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Craig wrote: http://www.storyofstuff.com/
Now here is very funny story... But beware, its beginning to show up in schools...
Excellent! excellent!!! It is a fantastic lesson designed to make people think..and children are the logical audience..get them before they have picked up their parents habits....I'm not much of a 'stuff' collector, but I notice my neighbors have twice as much 'stuff' outside for garbage collection...I notice they never recycle...I'd love to get their email address so they could watch this film.
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Craig wrote: http://www.storyofstuff.com/
Now here is very funny story... But beware, its beginning to show up in schools...
Not funny haha, funny bizarre.....funny, creepy.....
Annie Leonard who wrote this pile of donkey dung is a member of Greenpeace, you know, the anarchists who are tearing up Pittsburgh businesses and getting arrested? The leftie loons who think protest means you have to do property damage and place police officers in harms way?? Forcing them use tear gas in order to try to trump up a law suit, ACLU has already been there checking them out?? Where's trembling lip Nancy, isn't she so so very afraid with this REAL violence?? Guess not. Isn't she afraid something "bad" will happen with all this violence being perpetrated by the fringe left kook radical extremists??? Not a word.
Those people make me puke and they are who our children are listening to in our schools. It is criminal. There are no facts in this, everything is anti America, anti Capitalism. The military is 20% of our budget, not 50%. Liars. She got all this information from an anti-war website, can you tell???
It's pure unadulterated radical left wing bilge being pumped into our children's minds.
Now that it has been exposed for what it really is, let's see if our elected officials bother to do anything about it. No wonder people are keeping their kids home. 
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Craig wrote: http://www.storyofstuff.com/
Now here is very funny story... But beware, its beginning to show up in schools...
craig, do you have any idea who funds free range studios? I saw sundance mentioned, possibly robert redford?
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designman124 wrote: Huge News-- This Is Not Going Away.
HUGE NEWS! FEDERAL JUDGE Carter sets Trial Date for Obama's Eligibility!!!
The expedited trial has been set for Jan. 26, 2010, just 4 1/2 months
from now!
Many concerned veterans and citizens attended the hearing
today in Federal Court in Santa Ana in the lawsuit against Barack
Obama to determine his eligibility to be President and Commander in
Chief.. About 150 people showed up, almost all in support of the
lawsuit to demand that Obama release his birth certificate and other
records that he has hidden from the American people.
Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama's request for dismissal
today, instead setting a hearing date for Oct. 5, 2009 since Obama's
attorneys had just filed the motion on Friday. He indicated there
was almost no chance that this case would be dismissed. Obama is
arguing this lawsuit was filed in the wrong court if you can believe
that. I guess Obama would prefer a "kangaroo court" instead of a
Federal court! Assuming Judge Carter denies Obama's motion for
dismissal, he will likely then order expedited discovery which will
force Obama to release his birth certificate in a timely manner (if
he has one).
The judge, WHO IS A FORMER U.S. MARINE, repeated several times that
this is A VERY SERIOUS CASE which must be resolved quickly so that
the troops know that their Commander in Chief is eligible to hold
that position and issue lawful orders to our military in this time of
war. He basically said OBAMA MUST PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY to the
court! He said Americans deserve to know the truth about their
President!
The two U.S. Attorneys representing Barack Obama tried everything
they could to sway the judge that this case was frivolous, but Carter
would have none of it and cut them off several times.. Obama's
attorneys left the courtroom after about the 90 minute hearing
looking defeated and nervous.
Great day in America for the U.S. Constitution!!! The truth about
Barack Obama's eligibility will be known fairly soon - Judge Carter
practically guaranteed it!
He has spent an enormous amount of money to keep it hid, so that is why people keep bringing it back up. It's his own fault for not being transparent, and when you're not, then it appears as though you are hiding something. He either enjoys the drama, or the distraction or really does have something to hide. He's the only one who can clear it up, so why doesn't he??

