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Unemployment Tops 10 Percent In 16 States In June
Jul 17 10:45 AM US/Eastern
By JEANNINE AVERSA
AP Economics Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. Labor Department says unemployment topped 10 percent in 16 states last month. The rate in Michigan surpassed 15 percent, the first time any state hit that mark since 1984.
Home to the nation's struggling auto makers, Michigan has been clobbered by lost factory jobs. Its jobless rate of 15.2 percent in June was the highest in the country, but the record-high for the state was 16.9 percent in November 1982.
Still, the government says it's the first time in 25 years that any state has suffered an unemployment rate of at least 15 percent. In 1984, it was West Virginia.
The national unemployment rate is 9.5 percent, a 26-year high, and is expected to hit 10 percent by year-end.
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OldEagleEye wrote: Keep this in mind as you read and hear about CIT being denied any TARP money:
CIT is a factor, meaning it loans money to retailers, manufacturer's and suppliers against their accounts receivable (as collateral). The borrowers depend on access to "factored funds" to pay for inventory and otherwise cover operating expenses, mostly during lean months (like the summer months). This source of funds is particularly important today, since there is no "conventional" credit available.
A CIT bankruptcy will cut off many, many retailer's, manufacturer's and supplier's access to factored funds, thus cutting off their cash flows. They will go bankrupt very quickly because, in a factor's bankruptcy, it's debtors become it's creditors. Bankruptcy proceedings don't proceed fast enough for them to gain access to any money fast enough to stay afloat.
The ripple effect of a CIT bankruptcy will be far-reaching and very visible -- on Main Street, in the strip malls, in what's left of the mega-malls; in the industrial parks; along the railroad sidings; "across the tracks".
CIT going down will make the GM and Chrysler bailouts look like the farces they were. This one will hit at home after home after home, not at any union halls.
I have been and continue to be against "bailouts", as defined by the use of TARP funds to date. This one might well be an exception I'm willing to make. Not "bailing out" CIT and its failure would affect too many purely innocent people -- not fat-cat investment bankers, union bosses and incompetent bank executives and brain-dead industrial empire managers.
Treasury is inclined to help them out. The stumbling block seems to be FDIC head Bair.
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Keep this in mind as you read and hear about CIT being denied any TARP money:
CIT is a factor, meaning it loans money to retailers, manufacturer's and suppliers against their accounts receivable (as collateral). The borrowers depend on access to "factored funds" to pay for inventory and otherwise cover operating expenses, mostly during lean months (like the summer months). This source of funds is particularly important today, since there is no "conventional" credit available.
A CIT bankruptcy will cut off many, many retailer's, manufacturer's and supplier's access to factored funds, thus cutting off their cash flows. They will go bankrupt very quickly because, in a factor's bankruptcy, it's debtors become it's creditors. Bankruptcy proceedings don't proceed fast enough for them to gain access to any money fast enough to stay afloat.
The ripple effect of a CIT bankruptcy will be far-reaching and very visible -- on Main Street, in the strip malls, in what's left of the mega-malls; in the industrial parks; along the railroad sidings; "across the tracks".
CIT going down will make the GM and Chrysler bailouts look like the farces they were. This one will hit at home after home after home, not at any union halls.
I have been and continue to be against "bailouts", as defined by the use of TARP funds to date. This one might well be an exception I'm willing to make. Not "bailing out" CIT and its failure would affect too many purely innocent people -- not fat-cat investment bankers, union bosses and incompetent bank executives and brain-dead industrial empire managers.
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How's The Economy? Barney Frank: "Compared To What?"
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-july-13-2009/barney-frank-extended-interview-pt--1
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So, does this mean that wireless service is no longer a luxury but a necessity? I want free cell service! Why is this company GIVING AWAY phones and service? And does this mean that customers who already pay are going to have increased rates to pay for this? These costs have to come from somewhere. This is ridiculous.
However, I guess it's good to know that if the government makes us all poor, at least we will have a phone. What a joke!
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Poor In Colorado May Get Free Cell Phones
TracFone Wireless wants to give cellphones to Coloradans who receive public assistance.
Thousands of low-income Coloradans reliant on public assistance could get a free cellphone under a plan before the state Public Utilities Commission.
