such pettiness about our City leaders being written on here. Where were you guys when we had some serious issues, like voting excessive benefits for council members? The corruption and deal making and outrageous charges against one another? The headlines that were beyond embarassing, they were putrid.
You people are sounding very anal and churlish. I'm all for going after corruption, you know that. I'm not afraid to call it like it is, but I am also fair and want to make sure we are going after the right people before popping off with snide innuendo and snarky comments that really have no basis of fact. Let's see some proof, let's seem evidence, let's see some facts. Then we will listen. The rest of this garbage is just sour grapes and our City doesn't need that right now. JMHO 
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Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 02:47 am |
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The whole thing is crazy, Joe Johnson was spot on too. He brought up the fact the HR manager knew the payout wasnt right and said nothing. Thats the guy i want helping to run the city...
Glad you made it.
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Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 02:39 am |
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| that was my first visit to the "taj", and to say the least it was interesting. It was interesting to watch 2 of them work the room...it was freezing in there. so maybe they moved around to keep warm. for finance not to know anything about these goings on is mind-blowing
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Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 01:56 am |
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I dont think that it was a CYA presentation. There are just people who refuse to go beyond the knee jerk and look at things objectively. "Fire the CM" they say, its all his fault. When this is all said and done i dont believe that will be the case. Excellent turn out and participation. One of the benefits of actually attending the meeting is being able to participate and listen to city officials engage the citizens. I really need to make it a point to every meeting...
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azsu wrote: the cm was well prepared and his cya presentation was very good....my impression; he was nervous, his face turning red and spitting all over the podium and microphone as he talked...the man knew where the bodies are buried
That was pretty funny!
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Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 01:21 am |
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| It was an excellent turnout. Many good points were brought up. I thought it was an excellent turnout. It was nice to see such a big turnout. Glad to see that some citizens feel it is important get out and actually participate in their local government!
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Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 01:18 am |
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| http://www.azcentral.com/community/surprise/articles/2009/10/07/20091007gl-nwvmoney1009.html
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callmelou wrote: azsu wrote: the cm was well prepared and his cya presentation was very good....my impression; he was nervous, his face turning red and spitting all over the podium and microphone as he talked...the man knew where the bodies are buried
ewwwwwwwweeeeee...I am visualizing spit flying all over the place...did they designate the first two rows as wet zones as they do at the dolphin show?
no but we pitied paula
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azsu wrote: the cm was well prepared and his cya presentation was very good....my impression; he was nervous, his face turning red and spitting all over the podium and microphone as he talked...the man knew where the bodies are buried
ewwwwwwwweeeeee...I am visualizing spit flying all over the place...did they designate the first two rows as wet zones as they do at the dolphin show?Last edited on Wed Oct 7th, 2009 10:01 pm by callmelou
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| the cm was well prepared and his cya presentation was very good....my impression; he was nervous, his face turning red and spitting all over the podium and microphone as he talked...the man knew where the bodies are buried
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While I frequently differ from good ole Raz - This time his comments about the Council are 100% correct. He or she has identified the real issue at hand and the message is to chill out ,be concerned and alert but focus on the real issues of how to make Surprise the best of the best.
However, I am still not ready for Rush and Fox News.
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Fall Weather Friend wrote: Craig, I know you will be there. Good azsu, hope it works out. Ok, what about the other forum posters who are so outspoken and argumentative here! I mean that in the kindest way! Are you ready to come out and put your skill to the test? Although you wont have to speak tonight, just your presence alone will be noticed! Come on citizens of Surprise1 Be loud, be proud! LOL! Dont' stay behind an anonymous forum, get out and do your civic duty! Hey, just my little old opinion though. My motto is "Action speaks louder that words." I will be there.
I'm a little baffled at your glee here FWF. What's up with that? You sound like you are ready to march on City Hall as though there has been some intentional crime committed by the Council. That isn't the case at all. This is a staff issue that is being investigated and though it's disturbing which I admit is an understatement, it hasn't reached the level of criminal just yet but you sound like you are trying to rally a lynching mob. Sorry, don't get that at all. I will stay in the comfort of my living room and watch it. If there is something I find objectionable, then I will let them hear from me but how about allowing some opportunity here to let the CM speak his piece without hanging him first?? Geez, get a grip. 
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Craig, I know you will be there. Good azsu, hope it works out. Ok, what about the other forum posters who are so outspoken and argumentative here! I mean that in the kindest way! Are you ready to come out and put your skill to the test? Although you wont have to speak tonight, just your presence alone will be noticed! Come on citizens of Surprise1 Be loud, be proud! LOL! Dont' stay behind an anonymous forum, get out and do your civic duty! Hey, just my little old opinion though. My motto is "Action speaks louder that words." I will be there.
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Fall Weather Friend wrote: Has anyone decided to go to tonights meeting? Maybe all the useless bickering that takes place on here could actually be put to good use at that Counncil meeting tonight! Do show of hands! Me! anyone else I know Craig will be there and who else.......???????

You know Ill be there.
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