Why has Barack Hussein Obama spent as much as 1.4 million dollars, to block the American people from seeing his actual birth certificate... the one document that could prove that he is not a fraud and a usurper?
And that 1.4 million figure doesn't even include actions taken by the United States Department of Justice on your tax-dime.
According to WorldNetDaily.com: "President Obama may be using his political action committee funds to stomp out eligibility lawsuits brought by Americans, as he has paid more than 1.35 million to his top lawyer since the election."
"Obama for America, Obama's 2008 political campaign, merged with the Democratic National Committee in January and is now known as Organizing for America. The grassroots army that some refer to as 'Obama 2.0' is still collecting financial contributions.
"Federal Election Commission records for 'Obama for America' show that the lobby organization has paid international law firm Perkins Coie exactly 1,352,378.95 since the 2008 election."
Barack Obama still has the nerve to accuse American citizens of buying into a "conspiracy theory" even though he is spending untold amounts to fight efforts that would compel him to produce the one document that could bolster the argument that he is, in fact, eligible under Article 2, Section 1, of the United States Constitution to hold the office of President of the United States.
And as for the Mainstream Media (MSM)... why don't you see headlines that read: President of the United States Spends 1.4 Million Dollars To Obstruct Investigation Into Conspiracy Theory?
The answer is obvious. The MSM is hoping and praying that you don't notice because if you do, they'd be compelled to cover the story.
Of course the MSM would spin the story, but the MSM knows that no amount of spin can prevent Americans from asking, in increasing numbers ask, what does Barack Obama have to hide?
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http://www.storyofstuff.com/
Now here is very funny story... But beware, its beginning to show up in schools...
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Huge News-- This Is Not Going Away.
HUGE NEWS! FEDERAL JUDGE Carter sets Trial Date for Obama's Eligibility!!!
The expedited trial has been set for Jan. 26, 2010, just 4 1/2 months
from now!
Many concerned veterans and citizens attended the hearing
today in Federal Court in Santa Ana in the lawsuit against Barack
Obama to determine his eligibility to be President and Commander in
Chief.. About 150 people showed up, almost all in support of the
lawsuit to demand that Obama release his birth certificate and other
records that he has hidden from the American people.
Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama's request for dismissal
today, instead setting a hearing date for Oct. 5, 2009 since Obama's
attorneys had just filed the motion on Friday. He indicated there
was almost no chance that this case would be dismissed. Obama is
arguing this lawsuit was filed in the wrong court if you can believe
that. I guess Obama would prefer a "kangaroo court" instead of a
Federal court! Assuming Judge Carter denies Obama's motion for
dismissal, he will likely then order expedited discovery which will
force Obama to release his birth certificate in a timely manner (if
he has one).
The judge, WHO IS A FORMER U.S. MARINE, repeated several times that
this is A VERY SERIOUS CASE which must be resolved quickly so that
the troops know that their Commander in Chief is eligible to hold
that position and issue lawful orders to our military in this time of
war. He basically said OBAMA MUST PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY to the
court! He said Americans deserve to know the truth about their
President!
The two U.S. Attorneys representing Barack Obama tried everything
they could to sway the judge that this case was frivolous, but Carter
would have none of it and cut them off several times.. Obama's
attorneys left the courtroom after about the 90 minute hearing
looking defeated and nervous.
Great day in America for the U.S. Constitution!!! The truth about
Barack Obama's eligibility will be known fairly soon - Judge Carter
practically guaranteed it!
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Obama The Neville Chamberlain Of Our Time
By: Bradley A. Blakeman
Are you kidding me? President Barack Obama used a press conference to announce that Iran is building a second uranium-enrichment plant? He had a golden opportunity as the chair of the U.N. Security Council to present the case against Iran. This could have been his “moment,” a la Ambassador Adlai Stevenson, to present the irrefutable evidence that Iran, in violation of international law and treaty, has been building a secret uranium-enrichment plant.