If approved, the plan by TracFone Wireless in Miami would make Colorado the 17th state it has settled into with free cell service for the indigent, a form of wireless welfare that proponents say taps into one of the last untapped markets for the telecom technology.
"Our hope is to have it up and running by September," said Jose Fuentes, TracFone's director of government relations. "Historically, it's a very underutilized service, and we'd like that to change."
The program is a twist on Lifeline, a long-standing federal subsidy that provides low-income families with a break on their land-line telephone bill in order to ensure emergency 911 service.
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This is probably one of the major reason why President Obama's approval rating is falling. The US citizens are finally figuring out that he lied to us about his stimulus (pork filled) package. The only jobs it seemed to create is those for his 30 some new czars.
Foreclosures rise 15 percent in first half of 2009
Foreclosures keep soaring as unemployment becomes main cause of housing woes
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of U.S. households on the verge of losing their homes soared by nearly 15 percent in the first half of the year as more people lost their jobs and were unable to pay their monthly mortgage bills.
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Razenkn wrote: LucifersLandlord wrote: designman124 wrote: Poll: American's Don't Want Another
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:35 PM
By: Investor's Business Daily
The stimulus isn't working, and Americans don't want another – that’s the finding of a new IBD/TIPP Poll. So why is Congress mulling a second stimulus when the first has so obviously failed?
The poll found that 53 percent of Americans believe the $787 billion stimulus plan passed in February was "not effective" in "getting the economy going in the right direction." Just 43 percent said it was. Respondents were even more emphatic — 54 percent to 39 percent — in rejecting the second stimulus the White House and congressional Democrats are mulling.
Ok this is getting funny. Are you covering the night shift????
I think you are losing it luci, what is funny about that?  I think it's criminal that Barack Hussein Obama is even thinking about a second stimuLESS, what a joke. How stupid does he think you are anyway? Don't you have any pride at all?
Wow 2 personal attacks against me in one post and you still had no clue as to why I posted what I did. Now there is an opportunist for ya. Last edited on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 01:43 pm by LucifersLandlord
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Craig wrote: .
On your picture, HAHAHAHAHA now thats funny....
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LucifersLandlord wrote: designman124 wrote: Poll: American's Don't Want Another
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:35 PM
By: Investor's Business Daily
The stimulus isn't working, and Americans don't want another – that’s the finding of a new IBD/TIPP Poll. So why is Congress mulling a second stimulus when the first has so obviously failed?
The poll found that 53 percent of Americans believe the $787 billion stimulus plan passed in February was "not effective" in "getting the economy going in the right direction." Just 43 percent said it was. Respondents were even more emphatic — 54 percent to 39 percent — in rejecting the second stimulus the White House and congressional Democrats are mulling.
Ok this is getting funny. Are you covering the night shift????
I think you are losing it luci, what is funny about that? I think it's criminal that Barack Hussein Obama is even thinking about a second stimuLESS, what a joke. How stupid does he think you are anyway? Don't you have any pride at all?
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designman124 wrote: Poll: American's Don't Want Another
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:35 PM
By: Investor's Business Daily
The stimulus isn't working, and Americans don't want another – that’s the finding of a new IBD/TIPP Poll. So why is Congress mulling a second stimulus when the first has so obviously failed?
The poll found that 53 percent of Americans believe the $787 billion stimulus plan passed in February was "not effective" in "getting the economy going in the right direction." Just 43 percent said it was. Respondents were even more emphatic — 54 percent to 39 percent — in rejecting the second stimulus the White House and congressional Democrats are mulling.
Ok this is getting funny. Are you covering the night shift????
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Poll: American's Don't Want Another
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:35 PM
By: Investor's Business Daily
The stimulus isn't working, and Americans don't want another – that’s the finding of a new IBD/TIPP Poll. So why is Congress mulling a second stimulus when the first has so obviously failed?
The poll found that 53 percent of Americans believe the $787 billion stimulus plan passed in February was "not effective" in "getting the economy going in the right direction." Just 43 percent said it was. Respondents were even more emphatic — 54 percent to 39 percent — in rejecting the second stimulus the White House and congressional Democrats are mulling.
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OldEagleEye wrote: Ms Boots:
None that I know of.....they were too honest and smart to deceive and mislead as the current bunch has and continues to do. Anyway, we're all waiting for you to tell us what to do. You seem to have answers for everything; just some problems articulating them convincingly or coherently.
