| Author | Post |
|---|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 04:10 pm |
|
Well Cheney pretty much admits that the enhanced techniques worked and he authorized them even though they violated International Law. Bush waged his war on the basis of moral values, Americas high standards, the international community and personal profit. They should have arrested Cheney after the interview.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/30/cheney-investigating-cia-interrogations-a-political-move/
|
designman124
Member
| Joined: | Sat Jun 14th, 2008 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 4262 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 05:09 am |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: Glenn Beck, Oreilly and FAUX NEWS (America's Al Jazeera) have made false claims that they are not inciting violence and hate at the town hall meetings. While they call for people to go to the meeting and speak their minds and shout and scream and do what is needed to interrupt the meetings at all cost they claim they are innocent. These despicable acts of violence against their own countrymen has reduced the conservative wacko right from just a bunch of crazies to a serious home grown threat to the public. These 1 % of the population are a shameful group. These loons on FNC need to be held accountable for their unpatriotic actions.
Post something that espouses your position.
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 04:31 am |
|
| Glenn Beck, Oreilly and FAUX NEWS (America's Al Jazeera) have made false claims that they are not inciting violence and hate at the town hall meetings. While they call for people to go to the meeting and speak their minds and shout and scream and do what is needed to interrupt the meetings at all cost they claim they are innocent. These despicable acts of violence against their own countrymen has reduced the conservative wacko right from just a bunch of crazies to a serious home grown threat to the public. These 1 % of the population are a shameful group. These loons on FNC need to be held accountable for their unpatriotic actions.
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 28th, 2009 12:42 am |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: Razenkn wrote: LucifersLandlord wrote: Ok Mr President if you are going to be so gung ho on getting the investigation underway and letting the FBI do it then you better go after the big enchiladas and not a bunch of scapegoats. These people were following orders and if you want to wear the big shoes then you need to stand up and get the real offenders. We know who they are we just have to wait for the investiagtion to end.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/24/us.terror.interrogations/index.html
Hey, why not disrupt this Country even more and just send out a warrant for President Bush and VP Cheney and get it over with because that is what this is all about anyway. The psycho BDS. The radicals on the left can't let it go and besides, it makes for a nice distraction from Barack Hussein Obama's failures. I say hang em all for daring to keep our citizens safe and protecting us from more attacks that were planned. What a bunch of scum to scare those terrorists and make them talk giving up essential intel that saved thousands.
Yeah, the left is really on a high moral ground with this one aren't they?? Let the terrorists go and conduct an all out assault on American heroes. Can anybody say the word "twisted"?? The extremists in our Country is going to get us all killed if they don't stop this nonsense. Then you guys wonder why there is no respect for your party. Disgraceful. You should be ashamed luci. 
Once again thanks for the personal attack and no point. Your beliefs in your idiotic party the one that couldn't lead its way out of a paper bag is hilarious. RNC emails tell you to attack attack attack cause they have no plan and actually no real point for being. Raz your getting embarrassing. I feel sorry for you. Who attacked the American heroes, would that be your party who wouldn't fund the troops with equipment needed or the GWB administration lining their pockets with the blood of American soldiers. How about those heroes rotting in a fungus filled dilapidated hospitals. NO the idiots in your party built a top of the line prison in the Caribbean for terrorists and committed crimes that go against the very being of our country. They are disgusting. They are pathetic and a disgrace to America period. And now you have a problem with whats going on..... Respect, lol as I said republicans and respect dont even go together in the same sentence.
What personal attacks, I didn't mention you one time except you should be ashamed to go along with that crap. I think you are losing it luci. Who is disgusting, are you talking about your fellow countrymen or the terrorist's cause it sounds to me like you are right in there with this administration who are releasing terrorists to exotic islands and are going after our American heroes who has kept your butt safe for the past eight years. That is the disgrace.
You seem to be wound a little tight there luci, you should think about taking a break with your friends who are not on here any longer, then you can all gnash your teeth and get wee-weed up together....LOL.
Last edited on Fri Aug 28th, 2009 12:49 am by Razenkn
|
designman124
Member
| Joined: | Sat Jun 14th, 2008 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 4262 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 28th, 2009 12:04 am |
|
Cable TV ratings:
5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck– 3,040,000 viewers (888,000) (1,385,000)
Situation Room—688,000 viewers (141,000) (271,000)
Hardball w/ Chris Matthews—536,000 viewers (139,000) (217,000)
Fast Money—215,000 viewers (55,000) (80,000)
Prime News–267,000 viewers (97,000) (109,000
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 27th, 2009 11:52 pm |
|
Razenkn wrote: LucifersLandlord wrote: Ok Mr President if you are going to be so gung ho on getting the investigation underway and letting the FBI do it then you better go after the big enchiladas and not a bunch of scapegoats. These people were following orders and if you want to wear the big shoes then you need to stand up and get the real offenders. We know who they are we just have to wait for the investiagtion to end.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/24/us.terror.interrogations/index.html
Hey, why not disrupt this Country even more and just send out a warrant for President Bush and VP Cheney and get it over with because that is what this is all about anyway. The psycho BDS. The radicals on the left can't let it go and besides, it makes for a nice distraction from Barack Hussein Obama's failures. I say hang em all for daring to keep our citizens safe and protecting us from more attacks that were planned. What a bunch of scum to scare those terrorists and make them talk giving up essential intel that saved thousands.