Why did the president let slip away the perfect forum to bring the Iranians to task before the World Community? Isn’t that what the Security Council is supposed to be for for? Is the case of nuclear proliferation by rogue regimes not important enough? The president most surely knew all the facts. This should have been debated, and Iran should have been called before the Security Council to defend itself.
The president was intentionally derelict or grossly negligent in this missed opportunity. He had the president of Iran in New York. He had most, if not all, of the world leaders who make up the Security Council in New York. All members of the Security Council should have had their feet put to the fire and either condoned this illegal activity or condemned it and sought serious measures to correct it. Sadly, Obama will turn out to be the Neville Chamberlain of our time.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, like Adolf Hitler, warns the world as to his and his country's ultimate intentions. Hitler penned "Mein Kampf" in a jail cell. He stated his intentions for the world should he come to power. At the time he wrote "Mein Kampf," Hitler was a prisoner and did not possess the abilities to make good on his then wishful intent. The world chose to ignore his warnings, let him come to power and then let him implement most of his stated goals. The president of Iran is doing the very same thing.
Ahmadinejad has told the world of his ultimate intentions. He seeks the destruction of Israel and that of the United States. His country is building the instrumentalities by which he could achieve his goals, while the world sits back and watches. Sixty million people perished during World War II, with weapons far more primitive than can be produced today. If lone homicide bombers are willing to sacrifice themselves for religious fanaticism, why then is it beyond the realm of possibility, that a leader is willing to sacrifice millions for the same beliefs? We have seen it before. It has been said that, “If we do not learn from history we are condemned to repeat it”. Truer words were never spoken.
Hitler wrote the following words in "Mein Kampf" that have been parroted almost verbatim today by the president of Iran, “I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the almighty creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” How many will needlessly die before we act to stop a repeat of what the world experienced during the time of Hitler?
Iran and North Korea must be stopped, and stopped now. Either other responsible nations will join us or we must do it alone. We have no choice. We must take these rogues by their words and deeds.
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callmelou wrotePut down the cartoons and pick up a newspaper. A major terrorism threat was uncovered by the FBI under THIS president......not the older guy who panders to everyone...and not the quitter/Gov from Alaska who might have replaced him. We are safer today because of what was uncovered. I don't rely on cartoons for news. You are so right! I have alot to thank this President for!! Under his Presidency, I learned that Obama was the Attorney for Acorn, which has very deceptive procedures. Obama seems to be approaching the same thing. Why do I have to have a criminal background check, yet the President, nor the Czars, have to disclose theirs to the public? Ever heard of the Enabling Act of 1933?
Yes, I know my President thinks sending the Leaders into their corners will prevent War. Maybe if Obama shares his candy, we can all be friends with Iran? 
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Rocky21 wrote: designman124 wrote:  DesignMan, that's exactly what I fear. This new government ridicules us as if we are spoiled children, always getting our way. They verbally punish us publlicly, in the world's eye. And world leaders see this. I fear Obama thinks other countries will not harm us, due to HIS word. Deeming us weak, and more vulnerable of future attacks, I think we shouldn't back down our military stance. I think it's better to be prepared for things to go south (war), than to be unarmed.
That's why I have this gut feeling we are in deep trouble. And it's only going to get worse.
Put down the cartoons and pick up a newspaper. A major terrorism threat was uncovered by the FBI under THIS president......not the older guy who panders to everyone...and not the quitter/Gov from Alaska who might have replaced him. We are safer today because of what was uncovered.
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designman124 wrote:  DesignMan, that's exactly what I fear. This new government ridicules us as if we are spoiled children, always getting our way. They verbally punish us publlicly, in the world's eye. And world leaders see this. I fear Obama thinks other countries will not harm us, due to HIS word. Deeming us weak, and more vulnerable of future attacks, I think we shouldn't back down our military stance. I think it's better to be prepared for things to go south (war), than to be unarmed.
That's why I have this gut feeling we are in deep trouble. And it's only going to get worse.