They weren't that smart. They ran a unpredictable senior from Az for Pres. and a less than one term quitter-gov from Alaska as his VP....don't count this program a failure yet.
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Has Obama quite spending our tax money yet?
Keep this up and all you old folks will have no time login here because you will have to go back to work. LOL 
How come no one remembers all those great campaign promised.
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Ms Boots:
None that I know of.....they were too honest and smart to deceive and mislead as the current bunch has and continues to do. Anyway, we're all waiting for you to tell us what to do. You seem to have answers for everything; just some problems articulating them convincingly or coherently.
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Only 10% of the stimulus money got out..We know y'all want the President and the country to fail...you're very premature tho.....and what great ideas did the McCain/Palin party have to pull us from the bush initiated mess we're in?
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So much for stimulation and economic vitality........per Warren Buffett's key indicator.
Buffett’s Most-Watched Index Takes a Tumble: Chart of the Day
By David Wilson July 10 (Bloomberg)
For Warren Buffett, freight-train traffic has the kind of importance that Alan Greenspan attached to scrap-steel prices as Federal Reserve chairman -- and it isn’t going his way.
The CHART OF THE DAY compares the number of freight carloads at six of the largest U.S. railroads this year with the same period of 2008. Shipments tumbled 19.2 percent through last week from a year earlier, the Association of American Railroads reported yesterday.
Buffett follows this gauge more closely than any other index, Bianna Golodryga, a reporter for ABC’s “Good Morning America” program, said yesterday after she interviewed the billionaire investor. Its drop worries him, she reported.
Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. owns a 23 percent stake in Burlington Northern Santa Fe Inc., the biggest U.S. railroad by revenue. The holding’s value was $5.25 billion at yesterday’s close. Among Berkshire’s common-share investments, only Coca- Cola Co. and Wells Fargo & Co. were bigger.
Berkshire also has stakes in Norfolk Southern Corp. and Union Pacific Corp., two other U.S. railroads. The value of those shares totaled about $545 million yesterday.
Greenspan followed the scrap-steel market to gain insight into the U.S. economy’s prospects. The rate at which cars and trucks are scrapped “has a pronounced cyclical pattern,” he wrote in a study that the Fed released in 1996.
To contact the reporter on this story in New York at dwilson@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: July 9, 2009 21:01 EDT
The chart (click the Graphics tab at the top of the article):
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aPAQLQ0ebMQI
Local note: Have you noticed that BNSF traffic on the Peavine is down to one train each way per day and that the auto receiving and trans-shipment yard on Grand Avenue has been empty for months. If it weren't for the liquified natural gas and the UPS trailers full of internet purchase shipments coming down from the main line at Kingman, there'd be no trains.
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Boxer faces 'challenge of a lifetime' on climate change bill
By Rob Hotakainen, McClatchy Newspapers Rob Hotakainen, Mcclatchy Newspapers Sat Jul 11, 6:00 am ET
WASHINGTON — If the Senate doesn't pass a bill to cut global warming, Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer says, there will be dire results: droughts, floods, fires, loss of species, damage to agriculture, worsening air pollution and more.
She says there's a huge upside, however, if the Senate does act: millions of clean-energy jobs, reduced reliance on foreign oil and less pollution for the nation's children.
Boxer is engaged in her biggest sales job ever. The stakes couldn't be higher as she faces one of the toughest high-profile acts of her lengthy career: getting Congress to sign off on historic legislation to lower greenhouse-gas emissions.
"For Barbara Boxer , it's both the opportunity and a challenge of a lifetime," said Frank O'Donnell , the president of Clean Air Watch .
As the Senate's top-ranked environmentalist, Boxer heads the influential committee that began hearings on the issue this week. She's aiming to get her panel to pass a bill by the end of September. For months now, she's been meeting with senators one on one and hosting a group of about 30 senators for "Tuesday at 12" meetings to develop a strategy to win 60 votes, enough to overcome a Republican filibuster.
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It's working:
Obama spoke after stocks fell for a fourth week on concern that an economic recovery will be delayed. A government report last week showed that employers cut 467,000 jobs in June and the unemployment rate rose to 9.5 percent, the highest since 1983.
