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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 07:02 pm |
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sweetfredanderson wrote: Brian Lameira wrote: Mike in the begining was for the bond but as he looked closer at it he changed his opinion. If you were at the last debate you would know that.
Brian, did you attend any of the bond meetings? Or the council meetings where the bond was discussed?
I have answered this question a few times in the blog and in the newspaper, so I will not repeat my self over and over. Dig a little deeper and you shall find the answer. Quit rehashing old news and look forward.
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City Councils have staggered terms for a good reason, unless having served on a council before, it takes up to a year to get a handle on the process of governing.
It is not intended to be a full time job and there are only 2 meetings a month.
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Brian Lameira wrote: Mike in the begining was for the bond but as he looked closer at it he changed his opinion. If you were at the last debate you would know that.
Brian, did you attend any of the bond meetings? Or the council meetings where the bond was discussed?
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Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 04:12 am |
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I wonder if Mayor lyn Truitt can work with Woodard & Wolcott
Excerpt from the Arizona Republic today
Woodard and Wolcott said they will fulfill campaign promises to focus on financial responsibility and transportation issues.
One of their top goals is to establish more oversight of how the city spends its money.
"It keeps them in better touch with the budget," she said. "That's part of the job of City Council: oversight.
Because this was exactly my thoughts, to look after the money, I believe this was one of the reasons that Lyn Truitt recalled me.
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I don't want to put words in Mike's mouth, so he should be the person to answer your question. As long as he saw the light is all I care about and as long as it was not a political move.
Anyone who runs for any political office should always stand for what they believe in and not for political gain. Then that tells me that person is just a liar and should be removed from office!
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 08:08 pm |
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Brian,?
What made Mike change his mind about selling the Bonds?
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 06:52 pm |
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| Mike in the begining was for the bond but as he looked closer at it he changed his opinion. If you were at the last debate you would know that.
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 05:18 pm |
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| The make-up of the city council for the Bonds remain about the same, Joe Johnson and Mike Woodard were for the issuance, while John longabauh and Sharon Wolcott were against it.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 05:54 pm |
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| Using the same Project Managers will get you the same poor results and overruns like our previous projects.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 06:54 pm |
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If you checked you would probably find that with every new building out there. Pretty typical of new construction. I don't know that anyone was in such a hurry to get it built however, this process began long before this council came into office. Contractors always have to come back and tweak things, no different than when you have a house built.
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What did we expect? They were in a hurry to get the new City Hall built and just rushed things through. I hope they are holding the companies accountable for the mess they caused, but I doubt it....
Are we ready to celebrate Mike Woodards win over Joe Johnson? I sure can't wait for the announcement! Hopefully teflon Joe will be out without going through a run off! I know Mike will represent the people of District 5 well once in office, I'm counting on it.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29th, 2009 01:17 am |
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62 million and no lights?
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LilyShumLeung
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There was nothing happening that I knew of to defend myself, on my recall papers the cause for my recall was that the people in the new District 5 did not elect me, which was true.
The city had during the time that I was in office changed the District Map, leaving only one resident in the new district who had voted for me in my election.
In other states this would not have been allowed, so you have to thank the SOS group and their leaders at that time. Lyn Truitt disbanded the group after enough signatures were collected for my recall, that’s another story to tell, which is all on the city’s records.
As far as I know it was a ploy to gain control over the City of Surprise by certain individuals.
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Seems like you shoulda done something about this back when it actually happened...but it's your reputaion, not mine. JMHO 
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I am not paranoid nor do I want to sound bitter in my defense, against Razenkn charges against me indirectly through what only the Opinion Column of the Arizona Republic and the SOS Group referred to as the Wrecking Crew. Neither of these groups ever said what the wrecking crew was accused of doing.
As far as I know it was a ploy to gain control over the City of Surprise by certain individuals.
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Posted: Fri Aug 28th, 2009 06:29 pm |
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rvukanovich wrote: Be honest Razenkn, Mayor Lyn Truitt and the Arizona Republic brain washed you and your group into believing something that was not there.
No offense, sir...but you sound bitter and paranoid.
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Be honest Razenkn, Mayor Lyn Truitt and the Arizona Republic brain washed you and your group into believing something that was not there.
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rvukanovich wrote: Razenkn
Let’s have a good debate about what you refer to as the “Wrecking Crew” created by Lyn Truitt and the Arizona Republic.
Wonder if this will be in the history of Surprise.