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Ken Wright wrote: Fear is a personal trait of a coward that has no morals, no ethics, is a taker from others , is dependent - not independent-. In other words one with a jelly-like substance for a backbone.
Where did you come up with that? If you're correct, our military in combat are all cowards because each of them will admit they've been afraid in combat. The police are all cowards, according to your statement, when they face death. Terminally ill patients are cowards, as well...Really, Ken, you owe an apology to a good portion of the planet.Last edited on Sat Sep 26th, 2009 12:14 am by callmelou
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| I remember when Americans had some guts. When they were not afraid to move forward. When they did not take comfort in what former top 40 DJ's claim on the air....and when they would not accept what some intellectually challenged former Alaska beauty queen, without the guts to even finish her term in office, had dreamed about ==== Death Panels to kill our citizens...... pretty pathetic bunch of losers the fringe- right self- proclaimed 'patriots' have morphed into. Fear does that.
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“It won’t be long before “the world test Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy”. We’ll, he managed to fail the “test” not once but twice. First, he buckled in the face of Russian pressure to scrap the missile defense shield. During the 5 years it would have taken to develop the shield, Iran will easily finish development of a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the U.S. The politics of concession.
Iran repeatedly claims the development of a nuclear capability is for peaceful purposes – building power generators. Nonsense. Russia has enough gas reserves to produce 270 years of electricity. The surplus is exported to Iran who does not need nuclear electric generators at a cost many times that of its gas-fired plants. Still think Iran’s nuclear ambitions are for peaceful purposes. Sure.
Russia and Iran are joined at the hip and Russia will not go along with imposing tougher sanctions on Iran. Nor will the six party talks about Iran’s nuclear ambitions amount to anything, but give Ahmadinijad a world stage to advocate his goal of the defeat and collapse of Western democracy.
So much for the “test”. It's a ticking time bomb (no pun intended).
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http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=9972437&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/
Song 1:
Mm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that all must lend a hand
To make this country strong again
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said we must be fair today
Equal work means equal pay
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that we must take a stand
To make sure everyone gets a chance
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
Yes!
Mmm, mmm, mm
Barack Hussein Obama
Song 2:
Hello, Mr. President we honor you today!
For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say "hooray!"
Hooray, Mr. President! You're number one!
The first black American to lead this great nation!
Hooray, Mr. President we honor your great plans
To make this country's economy number one again!
Hooray Mr. President, we're really proud of you!
And we stand for all Americans under the great Red, White, and Blue!
So continue ---- Mr. President we know you'll do the trick
So here's a hearty hip-hooray ----
Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!
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| Control of the media, now censoring Humana's communications: Hitler, Stalin, Chavez and now Obama.
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cindisue_g wrote: Rocky21 wrote: callmelou wrote: Rocky21 wrote: It makes me sad, that Obama is pushing SO hard for Health reform. And yet, families are committing suicide, because they see no hope. No relief of employment, or financial assistance.
So, we have no homes, no jobs, but will have health care!! How can you afford to put gas in your car, to get to a doctor if you have no job?
And Humana, given a gag order, for forewarning their customers? Seems like he's out to impress other countries, while putting Americans on the back burner. When will it end!! Wait, Change was supposed to be here, wasn't it?
All Hail the Annoited One....
But it doesn't make you sad that people are losing their homes because they no healthcare? Doesn't it make you sad that many sick people can't hold down a job because they are sick and have no healthcare? When my government tells my insurance company to shut up, doesn't that make you think they're hiding something? Humana was warning of lowered benefits. I'm paying for this company to help WITH my health care. Shouldn't the government leave us alone? Mind their own business?
Don't you wonder why our government is not telling AARP to shut up as well. Could it be that, in the bill, they will be getting kickbacks. Makes you kind of wonder, is this the reason they are behind President Obama's health care reform. This from an administration that said they would be the most transparent and ethical administration ever....I think not! As I have said before, it is all about winning, no matter what the costs are.