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http://www.breitbart.tv/no-second-stimulus-obama-says-recovery-act-has-worked-as-intended/
So i guess he intended it to fail...
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WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH THE EXTRA TARP MONEY?
The government has some money left over from the $700 billion bank bailout. There is something like $259 billion in the fund plus another $70 billion that has been repaid by the banks. So now the debate remains ... what should be done with the "extra" money?
Tax cheat Tim Geithner wants to keep money in the program to provide "headroom" for "additional flexibility to Treasury in its efforts to stabilize the economy and build the foundation for long-term economic growth." Politicians, like Barney Frank, are just itching to get their hands on the money to be used for entitlement program. Slobbering Barney, for example, wants to use the dividends earned through interest owed by banks to go toward affordable housing programs .. read: welfare.
But the answer here should be really simple, folks. Give the money back to the taxpayers. This is not the government's money. It is not money that was willingly donated to Timothy Geithner's piggy bank. This is money that has been seized by the government from you, the taxpayers. How hard is this?
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Downplaying a second stimulus is just a safe course for Obama; he knows darn well that one would never make it out of Congress, in spite of the far left's screams and rants.
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Thank you President Obama, for a least not throwing good money after bad - that is unless this is all just a lie to help with your popularity.
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama on Saturday dismissed the idea that the United States might need a second stimulus to jolt the economy out of recession and urged Americans to be patient with his economic recovery plan.
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If you think that President Obama's stimulus package is only going to cost us some $780 billion dollars, you are sorely mistaken. There is a provision in the bill that will allow states to borrow money and guess who will pay the interest - we will, the taxpayers of the United States.
Now the states who have mismanaged their funds for years will be able to bail themselves out at a 0 percent interest rate - because we will pay that interest.
Thank you President Obama, what I really want to do is pay for some of these states that just spent and spent and spent without any accountability.
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Some recovery! A 3 (three) mile long string of 200 "unemployed" UP locomotives, in storage and looking for work, in Idaho.
 
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Ms. Boots wrote: Fannie wrote: Things must be boring at the Kiddie Care today cause Mrs. F is back on her soap box. As if things would be so great if McBush had won the election. Remember, it was George W. Bush and the Republican Party that got the United States in the mess it's in now. But you die hard Republicans never admit to it.
MF said she has the summer off...probably needs to wash all those diapers...What the dolts don't get is that the unemployment rate would be a lot higher if not for the stimulus package.....the Republicans have also taken their highly sought after administrative and fiscal skills to the state house...can't wait to see who plays Harper on SNL.
Can't hardly tell the voices apart...who is who....BIG Booty or BIG Fannie...LOL
Trying to talk facts with the BIGS is like chewing on a brick, it's useless and painful MrsF. Why bother. The libs on here HATE it when we talk facts when it places their luvbug in a poor light and his so-called emergency stimulus was doomed to fail from day one that is why the republicans voted no.
First it wasn't read and second it didn't have any "stimulus" in it. The only thing stimulated was Government expansion, not the private sector who actually provide the real jobs and tax revenue. Everyone said it wouldn't work and of course it hasn't now the libs are saying "oh, unemployment would have been much higher" what a joke. The very rationale Barack Hussein Obama used to sell it was "If we don't pass it immediately, unemployment will rise as high as 8 percent" and it is now 9.5 percent so he was just passing gas on that one too.
Even Little Joey came straight out and said "uhh, well we guessed wrong" on the level of the recession...GUESSED?? They were guessing with almost a TRILLION dollars? Has anyone seen the incredible waste that is coming to light on what has been spent so far? It's junk. This administration, Little Joey who is supposed to overseeing the spending to make sure there isn't any waste (oxymoron) must be doing it after cocktails because it's mostly garbage.
They need to stop the spending, rescind the stimulus since it's OBVIOUSLY not working and let's start cutting back on Czars and Cabinet members payroll and get rid of the 400 more IRS employees he hired to go after the tax payer. How about we start with being fiscally responsible right at the center of the spending, the WH? Now there's a wacky concept for you.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090702/pl_politico/24441
This is too good. I think its time to shut out the liberals in all political conversations. They are not real concerned citizens they are robots.