Yeah, the left is really on a high moral ground with this one aren't they?? Let the terrorists go and conduct an all out assault on American heroes. Can anybody say the word "twisted"?? The extremists in our Country is going to get us all killed if they don't stop this nonsense. Then you guys wonder why there is no respect for your party. Disgraceful. You should be ashamed luci.
Once again thanks for the personal attack and no point. Your beliefs in your idiotic party the one that couldn't lead its way out of a paper bag is hilarious. RNC emails tell you to attack attack attack cause they have no plan and actually no real point for being. Raz your getting embarrassing. I feel sorry for you. Who attacked the American heroes, would that be your party who wouldn't fund the troops with equipment needed or the GWB administration lining their pockets with the blood of American soldiers. How about those heroes rotting in a fungus filled dilapidated hospitals. NO the idiots in your party built a top of the line prison in the Caribbean for terrorists and committed crimes that go against the very being of our country. They are disgusting. They are pathetic and a disgrace to America period. And now you have a problem with whats going on..... Respect, lol as I said republicans and respect dont even go together in the same sentence.
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 02:34 pm |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: Ok Mr President if you are going to be so gung ho on getting the investigation underway and letting the FBI do it then you better go after the big enchiladas and not a bunch of scapegoats. These people were following orders and if you want to wear the big shoes then you need to stand up and get the real offenders. We know who they are we just have to wait for the investiagtion to end.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/24/us.terror.interrogations/index.html
Hey, why not disrupt this Country even more and just send out a warrant for President Bush and VP Cheney and get it over with because that is what this is all about anyway. The psycho BDS. The radicals on the left can't let it go and besides, it makes for a nice distraction from Barack Hussein Obama's failures. I say hang em all for daring to keep our citizens safe and protecting us from more attacks that were planned. What a bunch of scum to scare those terrorists and make them talk giving up essential intel that saved thousands.
Yeah, the left is really on a high moral ground with this one aren't they?? Let the terrorists go and conduct an all out assault on American heroes. Can anybody say the word "twisted"?? The extremists in our Country is going to get us all killed if they don't stop this nonsense. Then you guys wonder why there is no respect for your party. Disgraceful. You should be ashamed luci.
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 01:05 pm |
|
After our little town hall fiasco this was an interesting read. Mccain talking on healthcare is like his run for president. Dead on arrival. Love the angry people well placed and organized to disrupt the meeting. Shame that republicans cant use that energy to provide some sort of helpful plans. I know helping out all the big insurance companies was on Mccains mind but for the sheep who follow him I was surprised they would fall for that crap.
Obama's efforts to reform health care have sparked "a peaceful revolt in America."
"I've seen involvement and engagement on the part of Americans that I have never seen the likes of which before," McCain said at a town hall in Phoenix, the first of eight such meetings he will hold around the state this week.
For more than an hour, the former GOP nominee alternated between cracking some well-worn jokes from his two presidential campaigns and listening to the concerns of his constituents, one of whom demanded that McCain "nuke" the health care plan entirely.
"No compromises, no comprises, no compromises," chanted one woman, a self-described former Democrat. "Senator, nuke it now!"
Though McCain firmly rejected the idea of a government-run insurance option, saying it would eventually drive private insurers out of business and lead to a full government takeover of health care, he echoed his 2008 campaign platform and said it would be irresponsible to simply "do nothing" — especially with the threat of Medicare and Social Security going broke.
"So let's go back with constructive, free-market incentives to improve the quality of health care and the affordability and availability," he said.
Later in the meeting, McCain was jeered when he insisted that Obama's views be respected despite his differing opinions on how to achieve reform.
"I am convinced the president is absolutely sincere in his beliefs," he said to groans. "Wait a minute. Wait a minute. He is sincere in his beliefs. We just happen to disagree. He is the president of the United States and let's be respectful."
But McCain made clear he is "unalterably opposed" to "reconciliation" — a Senate maneuver that would allow the White House to pass a bill with just 51 votes instead of a filibuster-proof majority.
"It would be a drastic change in the way that the United States Senate does business," he said. "And I hope that if you see something like that coming you would not allow it to happen."
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 24th, 2009 09:43 pm |
|
Ok Mr President if you are going to be so gung ho on getting the investigation underway and letting the FBI do it then you better go after the big enchiladas and not a bunch of scapegoats. These people were following orders and if you want to wear the big shoes then you need to stand up and get the real offenders. We know who they are we just have to wait for the investiagtion to end.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/24/us.terror.interrogations/index.html
|
BigSurprize
Member
|
Posted: Sun Aug 23rd, 2009 06:10 am |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: BigSurprize wrote: LucifersLandlord wrote: Wow, so now its not ok to profit from a book and tell secrets. I am curious as to why Ridge took a beating and Cheney was ok. Dont they know which end is up yet. Here is the Pubbies big chance to move forward and deal a fatal blow to the Dems as they flounder with their chance at recovery and what do they do? Bicker with each other and look for ways to profit. 