The more they cut Medicare with this bill ($500 BILLION) the more money AARP stands to make on the royalties they receive from supplemental insurance companies, hundreds of millions of dollars. No wonder they are coming out and endorsing the worst of the worst plans. It's all about money to them, they could care less about what it will do to Seniors. They never have.
The GOV has absolutely no business trying to stifle any speech whether it be the Town Hall attendees, the Tea Parties or private insurance companies. Yet this incompetent administration spends a good deal of time trying to do just that to provide cover for their massive GOV take over bills. I hope Humana and the other insurance companies have the will to fight back.
Instead of the Prez "calling out" those who disagree with him, he should be "calling out" those who are breaking laws left and right in his own administration. 
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Rocky21 wrote: callmelou wrote: Rocky21 wrote: It makes me sad, that Obama is pushing SO hard for Health reform. And yet, families are committing suicide, because they see no hope. No relief of employment, or financial assistance.
So, we have no homes, no jobs, but will have health care!! How can you afford to put gas in your car, to get to a doctor if you have no job?
And Humana, given a gag order, for forewarning their customers? Seems like he's out to impress other countries, while putting Americans on the back burner. When will it end!! Wait, Change was supposed to be here, wasn't it?
All Hail the Annoited One....
But it doesn't make you sad that people are losing their homes because they no healthcare? Doesn't it make you sad that many sick people can't hold down a job because they are sick and have no healthcare? When my government tells my insurance company to shut up, doesn't that make you think they're hiding something? Humana was warning of lowered benefits. I'm paying for this company to help WITH my health care. Shouldn't the government leave us alone? Mind their own business?
Don't you wonder why our government is not telling AARP to shut up as well. Could it be that, in the bill, they will be getting kickbacks. Makes you kind of wonder, is this the reason they are behind President Obama's health care reform. This from an administration that said they would be the most transparent and ethical administration ever....I think not! As I have said before, it is all about winning, no matter what the costs are.
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callmelou wrote: Rocky21 wrote: It makes me sad, that Obama is pushing SO hard for Health reform. And yet, families are committing suicide, because they see no hope. No relief of employment, or financial assistance.
So, we have no homes, no jobs, but will have health care!! How can you afford to put gas in your car, to get to a doctor if you have no job?
And Humana, given a gag order, for forewarning their customers? Seems like he's out to impress other countries, while putting Americans on the back burner. When will it end!! Wait, Change was supposed to be here, wasn't it?
All Hail the Annoited One....
But it doesn't make you sad that people are losing their homes because they no healthcare? Doesn't it make you sad that many sick people can't hold down a job because they are sick and have no healthcare? Money is the root of all evil. Without money, there is no security. When you have people on welfare that drive BMWs, have gold jewelry, $80 shoes, and don't have to TRY to recover. Why is it that the working people who need assistance, have it TWICE AS HARD to prove why they need it? When you have the government bailing out crooked companies, while people are homeless, then yes, I have a problem with government ran programs.
When my government tells my insurance company to shut up, doesn't that make you think they're hiding something? Humana was warning of lowered benefits. I'm paying for this company to help WITH my health care. Shouldn't the government leave us alone? Mind their own business?
Where are the jobs that were promised? Do you honestly think Health care will fix Wall Street and all the money retirees or funds to retire have lost to survive on? I think Health can wait. I mean, we haven't found the cure for cancer either.
I guess I'm old fashioned still. I believe in the Preamble to the Constitution, and I believe in God.
I believe that we have a GREAT Salesman in office. He could sell anything with his promises. In fact, there's a product made after him. Anybody seen it yet? I'm fixin' to get me some for stocking stuffers. http://www.essenceofobama.com/
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Rocky21 wrote: It makes me sad, that Obama is pushing SO hard for Health reform. And yet, families are committing suicide, because they see no hope. No relief of employment, or financial assistance.
So, we have no homes, no jobs, but will have health care!! How can you afford to put gas in your car, to get to a doctor if you have no job?