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Ms. Boots wrote: MrsF wrote: Ms. Boots wrote: Fannie wrote: Things must be boring at the Kiddie Care today cause Mrs. F is back on her soap box. As if things would be so great if McBush had won the election. Remember, it was George W. Bush and the Republican Party that got the United States in the mess it's in now. But you die hard Republicans never admit to it.
MF said she has the summer off...probably needs to wash all those diapers...What the dolts don't get is that the unemployment rate would be a lot higher if not for the stimulus package.....the Republicans have also taken their highly sought after administrative and fiscal skills to the state house...can't wait to see who plays Harper on SNL.
I don't even understand this post enough to comment. We go from dirty diapers to unemployment rates to SNL, all in 5 lines! All I have to say is...Huh?
I'll address the political parts since the name of this thread is Obama's American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan. Um, first of all the stimulus money is being used to pay for unemployment insurance. Federal stimulus funds are being given to the states, which in turn, are paying out their unemployment benefits. Second of all, the funds for the stimulus package...where do you suppose it is coming from? You guessed it..the few people who still have jobs and are paying taxes. So, you are charging the working stiffs to pay the government, who in turn, pays their wages. Does that make sense to you? Charge me taxes so that I can pay my salary and a bunch of others'? That's brilliant! NOT!!
sorry you have trouble keeping up...maybe it's because you're grossly mistaken about the stimulus package. You wrote, "..all the stimulus money is being used to pay for unemployment insurance..." to which I reply, HUH???
Are you kidding me? Your creative editing really does make it look confusing. I didn't say that all of the stimulus money is being used to pay for unemployment insurance. Look at the part before your ellipses. It clearly states that "FIRST OF ALL, the stimulus money is being used to pay..." It doesn't say ALL, it says FIRST OF ALL - a HUGE difference! Obviously, UC is just one item out of many, many items paid for via the SP. No Duh! Secondly, you're mistaken about the source of income for the stimulus package when you tell me that the exclusive source of the income is from wage earner's taxes ...you didn't know corporations pay tax... Um, if people don't have jobs, they aren't buying stuff, so where do these corporations get the money to pay these taxes? you're not familiar with unearned income which is taxable? I could go on with more info for you but I don't think you could handle it.
That income can only be taxed at so much as well. People aren't investing in markets for unearned income like they used to be. You know why? People don't have liquid capital like they used to for investing.
You seem to think that people with a little bit or a lotta bit extra should be expected to support the rest of us. People with wealth are not a bottomless pit to extract their money from. There aren't enough of them to support the rest of us. We just may have to "bite the bullet" and that's what I meant by actually allowing the market to play out and allowing a recession or depression to occur. You just can't do Robin Hood and expect it to carry meaning long term. You are putting a band aid on a gushing carotid artery. Not at all effective.
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MrsF wrote: Ms. Boots wrote: Fannie wrote: Things must be boring at the Kiddie Care today cause Mrs. F is back on her soap box. As if things would be so great if McBush had won the election. Remember, it was George W. Bush and the Republican Party that got the United States in the mess it's in now. But you die hard Republicans never admit to it.
MF said she has the summer off...probably needs to wash all those diapers...What the dolts don't get is that the unemployment rate would be a lot higher if not for the stimulus package.....the Republicans have also taken their highly sought after administrative and fiscal skills to the state house...can't wait to see who plays Harper on SNL.
I don't even understand this post enough to comment. We go from dirty diapers to unemployment rates to SNL, all in 5 lines! All I have to say is...Huh?
I'll address the political parts since the name of this thread is Obama's American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan. Um, first of all the stimulus money is being used to pay for unemployment insurance. Federal stimulus funds are being given to the states, which in turn, are paying out their unemployment benefits. Second of all, the funds for the stimulus package...where do you suppose it is coming from? You guessed it..the few people who still have jobs and are paying taxes. So, you are charging the working stiffs to pay the government, who in turn, pays their wages. Does that make sense to you? Charge me taxes so that I can pay my salary and a bunch of others'? That's brilliant! NOT!!
sorry you have trouble keeping up...maybe it's because you're grossly mistaken about the stimulus package. You wrote, "..all the stimulus money is being used to pay for unemployment insurance..." to which I reply, HUH??? Obviously, UC is just one item out of many, many items paid for via the SP. Secondly, you're mistaken about the source of income for the stimulus package when you tell me that the exclusive source of the income is from wage earner's taxes ...you didn't know corporations pay tax...you're not familiar with unearned income which is taxable? I could go on with more info for you but I don't think you could handle it.