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/22/ridge-accused-of-trying-to-profit-from-terror-alert-accusations/?eref=politicalflipper
Lest you think the posts below this were to cover up your message...I figured I'd better bump it UP for ya, Luc.  
Side note to Raz: I tried both Ebay and Craigslist but no luck finding a Cone of Silence...bummer, cuz it woulda been a lot more fun than PM's, huh?
LMAO, now that's the sense of humor I love..... Glad to see it was not lost..... Thanks for the bump.... I was worried you were lost to (wont use that word) being a huge "fan" of cestmoi and following her/his's every move....
LOL Only in her dreams, Luc...one can only hope she'll get over me soon (I mean like pronto!)  Last edited on Sun Aug 23rd, 2009 06:12 am by BigSurprize
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Aug 22nd, 2009 11:05 pm |
|
BigSurprize wrote: LucifersLandlord wrote: Wow, so now its not ok to profit from a book and tell secrets. I am curious as to why Ridge took a beating and Cheney was ok. Dont they know which end is up yet. Here is the Pubbies big chance to move forward and deal a fatal blow to the Dems as they flounder with their chance at recovery and what do they do? Bicker with each other and look for ways to profit.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/22/ridge-accused-of-trying-to-profit-from-terror-alert-accusations/?eref=politicalflipper
Lest you think the posts below this were to cover up your message...I figured I'd better bump it UP for ya, Luc.
Side note to Raz: I tried both Ebay and Craigslist but no luck finding a Cone of Silence...bummer, cuz it woulda been a lot more fun than PM's, huh?
LMAO, now that's the sense of humor I love..... Glad to see it was not lost..... Thanks for the bump.... I was worried you were lost to (wont use that word) being a huge "fan" of cestmoi and following her/his's every move....
|
BigSurprize
Member
|
Posted: Sat Aug 22nd, 2009 10:23 pm |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: Wow, so now its not ok to profit from a book and tell secrets. I am curious as to why Ridge took a beating and Cheney was ok. Dont they know which end is up yet. Here is the Pubbies big chance to move forward and deal a fatal blow to the Dems as they flounder with their chance at recovery and what do they do? Bicker with each other and look for ways to profit.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/22/ridge-accused-of-trying-to-profit-from-terror-alert-accusations/?eref=politicalflipper
Lest you think the posts below this were to cover up your message...I figured I'd better bump it UP for ya, Luc.
Side note to Raz: I tried both Ebay and Craigslist but no luck finding a Cone of Silence...bummer, cuz it woulda been a lot more fun than PM's, huh?
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Aug 22nd, 2009 09:59 pm |
|
LOL...I wonder if you can buy a "cone of silence" for luci on ebay, I will chip in.
|
BigSurprize
Member
|
Posted: Sat Aug 22nd, 2009 09:15 pm |
|
Schoolmarm wrote: BigSurprize wrote: I'm sorry, Luc...I was gonna buy you a "CONE OF SILENCE" (so nobody could mess with you and your posts )...but my research says they don't really work that well. So, I guess you're on your own for awhile longer...but I'll keep look'n around (since you don't like anyone asking you questions of clarification...or worse yet...bumping your posts ). Hang tough, Luc... BTW, FYI...see both models that were under consideration.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=mcsaoffblock&p=get+smart+cone+of+silence&rs=0&fr2=rs-top
This might help even further--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcSWI6Ppks
LMAO You're right, that's the one I meant to share...so much for my copy and paste skills. Thanks!Last edited on Sat Aug 22nd, 2009 09:18 pm by BigSurprize
|
Schoolmarm
Member
| Joined: | Wed May 13th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 233 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Aug 22nd, 2009 09:12 pm |
|
BigSurprize wrote: I'm sorry, Luc...I was gonna buy you a "CONE OF SILENCE" (so nobody could mess with you and your posts )...but my research says they don't really work that well. So, I guess you're on your own for awhile longer...but I'll keep look'n around (since you don't like anyone asking you questions of clarification...or worse yet...bumping your posts ). Hang tough, Luc... BTW, FYI...see both models that were under consideration.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=mcsaoffblock&p=get+smart+cone+of+silence&rs=0&fr2=rs-top
This might help even further--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcSWI6Ppks
Last edited on Sat Aug 22nd, 2009 09:12 pm by Schoolmarm
|
BigSurprize
Member
|
Posted: Sat Aug 22nd, 2009 08:38 pm |
|
I'm sorry, Luc...I was gonna buy you a "CONE OF SILENCE" (so nobody could mess with you and your posts )...but my research says they don't really work that well. So, I guess you're on your own for awhile longer...but I'll keep look'n around (since you don't like anyone asking you questions of clarification...or worse yet...bumping your posts ). Hang tough, Luc... BTW, FYI...see both models that were under consideration.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=mcsaoffblock&p=get+smart+cone+of+silence&rs=0&fr2=rs-top
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sat Aug 22nd, 2009 08:14 pm |
|
Wow, so now its not ok to profit from a book and tell secrets. I am curious as to why Ridge took a beating and Cheney was ok. Dont they know which end is up yet. Here is the Pubbies big chance to move forward and deal a fatal blow to the Dems as they flounder with their chance at recovery and what do they do? Bicker with each other and look for ways to profit.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/22/ridge-accused-of-trying-to-profit-from-terror-alert-accusations/?eref=politicalflipper
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 21st, 2009 05:28 pm |
|
Another book from the former Bush administration. Ridge and being asked to raise the terror level during the 2004 elections to try and swing the vote towards GW's favor just to be safe. LOL like we didnt know this stuff was going on. We know they were crooked and still today are crooked liars. I am sure now Ridge will be blasted and demonized as a traitor.
Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system
[url=javascript:openWindow('http://tools.boston.com/pass-it-on?story_url=http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/08/ridge_accuses_b.html','mailit','scrollbars,resizable,width=770,height=450');]Email[/url]|Link|Comments (82) Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor August 20, 2009 07:21 PM
In his new book, the first Homeland Security chief, Tom Ridge, accuses top aides to President George W. Bush of pressing him to raise the terror alert level to influence the 2004 presidential election.
Ridge, a former Republican governor of Pennsylvania, says that he refused the entreaty just before the election from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Attorney General John Ashcroft, according to a summary of the book from publisher Thomas Dunne Books.
Ridge writes that there was a "vigorous, some might say dramatic, discussion" about raising the threat level. He says his aides told the White House that doing so would politicize national security.
"I believe our strong interventions had pulled the 'go-up' advocates back from the brink," Ridge writes. "But I consider the episode to be not only a dramatic moment in Washington's recent history, but another illustration of the intersection of politics, fear, credibility and security."
"After that episode, I knew I had to follow through with my plans to leave the federal government for the private sector," Ridge, who resigned soon after the election where Bush defeated Democrat John F. Kerry, writes in "The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege ... And How We Can Be Safe Again."
Ridge's book will only fuel Bush critics, who have long said that his White House used terror threats to distract the public from the unpopular Iraq war.
The Bush team has long denied that was the case.
UPDATE: Bush's former homeland security adviser, Frances Townsend, told the Associated Press today that politics never played a role in determining alert levels. She noted that in the weeks before the electio two videotapes, including one from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, were released that she said contained "very graphic" and "threatening" messages.
"Never were politics ever discussed in this context in my presence," she said.
Asked if there was any reason for Ridge to have felt pressured, Townsend told the AP: "He was certainly not pressured. And, by the way, he didn't object when it was raised and he certainly didn't object when it wasn't raised."
Ridge's book chronicles his entire tenure as homeland security chief.
"In this probing and surefooted memoir, Ridge takes us through the challenges he and his new department faced, including Anthrax scares and reports (both real and false alarms) of new Al-Qaeda operations sprouting up in the United States," says the publisher's summary of the book, scheduled to be out on Sept. 1.
"Ridge writes with refreshing candor on both the successes and missteps of the DHS. He details the obstacles faced in his new post -- often within the administration itself -- as well as the failures of Congress to provide for critical homeland security needs, and the irresponsible use of terrorism by both parties to curry favors with voters," the summary continues.
It says that Ridge also reveals in the book how the department was "pressured to connect homeland security to the international “war on terror;” and how he had "pushed for a plan (defeated because of turf wars) to integrate DHS and FEMA disaster management in New Orleans and other areas before Hurricane Katrina."
Asked about the allegation about the election, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs noted today that current Homeland Security Janet Napolitano launched a study whether to scrap the color-coded system, which critics say is ineffective and confusing.
"Decisions regarding the terror threat should be made based on the rise and fall of that threat, not based on anything else," Gibbs told reporters.
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 20th, 2009 11:19 pm |
|
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Aug 16th, 2009 08:01 pm |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: The Death Panel Hoax started by notso righties and inflamed by the every lying Glen Beck are starting to backfire in their faces. Its a shame that since it would be a great option for older folks with no family to follow up on their quality of life instead of being held hostage by greedy hospitals and doctors just wanting to bleed insurance dry.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/14/blayney.death.discussions/index.html
Here's a notion, how about paying for second opinions after the doctor gives the patient their options which he would do under any normal health plan without bringing goverment death panels? That is all they need to do, then allow the patient, their family and the both medical opinions be the deciding factor? What's the real hoax about this is the government wanting to force people into MANDATORY death counseling every five years even when people aren't dying. That's the creepy part. That is where "death panel" came to light because that is exactly what it is, I would say a bunch of vultures waiting to see if you are ready to kick the bucket. Not in America.
If your physcian says "surgery will not prolong your life or improve quality" we will send you home with hospice and pain pills. If the patient and family doesn't have faith in their physician, then let's protect them by allowing a second opinion. That's where the money needs to be spent. If they have two physicians giving them the same life and death advice, then so be it. But what if the first doctor is wrong, they aren't GODS and they aren't always right. But to try to bring in some kind of a government cost control panel to make these decisions for us based on some chart is beyond the pale ludicrous.