And Humana, given a gag order, for forewarning their customers? Seems like he's out to impress other countries, while putting Americans on the back burner. When will it end!! Wait, Change was supposed to be here, wasn't it?
All Hail the Annoited One....
But it doesn't make you sad that people are losing their homes because they no healthcare? Doesn't it make you sad that many sick people can't hold down a job because they are sick and have no healthcare?
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It makes me sad, that Obama is pushing SO hard for Health reform. And yet, families are committing suicide, because they see no hope. No relief of employment, or financial assistance.
So, we have no homes, no jobs, but will have health care!! How can you afford to put gas in your car, to get to a doctor if you have no job?
And Humana, given a gag order, for forewarning their customers? Seems like he's out to impress other countries, while putting Americans on the back burner. When will it end!! Wait, Change was supposed to be here, wasn't it?
All Hail the Annoited One....
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goldrush wrote: Mr. Gadhafi referred to Mr. Obama in U.N. speech, saying, "We are happy and proud that a son of Africa is president of the U.S.
. . . glad we finally cleared up the identity thing.
So you believe what Gadhafi says, eh? Then you must really hate American.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24th, 2009 01:07 am |
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Mr. Gadhafi referred to Mr. Obama in U.N. speech, saying, "We are happy and proud that a son of Africa is president of the U.S.
. . . glad we finally cleared up the identity thing.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23rd, 2009 05:57 am |
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Razenkn wrote:
We have a General who the President said back in March that he has all the faith and confidence in the world that he will do the right thing to win in Afghanistan, but now for political expediency, is he saying something different?
General McChrystal is begging for more troops.....240,000 more troops. He is saying if he doesn't receive the help, we may lose this war. So, give him the troops, right? If a few short months ago our President had all the faith and confidence he claimed to have in this General, then help him win, right? No.
No, this Prez says, well let's think about it for a few weeks and see what is going on there. Didn't the General just issue a long report telling him what is going on there?? We had a $787 BILLION Dollar STIMULESS bill on his desk a week after coming into office. He took over the Auto industry in record time. He's got 1300 pages of Health Care legislation floating all over the place but he needs SEVERAL WEEKS to determine whether or not the General who he selected to make the decisions on the ground is right or not?? Who is he going to ask, the Afghan's or the Taliban??
What this Prez is doing is placing our Troops in harms way once more. Either give them what they need to WIN the war or get them the hell out of there but don't play politics with it. BHO needs to keep the war on the backburner while he fights for his massive HC government takeover plan that is losing steam. If the front page reads tomorrow he is sending in 240, 000 more troops to war, his radical left base will eat him alive and he fears they will not support his HC debacle. What a condundrum.
Fight to win or get out. How about leading Mr Prez?? 
So in other words, you're saying, 'don't do what bush did'...wow..I can't argue with that...wonder why you didn't say it when bush was pres..or acting pres, I should say.
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Posted: Wed Sep 23rd, 2009 03:32 am |
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And you though O was crazy...
http://www2.wspa.com/spa/news/local/article/mayors_memo_may_handcuff_police_officers/26918
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Posted: Tue Sep 22nd, 2009 05:50 pm |
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We have a General who the President said back in March that he has all the faith and confidence in the world that he will do the right thing to win in Afghanistan, but now for political expediency, is he saying something different?
General McChrystal is begging for more troops.....240,000 more troops. He is saying if he doesn't receive the help, we may lose this war. So, give him the troops, right? If a few short months ago our President had all the faith and confidence he claimed to have in this General, then help him win, right? No.
No, this Prez says, well let's think about it for a few weeks and see what is going on there. Didn't the General just issue a long report telling him what is going on there?? We had a $787 BILLION Dollar STIMULESS bill on his desk a week after coming into office. He took over the Auto industry in record time. He's got 1300 pages of Health Care legislation floating all over the place but he needs SEVERAL WEEKS to determine whether or not the General who he selected to make the decisions on the ground is right or not?? Who is he going to ask, the Afghan's or the Taliban??