LOL , Mayor Truitt had nothing to do with that title, you guys earned it all by yourselves. Back then we had some real fact finders in the press and they nailed it. So if you feel the need to debate it to garner some personal attention, knock yourself out. But the Republic called it like it was. I have only brought it up because when you continue to slam this Mayor and Council without facts and out of pure bitterness, then you need to be reminded that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. But know this will be the only attention you get from me on this subject.
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Razenkn
Let’s have a good debate about what you refer to as the “Wrecking Crew” created by Lyn Truitt and the Arizona Republic.
Wonder if this will be in the history of Surprise.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 05:04 am |
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As there is no good news to be reported by the City Council of Surprise, let the Twitters and Bloggers in to do the reporting.
If the City of Surprise Council Members received no pay like the Dysart Shool Board, wonder how long they would stay on the job, as it is they are receiving big Bucks for what?
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Inside Surprise 
The Republic's Lily Leung gives an insider's view of Surprise City Hall and general city news. Do you have a suggestion, gripe or story idea? Contact Leung at 602-444-6924 or lily.leung@arizonarepublic.com. You also can follow her on http://www.twitter.com @LilyShumLeung for exclusive Surprise news updates.
Has the City of Surprise fallen this low with this council, that the Arizona Republic instead of articles, they now will be Blogging us.
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FYI, our city hall reporter from the Az republic started a Surprise insider blog. This will be news and information that is going on down at city hall that may not make it in the paper due to size, contend or other various reasons. Excellent post today on the voter turnout if you have not seen it yet.
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LilyShumLeung
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Razenkn wrote: azsu wrote: it appears that trent franks and many of you as well have very little knowledge about native american gaming...I suggest you study covenants and look up the covenants that tommy thompson negotiated. yes, native american casinos must be built on indian land....think purchase and consecration of land. as far as a once a year entertainment, why do you suppose there are so many casinos east of phoenix? hardly because people go once a year
I believe I made the point that it must be built on Indian land. As far as how often people gamble, I was strictly talking about myself azsu, making the point that I would hardly be an expert, why so snarky? I was getting all excited about the fact we are all playing nice and then you go and ruin it. Next you will be sounding just like mama and luci and say "get outta my sandbox"...Lol
Mr. Raz...bon jour!!! but azsu didn't say she thinks you're a expert...none of think you are an expert on anything....and since nobody but you is seriously talking about a casino in Suprise, why even comment on it? Follow this, Gino: if land is given to an Indian tribe, it becomes Indian land...got it? , ..I should repeat it: since the premise is that the land near 101 would be given to the tribe as compensation for the taking of land in the past from that tribe, that land, the land in Glendale, not Surprise, Gino, would be Indian land if it were given to the Indians...whew...this is going to be too difficult for you Gino...if I give you a dollar, and you had none to begin with, you will then have a dollar. If the tribe had no land near 101, but land near 101 is given to them, Gino, the tribe will then have land near 101. No wonder you keyboard v. speak. Nitely, mon cher.I Au revoir, Gino. Last edited on Mon Aug 24th, 2009 06:11 am by
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azsu wrote: raz, I am giving you information to research. if you wish to call that snarky, so be it. the comment of little knowledge was not directed at you
Hellllooooo, raz...she coulda been talk'n about cestmoi cuz you both look so much alike now-a-days. 
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Razenkn wrote: azsu wrote: it appears that trent franks and many of you as well have very little knowledge about native american gaming...I suggest you study covenants and look up the covenants that tommy thompson negotiated. yes, native american casinos must be built on indian land....think purchase and consecration of land. as far as a once a year entertainment, why do you suppose there are so many casinos east of phoenix? hardly because people go once a year
I believe I made the point that it must be built on Indian land. As far as how often people gamble, I was strictly talking about myself azsu, making the point that I would hardly be an expert, why so snarky? I was getting all excited about the fact we are all playing nice and then you go and ruin it. Next you will be sounding just like mama and luci and say "get outta my sandbox"...Lol
Those words are only saved for you Raz.