The elderly already have all the options they need on this, how have they been doing it all along without government interference? Shameful beaurocrats are trying to wedge themselves into a very personal matter and trying to determine the outcome for the elderly. Had they left the counseling option the way it is, nobody would be objecting, so who is the liar here? If there was nothing wrong with the way it was being presented, then why did they jettison it out? Who's being dishonest luci?
Last edited on Sun Aug 16th, 2009 08:04 pm by Razenkn
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Sun Aug 16th, 2009 07:05 pm |
|
The Death Panel Hoax started by notso righties and inflamed by the every lying Glen Beck are starting to backfire in their faces. Its a shame that since it would be a great option for older folks with no family to follow up on their quality of life instead of being held hostage by greedy hospitals and doctors just wanting to bleed insurance dry.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/14/blayney.death.discussions/index.html
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 14th, 2009 02:33 pm |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: Razenkn wrote: luci wrote..
LOL, once again nice RNC cover there Raz, sorry that you feel that you actually know me and can tell what I am thinking or how I feel. HAHA, your just sorry to see your heroes fighting amongst themselves and once again proving the fact that your party is incapable of leading our nation.
See, you are wrong as usual luci. Some of us have a brain of our own out here and pay attention to what both sides have to say on each issue and make up our own mind. I know which outlets tell the truth and which outlets do not because I watch and listen to both. Bush and Cheney aren't fighting among themselves. Why would you say that, did you have a conversation with them? They are never in a million years going to let a simpleton know what they thought, what they would think, what they are thinking now, so this is just a lot of PELOSI, as usual. Stay off that huff and puff because she will lead you astray every time and make you look like an even bigger fool.
What's up with the maniacal laughter, we all know that's fake luci/mama....hahahaha, LOL,
LOL, read this post and then you wonder why there is such laughter. Truth hahaha, facts HAHAhaha Bush/Cheney and you HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA....
I rest my case.
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 14th, 2009 01:16 pm |
|
Razenkn wrote: luci wrote..
LOL, once again nice RNC cover there Raz, sorry that you feel that you actually know me and can tell what I am thinking or how I feel. HAHA, your just sorry to see your heroes fighting amongst themselves and once again proving the fact that your party is incapable of leading our nation.
See, you are wrong as usual luci. Some of us have a brain of our own out here and pay attention to what both sides have to say on each issue and make up our own mind. I know which outlets tell the truth and which outlets do not because I watch and listen to both. Bush and Cheney aren't fighting among themselves. Why would you say that, did you have a conversation with them? They are never in a million years going to let a simpleton know what they thought, what they would think, what they are thinking now, so this is just a lot of PELOSI, as usual. Stay off that huff and puff because she will lead you astray every time and make you look like an even bigger fool.
What's up with the maniacal laughter, we all know that's fake luci/mama....hahahaha, LOL,
LOL, read this post and then you wonder why there is such laughter. Truth hahaha, facts HAHAhaha Bush/Cheney and you HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA....
|
cestmoi
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 14th, 2009 06:50 am |
|
Schoolmarm wrote: cestmoi wrote: LucifersLandlord wrote: Well Cheney is making Bush look like a total idiot or he was actually pretty smart. So if Cheney was pulling Bush's strings then who's idea was it for their private war. Bush's revenge for Daddy or Cheney and a windfall for Haliburton? Guess we will never know the real truth just more lies from a really corrupt administration.
LL--I must disagree with you on this. Bush was, is and will always be a total idiot. Sadly, as dumb as he is, he mades Palin look average. The Repugnicans have an IQ test. If one fails it, they are qualified to run for President.
Hate, Hate, Hate
is this like, na, na nana naw? you could run for pres as a republican Last edited on Fri Aug 14th, 2009 06:51 am by
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 14th, 2009 05:15 am |
|
luci wrote..
LOL, once again nice RNC cover there Raz, sorry that you feel that you actually know me and can tell what I am thinking or how I feel. HAHA, your just sorry to see your heroes fighting amongst themselves and once again proving the fact that your party is incapable of leading our nation.
See, you are wrong as usual luci. Some of us have a brain of our own out here and pay attention to what both sides have to say on each issue and make up our own mind. I know which outlets tell the truth and which outlets do not because I watch and listen to both. Bush and Cheney aren't fighting among themselves. Why would you say that, did you have a conversation with them? They are never in a million years going to let a simpleton know what they thought, what they would think, what they are thinking now, so this is just a lot of PELOSI, as usual. Stay off that huff and puff because she will lead you astray every time and make you look like an even bigger fool.
What's up with the maniacal laughter, we all know that's fake luci/mama....hahahaha, LOL,
|
Schoolmarm
Member
| Joined: | Wed May 13th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 233 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 14th, 2009 04:31 am |
|
cestmoi wrote: LucifersLandlord wrote: Well Cheney is making Bush look like a total idiot or he was actually pretty smart. So if Cheney was pulling Bush's strings then who's idea was it for their private war. Bush's revenge for Daddy or Cheney and a windfall for Haliburton? Guess we will never know the real truth just more lies from a really corrupt administration.
LL--I must disagree with you on this. Bush was, is and will always be a total idiot. Sadly, as dumb as he is, he mades Palin look average. The Repugnicans have an IQ test. If one fails it, they are qualified to run for President.