What this Prez is doing is placing our Troops in harms way once more. Either give them what they need to WIN the war or get them the hell out of there but don't play politics with it. BHO needs to keep the war on the backburner while he fights for his massive HC government takeover plan that is losing steam. If the front page reads tomorrow he is sending in 240, 000 more troops to war, his radical left base will eat him alive and he fears they will not support his HC debacle. What a condundrum.
Fight to win or get out. How about leading Mr Prez?? 
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Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2009 10:32 pm |
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Stephanopoulos got under the Bamster’s skin Sunday on the issue of the health care non-tax tax. And, as you might expect, when off-teleprompter, the Bamster had trouble finding the right responses. So, he tried to marginalize Stephanopoulos, but it didn’t work. One thing is for sure, the Bamster will avoid, at all costs, using the "t" word even though all the health care reform proposals floating around Capitol Hill are loaded with tax provisions.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2009 04:29 pm |
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if you are asking if I voted for either person, the answer is NO, I didn't
goldrush wrote:
azsu wrote: perceptions are really strange....that is exactly how I saw george bush
Does that mean that, since they were both "cut from the same piece of cloth", sort of speak, you neither supported/support either of them? Seems to be the only conclusion you can draw for your comment.
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Posted: Mon Sep 21st, 2009 02:44 am |
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azsu wrote: perceptions are really strange....that is exactly how I saw george bush
Does that mean that, since they were both "cut from the same piece of cloth", sort of speak, you neither supported/support either of them? Seems to be the only conclusion you can draw for your comment.
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 09:19 pm |
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| Didn't feel like reading. More of a emotional knee jerk reaction.
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 09:02 pm |
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| well no, forgot to say minus the skills, but didn't feel like editing
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 08:55 pm |
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WHAT?
You think Bush had the political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton? Duh!
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 08:52 pm |
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| perceptions are really strange....that is exactly how I saw george bush
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 08:35 pm |
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What we now know about Obama:
Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton . He has
a way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing with your position, while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!
Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself, but rather to change everything, including dismantling capitalism. He can't be straightforward on his ambitions, as the public would not go along.
Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the United States, but
more as a ruler over the world. He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate & coordinate various countries and their agendas.
Obama has a huge ego and is a narcissist.
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 04:06 pm |
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| The way I see things Obama Inc. is trying to incite the general populace to violence. The town hall protests and the demonstration in DC are clear signs people have had just about enough and Obama is not even done with the cartoons. Hang on for the main feature.
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 06:25 am |
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BigSurprize wrote:
This could happen to us if we let it...whoa! 
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=9781224&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/
Ahhh, I see. This is where Nancy is going with her sadness, her heartfelt fear for people speaking out against the government, she is afraid they are going to "incite violence" against them.
What a freak of nature she is. She is trying to set up an environment for which the Government could use the excuse that talk radio and Fox News Channel are "inciting violence" against the government just like Hugo Chavez said about the 134 radio stations he shut down last week and now there is only one TV Station left that is critical of him. His supporters throw in toxic gas to try to terrorize the employees in an attempt to intimidate to stop them from being critical.
Is that where our Country is heading? Is that what Barack Hussein Obama and his crazy a$$ "diversity" czar is planning for America? His Czar said he loved the way Hugo shut down his revolution and is apparently taking notes.
America better wake up and wake fast or this is where we will be before we know what has happened to us. Remember how this admin wants to have access to shutting down the entire internet?? So did Tehran. Now BHO's buddy Hugo has figured out a way to shut down 134 radio stations, and Nancy agrees with him and is trying to warn us through her fake lip quiver that is what is what is in store for us???
Are you nervous yet?? Cause you should be if you aren't.  
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Posted: Sun Sep 20th, 2009 12:51 am |
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This could happen to us if we let it...whoa! 
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=9781224&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/
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Posted: Sat Sep 19th, 2009 09:22 pm |
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BigSurprize wrote:
What up President Obama...are you afraid to answer the tough questions?