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Posted: Mon Aug 24th, 2009 04:49 am |
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| raz, I am giving you information to research. if you wish to call that snarky, so be it. the comment of little knowledge was not directed at you
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azsu wrote: it appears that trent franks and many of you as well have very little knowledge about native american gaming...I suggest you study covenants and look up the covenants that tommy thompson negotiated. yes, native american casinos must be built on indian land....think purchase and consecration of land. as far as a once a year entertainment, why do you suppose there are so many casinos east of phoenix? hardly because people go once a year
I believe I made the point that it must be built on Indian land. As far as how often people gamble, I was strictly talking about myself azsu, making the point that I would hardly be an expert, why so snarky? I was getting all excited about the fact we are all playing nice and then you go and ruin it. Next you will be sounding just like mama and luci and say "get outta my sandbox"...Lol
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azsu wrote: it appears that trent franks and many of you as well have very little knowledge about native american gaming...I suggest you study covenants and look up the covenants that tommy thompson negotiated. yes, native american casinos must be built on indian land....think purchase and consecration of land. as far as a once a year entertainment, why do you suppose there are so many casinos east of phoenix? hardly because people go once a year I already admitted to knowing little about the casino biz. It appears you have studied the issue? Can you enlighten us. It would be good info for all. I really dont have time to study gaming issues.
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cestmoi wrote: Razenkn wrote:
I don't know a lot about casino's but in Arizona don't they have to be built on an Indian Reservation? We don't have any reservations in Surprise that I know of do we? And they don't have to pay taxes to the Government so we wouldn't realize any revenue. I'm thinking this might not work out so well for Surprise.
We had some out of town company a couple of weeks ago and they LOVE to gamble so we took them to Wild Horse Pass and to the one in Maricopa Ach Chin or something like that. Wild Horse pass was about half full 11:00 Sunday and then we headed over to the one in Maricopa and it was PACKED. You could hardly find a place to park. I'm not a good gambler, never win, so I don't waste much money trying to but our friends did and they lost whatever they brought with them but they had a good time.
I'm a people watcher so I sat for a while because my nickels were gone and there was a young attractive woman about 30 sitting at the blackjack table and bet $300 and lost it in 10 seconds. I nearly fell off my seat. She just kind of shrugged her shoulders and placed another bet but I had to go so I didn't get to see how it turned out. But she didn't look like a high roller able to bet $300 to me and I'm thinking, hmmm, I wonder how many of those foreclosed homes mortgage payments went into these machines. A little cynical?? Maybe, but I saw a lot of that going on there and there was no question in my mind they couldn't afford what they were spending. You could see the angst in their faces and they didn't look like they were having fun to me.
I see gambling as a once a year or every other year entertainment, kind of like going to a concert but this was troubling to watch. I keep saying, I thought there was a recession going on, so sometimes the reality doesn't match up with the reality. Food places are always full, grocery store lines are long sometimes, the movies seem to be doing great, so I find it all a little baffling.
Anyway, I don't think a casino is going to be a reality in Surprise. That is probably why Glendale is fighting it because they don't get the tax revenue so everyone is using their streets and emergency responders but no pay unless they come on in and eat, drink, get gas, or shop. But if they are gambling it all away, that probably isn't going to happen either.
Ummmm...Mr. Raznkane...this is in Glendale, not Suprprise and if it happens, it would be the result of the government giving the land to the tribe in exchange for taking land in the past. Merci beau coup for the opportunity to enlighten you. Au revoir!
Ooohhh pepe, you little stinker. You still don't comprehend what you read. I was answering Brian's suggestion that maybe a casino would be a good idea for Surprise. Seems you have been on here a little too much today and you are having a hard time following along as usual. Try to keep up though if you want to insult, you should make sure you hit your target otherwise you sound very foolish, well not that is anything new but maybe I should say more foolish. I try really hard not to talk over your head but sometimes, it's impossible. I will work on that for you Pepe Le Pew'ette...Lol  .
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| it appears that trent franks and many of you as well have very little knowledge about native american gaming...I suggest you study covenants and look up the covenants that tommy thompson negotiated. yes, native american casinos must be built on indian land....think purchase and consecration of land. as far as a once a year entertainment, why do you suppose there are so many casinos east of phoenix? hardly because people go once a year
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Posted: Mon Aug 24th, 2009 04:12 am |
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| Hurrah for you Brian. I hope you and Jessie become actively involved in Surprise community affairs and that you don't become easily discouraged.
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Craig, that was a good article and very enlightening to me. It can really change your perspective on things when you see what kind of impact a casino can have good or bad. But this is what it is all about. Debating ideas and coming out with new ideas. That's what we need to do more in this city. I am just coming out with ideas that maybe haven't been thought of before or swept under the rug. We need fresh bold ideas to generate jobs for our residents. The more we discuss any and all ideas is a step forward to reality. This is what I wanted to bring to the council seat if I was elected. JMHO
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Razenkn wrote:
I don't know a lot about casino's but in Arizona don't they have to be built on an Indian Reservation? We don't have any reservations in Surprise that I know of do we? And they don't have to pay taxes to the Government so we wouldn't realize any revenue. I'm thinking this might not work out so well for Surprise.