Hate, Hate, Hate
|
cestmoi
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Fri Aug 14th, 2009 04:14 am |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: Well Cheney is making Bush look like a total idiot or he was actually pretty smart. So if Cheney was pulling Bush's strings then who's idea was it for their private war. Bush's revenge for Daddy or Cheney and a windfall for Haliburton? Guess we will never know the real truth just more lies from a really corrupt administration.
LL--I must disagree with you on this. Bush was, is and will always be a total idiot. Sadly, as dumb as he is, he mades Palin look average. The Repugnicans have an IQ test. If one fails it, they are qualified to run for President.
|
designman124
Member
| Joined: | Sat Jun 14th, 2008 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 4262 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 13th, 2009 11:49 pm |
|
Clinton Aide Accused of Smuggling
Frmer Clinton aide Betsey Wright accused of smuggling knife and needles into prison
BY Leo Standora
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, August 13th 2009, 4:00 AM
Duricka/AP
Betsey Wright, Bill Clinton's former chief of staff in Arkansas, is accused of trying to smuggle a knife into jail
A former top aide to Bill Clinton when he was Arkansas governor was charged Wednesday with trying to smuggle a knife and 48 tattoo needles stashed in a bag of Doritos onto the state's death row.
Betsy Wright, 66, a vocal death penalty opponent, was detained May 22, prison officials said.
It was unclear why she allegedly carried the items into the prison.
Wright denied the charges, but admitted bringing in the Doritos, which she claimed she found in the bottom of a prison vending machine.
Wright served as Clinton's chief of staff and during his 1992 presidential campaign.
She's expected to surrender to authorities in the coming days to face 51 charges filed against her.
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 13th, 2009 11:34 pm |
|
Razenkn wrote: What a silly article luci, it's just speculation, no back up, no proof, no substance. Just someone wanting to sell a book like others before him. Boring.
BUt what I found amusing was the fact that the libs who went wild over having a "cowboy" mentality in the WH to be now using somebody's notion as fact that he "went soft" in his second term. You people crack me up. Which President Bush do you like? The "Cowboy" or the "Softie" LOL. OH, that's right, you wouldn't have cared if he were all the above because you love to HATE him no matter what he did. You are so embroiled in the past, time to come up for air luci. Pssst....GWB is enjoying life now as a retired man.
We have some serious, serious life changing issues on the table right now that we may never be able to come back from. I don't think there are many out there too interested in what some author's opinion is of the Bush/Cheney relationship because I will tell you this much....those two ain't talkin'.
LOL, once again nice RNC cover there Raz, sorry that you feel that you actually know me and can tell what I am thinking or how I feel. HAHA, your just sorry to see your heroes fighting amongst themselves and once again proving the fact that your party is incapable of leading our nation.
|
designman124
Member
| Joined: | Sat Jun 14th, 2008 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 4262 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 13th, 2009 11:31 pm |
|
Last edited on Thu Aug 13th, 2009 11:33 pm by designman124
|
designman124
Member
| Joined: | Sat Jun 14th, 2008 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 4262 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 13th, 2009 11:21 pm |
|
Edwards to admit paternity
Sources: Edwards to admit paternity of ex-mistress' childPosted: Today at 5:05 p.m.
Updated: Today at 5:12 p.m.
Sources have told WRAL News that they expect former U.S. Sen. John Edwards to admit that he is the father of his former mistress' 18-month-old daughter.
Edwards, a two-time Democratic presidential candidate, confessed last August to having an affair with Rielle Hunter, who served as a videographer on Edwards' 2008 campaign. He has denied fathering her daughter, saying his relationship with Hunter ended before the child was conceived.
The name of the girl's father isn't disclosed on her birth certificate.
Andrew Young, a long-time Edwards aide, initially claimed to be the father of Hunter's child, but he is reportedly writing a book in which he will claim Edwards is the father.
A federal grand jury is investigating whether Edwards' campaign funds were illegally paid to Hunter to keep quiet about the affair.
Hunter spent nine hours last Thursday at the federal courthouse in Raleigh, where the grand jury was meeting. She brought her daughter, Frances, with her.
Young was at the federal courthouse in July when the grand jury was meeting.
Sources said Edwards' public admission could come before the end of the criminal investigation.
|
deuce
Member
| Joined: | Wed Apr 15th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 337 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 13th, 2009 09:58 pm |
|
| LET IT GO. YOU'LL SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT, LUCI. Last edited on Thu Aug 13th, 2009 09:59 pm by deuce
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 13th, 2009 09:55 pm |
|
What a silly article luci, it's just speculation, no back up, no proof, no substance. Just someone wanting to sell a book like others before him. Boring.
BUt what I found amusing was the fact that the libs who went wild over having a "cowboy" mentality in the WH to be now using somebody's notion as fact that he "went soft" in his second term. You people crack me up. Which President Bush do you like? The "Cowboy" or the "Softie" LOL. OH, that's right, you wouldn't have cared if he were all the above because you love to HATE him no matter what he did. You are so embroiled in the past, time to come up for air luci. Pssst....GWB is enjoying life now as a retired man.