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=9772579&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/
Apparently so. What does he think big bad Chris Wallace is going to ask him that he doesn't want to be asked?? BHO has done three times the interviews by this date in his Presidency than GWB and Clinton, but always on his networks, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and now Univision??? What is Univision? They said the WH came to them and requested the interview, sorry but that smacks of desperation.
Even poor Bertha Lewis, CEO of ACORN, is brave enough to go on and face the tough questions. Although, my guess is if her interview is anything like the one with Bill O'Reilly, she will not sing but she will dance and spin. At any rate it will be more interesting than listening to BHO opine and whine about Obamacare and how everyone is "lying" about it but him. I cannot listen to one more "victim" campaign speech.
Chris Wallace said that he views this administration as very childish and petty. He said it is the only WH that contacts him with complaints about story's or comments that have been made. It's called TRYING TO CONTROL THE MEDIA and that is why Barack Hussein Obama does not want to go on FOX because he CAN'T CONTROL them. They will just ask the questions folks want to hear. WOW, that's pretty radical stuff isn't it?? What a bunch of racist extremists...LOL 
If they are trying to "punish" FNC for some of their coverage, i.e. Hannity and Beck, then that is just acting "stupidly" because FNC has the largest viewing audience of all and the best ratings so it would seem they are just shooting themselves in the foot, it certainly isn't hurting FNC. How about the Prez's promise to reach out to ALL American's??? Apparently just those who agree with him. Petty, childish, and moronic.  
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Posted: Sat Sep 19th, 2009 07:49 pm |
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What up President Obama...are you afraid to answer the tough questions?
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=9772579&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/
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Posted: Sat Sep 19th, 2009 03:07 pm |
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From the BBC...
CIA heads urge end of abuse probe
The inquiry into alleged prisoner abuse was announced in August
Seven former heads of the CIA have written to President Obama urging him to end the inquiry into allegations of abuse of suspects held by the agency.
The US Attorney General Eric Holder last month named a prosecutor to examine whether the CIA had gone beyond approved interrogation methods.
The letter to Mr Obama said the investigation would hamper intelligence operations.
The White House did not immediately respond.
The former CIA chiefs, who served Republican and Democratic Presidents, said the cases had already been investigated during the Bush administration and lawyers had declined to prosecute in all but one.

FORMER CIA DIRECTORS
1973 James Schlesinger
1987-91 William Webster
1993-95 James Woolsey
1995-96 John Deutsch
1997-04 George Tenet
2004-05 Porter Goss
2006-09 Michael Hayden
"This approach will seriously damage the willingness of intelligence officers to take risks to protect the country," the letter read.
"In our judgment, such risk-taking is vital to success in the long and difficult fight against terrorists who continue to threaten us."
President Obama has stated that he wants to look beyond the Bush administration, which human rights groups have accused of using torture to gain information from suspects in violation of US and international law.
'Duty to examine facts'
But President Obama has said the matter was in the hands of the Attorney General Eric Holder who decided in August to reopen the cases.
The attorney general's spokesman Mark Miller said Mr Holder did not believe his investigation would affect CIA employees' commitment to their work.
"The attorney general's decision to order a preliminary review into this matter was made in line with his duty to examine the facts and to follow the law.
The current CIA director Leon Panetta is also against the inquiry
"As he has made clear, the Department of Justice will not prosecute anyone who acted in good faith and within the scope of the legal guidance given by the Office of Legal Counsel regarding the interrogation of detainees," Mr Miller said in a written statement.
The seven former CIA directors also warned that foreign governments could be hesitant to cooperate with the US if the inquiry continues.
"As a result of the zeal on the part of some to uncover every action taken in the post-9/11 period, many countries may decide that they can no longer safely share intelligence or co-operate with us on future counter-terrorist operations. They simply cannot rely on our promises of secrecy," the letter said.
The current CIA Director Leon Panetta was not a signatory to the letter, but he opposed Mr Holder's investigation.
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