We had some out of town company a couple of weeks ago and they LOVE to gamble so we took them to Wild Horse Pass and to the one in Maricopa Ach Chin or something like that. Wild Horse pass was about half full 11:00 Sunday and then we headed over to the one in Maricopa and it was PACKED. You could hardly find a place to park. I'm not a good gambler, never win, so I don't waste much money trying to but our friends did and they lost whatever they brought with them but they had a good time.
I'm a people watcher so I sat for a while because my nickels were gone and there was a young attractive woman about 30 sitting at the blackjack table and bet $300 and lost it in 10 seconds. I nearly fell off my seat. She just kind of shrugged her shoulders and placed another bet but I had to go so I didn't get to see how it turned out. But she didn't look like a high roller able to bet $300 to me and I'm thinking, hmmm, I wonder how many of those foreclosed homes mortgage payments went into these machines. A little cynical?? Maybe, but I saw a lot of that going on there and there was no question in my mind they couldn't afford what they were spending. You could see the angst in their faces and they didn't look like they were having fun to me.
I see gambling as a once a year or every other year entertainment, kind of like going to a concert but this was troubling to watch. I keep saying, I thought there was a recession going on, so sometimes the reality doesn't match up with the reality. Food places are always full, grocery store lines are long sometimes, the movies seem to be doing great, so I find it all a little baffling.
Anyway, I don't think a casino is going to be a reality in Surprise. That is probably why Glendale is fighting it because they don't get the tax revenue so everyone is using their streets and emergency responders but no pay unless they come on in and eat, drink, get gas, or shop. But if they are gambling it all away, that probably isn't going to happen either.
Ummmm...Mr. Raznkane...this is in Glendale, not Suprprise and if it happens, it would be the result of the government giving the land to the tribe in exchange for taking land in the past. Merci beau coup for the opportunity to enlighten you. Au revoir!
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cestmoi wrote: I reallly, really, really, hate to agree with Trent Franks but..here it is..his arguement is valid...and the casino pays no tax (altho it's employees would). http://www.house.gov/list/speech/az02_franks/GlendaleCasinoProposal.html Good info. I had no idea. The casino plans always seem to be viewed as a golden goose type of plan to me.
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I don't know a lot about casino's but in Arizona don't they have to be built on an Indian Reservation? We don't have any reservations in Surprise that I know of do we? And they don't have to pay taxes to the Government so we wouldn't realize any revenue. I'm thinking this might not work out so well for Surprise.
We had some out of town company a couple of weeks ago and they LOVE to gamble so we took them to Wild Horse Pass and to the one in Maricopa Ach Chin or something like that. Wild Horse pass was about half full 11:00 Sunday and then we headed over to the one in Maricopa and it was PACKED. You could hardly find a place to park. I'm not a good gambler, never win, so I don't waste much money trying to but our friends did and they lost whatever they brought with them but they had a good time.
I'm a people watcher so I sat for a while because my nickels were gone and there was a young attractive woman about 30 sitting at the blackjack table and bet $300 and lost it in 10 seconds. I nearly fell over. She just kind of shrugged her shoulders and placed another bet but I had to go so I didn't get to see how it turned out. But she didn't look like a high roller able to bet $300 to me and I'm thinking, hmmm, I wonder how many of those foreclosed homes mortgage payments went into these machines. A little cynical?? Maybe, but I saw a lot of that going on there and there was no question in my mind they couldn't afford what they were spending. You could see the angst in their faces and they didn't look like they were having fun to me.
I see gambling as a once a year or every other year entertainment, kind of like going to a concert but this was troubling to watch. I keep saying, I thought there was a recession going on, so sometimes the reality doesn't match up with the reality. Food places are always full, grocery store lines are long sometimes, the movies seem to be doing great, so I find it all a little baffling.
Anyway, I don't think a casino is going to be a reality in Surprise. That is probably why Glendale is fighting it because they don't get the tax revenue so everyone is using their streets and emergency responders but no pay unless they come on in and eat, drink, get gas, or shop. But if they are gambling it all away, that probably isn't going to happen either.