We have some serious, serious life changing issues on the table right now that we may never be able to come back from. I don't think there are many out there too interested in what some author's opinion is of the Bush/Cheney relationship because I will tell you this much....those two ain't talkin'.
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Thu Aug 13th, 2009 08:05 pm |
|
Well Cheney is making Bush look like a total idiot or he was actually pretty smart. So if Cheney was pulling Bush's strings then who's idea was it for their private war. Bush's revenge for Daddy or Cheney and a windfall for Haliburton? Guess we will never know the real truth just more lies from a really corrupt administration.
Report: Cheney Says Bush Went Soft
WASHINGTON (Aug. 13) - Former Vice President Dick Cheney believes his old boss, President George W. Bush, gradually turned away from his advice during their second term in the White House, showing a surprising independence as he started taking more flexible positions on a range of issues, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.Skip over this content
Gerald Herbert, AP
Ever since George W. Bush and Dick Cheney left the White House, a more complex portrait of their relationship has emerged. While some have portrayed the former vice president as a puppet master, reports now suggest Cheney was marginalized by his ex-boss during their second term.
According to the author of the Post piece, Barton Gellman, who earlier wrote a book on Cheney called "Angler," the former vice president believes Bush made concessions to public sentiment, something Cheney views as moral weakness. After years of praising Bush as a man of resolve, Cheney now intimates that the former president turned out to be more like an ordinary politician in the end, Gellman says.
"In the second term, he felt Bush was moving away from him," Gellman quoted a participant in the recent gathering, describing Cheney's reply. "He said Bush was shackled by the public reaction and the criticism he took. Bush was more malleable to that. The implication was that Bush had gone soft on him, or rather Bush had hardened against Cheney's advice. He'd showed an independence that Cheney didn't see coming."
The Post quoted John P. Hannah, Cheney's second-term national security adviser, as saying Cheney remains driven, now as before, by the possibility of terrorists obtaining nuclear weapons from a nation hostile to the U.S.
What is new, Hannah said, is Cheney's readiness to acknowledge "doubts about the main channels of American policy during the last few years," a period encompassing most of Bush's second term.
Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. Active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 04:04 pm |
|
clarz007 wrote: People need to just calm down and get the facts. There is so much misinformation out there. I am getting emails about seniors getting euthanized? What in the world?? Once again we need to read the talking points of the bill--get just the facts and then make an informed decision about whether we support the changes. I really do not understand why people are so angry. The bill is a proposal that will be scrutinized by informed legislators and tweaked. Change in health care WILL happen one way or another. We cannot sustain the skyrocketing costs. Something must change. That is clear. I would think everyone could agree on that.
With all due respect clara, you don't have a very good grasp of how this all works and what they are trying to pull over the eyes of Americans. Had this monstrosity not been objected to by "the people" we would have a 1100 page mess voted on and passed by the House, Nancy wanted to shove it down our throats without anyone looking at it and discussing it, especially not us. Hell, even Conyers said why bother because they can't understand it anyway without two lawyers interpreting it for them, so they vote in the blind.
Don't you understand what they are voting on will change our health care system dramatically setting us on a course of something that is a massive government controlled system that will guarantee failure? Why would any sane and clear thinking person want that? It's not a "medicare" for all, it's a "medicaid" for all and it SUXXS.
You sound completely shocked at the very word "euthanasia" as though that would be impossible. What do you call it when BHO wants to hand select a panel of non-medical radical left wing politicos to decide your fate over a certain age or if you are handicapped or mentally disabled? You can't pretty that up, it is what it is. They will deem you non-contributory and a drain on the system after a certain age and it's curtains for you baby, see ya wouldn't want to be ya and you will have no recourse. In the bill it doesn't allow for private pay and it doesn't allow for you to opt out of GOV run healthcare. (bye bye freedom)
These bills are just the frosting on the cake, but the dirty work starts after they are passed. Everything in them is loosely written, generalized, and vague so when the bills are passed they are turned over to the real health care killers, the HHS "agencies" for details. We will never get to see those details but according to Kathleen Sebelius, we don't need to trouble our little brains with them, she and her fellow radicals will take care of them for us and our freedom of choice will be terminated.
Is that what you folks consider to be "democracy"? Nationalizing the USA is an affront to our Constitution. Name one Country where it has worked. They are all looking at us as though we have lost our minds. I think maybe we have.
Last edited on Tue Aug 11th, 2009 04:04 pm by Razenkn
|
cindisue_g
Member
| Joined: | Wed Feb 22nd, 2006 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 2527 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 03:04 pm |
|
clarz007 wrote: People need to just calm down and get the facts. There is so much misinformation out there. I am getting emails about seniors getting euthanized? What in the world?? Once again we need to read the talking points of the bill--get just the facts and then make an informed decision about whether we support the changes. I really do not understand why people are so angry. The bill is a proposal that will be scrutinized by informed legislators and tweaked. Change in health care WILL happen one way or another. We cannot sustain the skyrocketing costs. Something must change. That is clear. I would think everyone could agree on that.