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Ms. Boots wrote: Fannie wrote: Things must be boring at the Kiddie Care today cause Mrs. F is back on her soap box. As if things would be so great if McBush had won the election. Remember, it was George W. Bush and the Republican Party that got the United States in the mess it's in now. But you die hard Republicans never admit to it.
MF said she has the summer off...probably needs to wash all those diapers...What the dolts don't get is that the unemployment rate would be a lot higher if not for the stimulus package.....the Republicans have also taken their highly sought after administrative and fiscal skills to the state house...can't wait to see who plays Harper on SNL.
I don't even understand this post enough to comment. We go from dirty diapers to unemployment rates to SNL, all in 5 lines! All I have to say is...Huh?
I'll address the political parts since the name of this thread is Obama's American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan. Um, first of all the stimulus money is being used to pay for unemployment insurance. Federal stimulus funds are being given to the states, which in turn, are paying out their unemployment benefits. Second of all, the funds for the stimulus package...where do you suppose it is coming from? You guessed it..the few people who still have jobs and are paying taxes. So, you are charging the working stiffs to pay the government, who in turn, pays their wages. Does that make sense to you? Charge me taxes so that I can pay my salary and a bunch of others'? That's brilliant! NOT!!
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Fannie wrote: Things must be boring at the Kiddie Care today cause Mrs. F is back on her soap box. As if things would be so great if McBush had won the election. Remember, it was George W. Bush and the Republican Party that got the United States in the mess it's in now. But you die hard Republicans never admit to it.
MF said she has the summer off...probably needs to wash all those diapers...What the dolts don't get is that the unemployment rate would be a lot higher if not for the stimulus package.....the Republicans have also taken their highly sought after administrative and fiscal skills to the state house...can't wait to see who plays Harper on SNL.
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LOL, kinda makes you wonder just how many nics there are for this little lady. She makes up her little following to make us think there are a bunch of people who think this way...meanwhile it all makes sense...there can't POSSIBLY be two or more crazies out there who support the outlandish views shared by the original (??) Never Rational.
Is Clarz also her? Is Mamazoyd also her? Is Senior Moment also her? Who else have I missed? Sheesh! If they would just use the same nic it would be easier to keep the conversation straight. What a pathetic joke she is for making up all of these personalities!
Hummer/Big Bootie/Big Fannie, you have issues, my dear!
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BigSurprize wrote: Fannie wrote: Things must be boring at the Kiddie Care today cause Mrs. F is back on her soap box. As if things would be so great if McBush had won the election. Remember, it was George W. Bush and the Republican Party that got the United States in the mess it's in now. But you die hard Republicans never admit to it.
So now we know where Humdwig landed...she's the only person obsessed with that theory about MrsF. Since Fannie-Fannie-Fo-Fannie craves attention...that's another give away. Humdwig was such a needy little critter...
Holy COW... looks like we have ourselves a blogger trifecta! Humdwig, BIG Booty, Fannie....LOL Who wudda thunk?? They don't sound anything alike..LOL
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Fannie wrote: Things must be boring at the Kiddie Care today cause Mrs. F is back on her soap box. As if things would be so great if McBush had won the election. Remember, it was George W. Bush and the Republican Party that got the United States in the mess it's in now. But you die hard Republicans never admit to it.
So now we know where Humdwig landed...she's the only person obsessed with that theory about MrsF. Since Fannie-Fannie-Fo-Fannie craves attention...that's another give away. Humdwig was such a needy little critter...
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Fannie wrote: Things must be boring at the Kiddie Care today cause Mrs. F is back on her soap box. As if things would be so great if McBush had won the election. Remember, it was George W. Bush and the Republican Party that got the United States in the mess it's in now. But you die hard Republicans never admit to it.
So do you think people should only look at the past ? Shouldn't we look at what is happening today and try to improve for the future. Maybe if people spoke out many, many years ago, we would not be in the mess we are in today. Apathy on what is happening today will only mean it will be worse tomorrow. People should voice their opinions on what is being done wrong today and hopefully our government will listen.
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