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| I reallly, really, really, hate to agree with Trent Franks but..here it is..his arguement is valid...and the casino pays no tax (altho it's employees would). http://www.house.gov/list/speech/az02_franks/GlendaleCasinoProposal.html
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Ok, we do agree on jobs and revenue. Im only asking because i dont know. Are dealers, waiters and waitresses, pit bosses ect considered high paying jobs? Wont those jobs be mostly limited to tribe members? Im sure there will be a few management jobs that pay well but i am sure they will be limited. With the exception of spring training i think for a casino to work here, like glendale we would need a primary draw like the cardinals to make it work. I have my doubts that a casino alone will do it. But ya gotta start somewhere maybe.
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That is true for those who can't control themselves. We can not always be responsible for others actions. I think having a casino will generate much needed high paying jobs where Surprise residents can work. The resort will draw in some out of state people that will gamble and play. This goes for the spring training teams that stay in Scottsdale while they are here. Maybe if we had more to offer they would stay in Surprise. This is just a suggestion that the concil can consider. I would vote for it for sure. Jobs and revenue is what it is all about. I know we agree on that...
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The only part of that i dont get in general is, are the same people who cant afford their mortgage the same people who will be gambling? True there is tax revenue and jobs but who is going to support it. People are speaking out against spending 175.00 dollars a year to fund a bond to help the city, but are willing to go to the casino? It just does not add up to me. But maybe. If we had one here, i would go for the cheap buffet but not to gamble.
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Then they are separately owned just happen to be next to each other. There is always a way as long as people work together.
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| don't think thats possible if it is a native american casino....and putting in a casino at the racetrack was tried and it didn't work
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I would like to see the casino with a resort next to each other somewhere on Bell road before Buckeye. A casino alone will generate a few hundred jobs with a great tax revenue beside good paying jobs for Surprise residents. The jobs should only be offered to Surprise residents when first opened for the first 6 months. A lot of cities are doing this with other job opportunities.
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Brian Lameira wrote: Our city should consider having a casino here. It will generate much needed jobs and taxes. They are looking for a place to build so I say why not here.
Wow, if that isn't the truth! Can't get jobs any other way besides Walmart after Walmart, so why not? Let's get a change of pace here.
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Brian Lameira
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Go to my website http://www.vote4vet.com
I got a new job at the VA in the Research Department and would not have been able to make it to the meetings on time let alone at the all day'ers they have during the week. I always said if I couldn't give 100% of my time to the people of my District and the city then I was not fit to hold office. I expect that with anyone who holds any level of office in Government.
I'm sure Mike will do a great job! We are a like in a lot of ways and he will not give up like I wouldn't. We need changes in our city council including a few other areas that I will not mention yet.
I like to see the city council become a full-time job not a part-time job. They are putting in a lot of hours and most of the time it is on their time while at their job ( those that still work). Most of the people on the council are retired. They have the time to dedicate themselves to the job but they are not representative of the community. I mean that there need to be people of all ages not just retirees. They look at things differently then people who have kids. Look around Surprise and tell me what the city really has to offer to families. Not much at all. I talk with Mike a lot and have given him some ideas that I was looking at going forward with if I won.
I hope to run again in 4 years if my job permits me the time to do so and ONLY if I can give 100% as I have previously stated. Unless Mike runs again.
I am now on the architectural committee for Kingswood park and will most likely run for a spot on the board of directors. I want to make major changes to the CC&Rs but first I have to get the public involved or it can't be done.
I hope that answers some questions people may have had about me.
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Posted: Sun Aug 23rd, 2009 09:23 pm |
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| aha! someone with brains....why did you quit?
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Our city should consider having a casino here. It will generate much needed jobs and taxes. They are looking for a place to build so I say why not here.
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| GOD BLESS AMERICA
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| doesn't the state of arizona have covenants with the tribes that have casinos south and east of phoenix...if they don't they should. every casino that I have been in in arizona have been packed....many employees and not all native american
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| Glendale has enough problems with the deals that they have made without their voters knowledge.
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azsu wrote: does anyone know why glendale does not want a casino?
It will pull entertainment dollars out from other venues, ie Jobbing and it's local restaurants...I'm not sure if the revenue in the state is taxable if it's produced on a reservation. Then there is the 'social' cost of seniors and others strapped for cash gambling way more than they can afford. Other casinos have had problems with crimes (if on a reservation) where only the tribal police has authority to enforce laws, inspect resaurants, etc.
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