Here is why people are getting upset about euthanasia: At issue is Section 1233 of HR 3200, the government-run health care plan that the House will consider when it returns from its August recess. The measure would pay physicians to give Medicare patients end-of-life counseling every five years or sooner if the patient has a terminal diagnosis.
I think what people are upset about, is that there is no real plan as to how this will work or a real plan as to how it will be paid for. There is a concept that will be voted on and then a "plan" will be put together. The plan will be put together by people that refuse to be on the same plan that they will require the citizens of the United States to be on (because as one said he would not put his dog on this plan). The plan will be put together by the same people (both Democrats and Republicans) that couldn't control the stimulus package, TARP funds, cash for clunkers, our government spending, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, have special interest, etc. And what people have to realize is that, once it is approved, it will be darn hard to get it taken off the books.
No, we can not sustain skyrocketing costs, so where is tort reform? Where is the plan to stop paying for illegal immigrants (when I travel to other countries, they don't give me free care), where is the plan to keep costs down (why does it cost $25 for an aspirin when someone is in the hospital), where is the plan to get the cost of medicine costs under control (why does someone pay $100 for something that costs $1).
I continue to ask, why the rush - why not sit down and put together a plan for those that don't have medical care and those that will not at possibly one time in their life.
People have to call or write their representatives and tell them to put together something that makes sense, not to vote on something that will be put together at a later date.
Last edited on Tue Aug 11th, 2009 04:58 pm by cindisue_g
|
clarz007
Member
| Joined: | Fri Mar 6th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 224 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 01:50 pm |
|
| People need to just calm down and get the facts. There is so much misinformation out there. I am getting emails about seniors getting euthanized? What in the world?? Once again we need to read the talking points of the bill--get just the facts and then make an informed decision about whether we support the changes. I really do not understand why people are so angry. The bill is a proposal that will be scrutinized by informed legislators and tweaked. Change in health care WILL happen one way or another. We cannot sustain the skyrocketing costs. Something must change. That is clear. I would think everyone could agree on that.
|
MrsF
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 12:08 pm |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: MrsF wrote: LucifersLandlord wrote: Here is what the TEA Party has come to. Bully tactics and violence against there own fellow Americans. What a disgrace. Open forum and debate are what we should do, but as we know republicans have no plan to offer so they would rather create a hostile situation and hurt people. Nice......
Cafferty: Will loud & violent town hall protests kill health care reform?
Posted: August 7th, 2009 03:00 PM ET
From CNN's Jack Cafferty
Join the conversation on Jack's blog.
The protests at town hall meetings on health care reform continue to get louder and more violent.
One event in Tampa, Florida, got particularly ugly… with hecklers and people pushing and shoving. As the Democratic congresswoman addressed the crowd — people chanted "read the bill" and "tyranny."
Hundreds couldn’t even get into the meeting — as demonstrators on both side of the debate shouted at one other.
In St. Louis — there are reports that six people were arrested after health care protests broke out at what was supposed to be a forum on aging held by a Democratic congressman.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was even at the center of about 200 protesters in Denver where she was visiting a homeless clinic. The crowd was loud, but orderly — about half supported the reform and half opposed it.
Pelosi and other Democrats insist these protests at meetings sponsored by Democrats won’t derail health care reform once Congress gets back to work next month.
Just wondering where the "violence" is? Is "pushing and shoving" now considered violence? I never thought of it as that. So, a little pushing and shoving and loud voices are what people think are the reasons for the health care plan's failure? Not because people think it's a bad idea and they don't like it. Nope, it's the pushing and shoving and loud shouting that's going to do it. What a crock!
Welcome back MrsF ..... glad you like violence to get your point across. Sounds very republican though so I was surprised. Most republicans have no point or idea how to fix the problem so their objective is to muddy the water and start a war. Well violence against their own countrymen seems to be the new fad.... Disgraceful...
I don't "like" violence, but people are truly outraged about this and are frustrated by people in charge not listening. People talk, scream and yell and still are being ignored. Remember, if it weren't for the American Revolution and Americans fighting against their own countrymen (Patriots beat the Torries), we'd still be paying a Royalty Tax to Britain as well. I'm not opposed to revolutions.
I don't know if a "war" has been started over this or not, but people are truly upset and have a right to be. The political left has taken the ball and run with it. People aren't fighting, they are FIGHTING BACK. There's a huge difference. Republicans didn't START this "war" as you call it.
It's Obama and his administration that are trying to shove this horrible plan at us. Just wait. If it does go through, it will be the end of this country as we know it. People see Obama for the fraud that he is and he has only just begun. He is not the same man who was campaigning to unite people and change this country for the better. He has a seriously scary agenda that contradicts his entire campaign and people see through it and want it stopped. Actually, those of us who DIDN'T vote for him were able to see through this and that's why we voted the way we did. It's not about party or race, it's about principles. Did you honestly think he would get into office and everyone would be just fine with all of this? These are some drastic things he has already done. What he wants to do in the future is even worse.
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 11:49 am |
|
Last edited on Tue Aug 11th, 2009 12:08 pm by LucifersLandlord
|
cestmoi
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 06:16 am |
|
Razenkn wrote:
Obama calls out his private army thugs...SEIU. Beat up a gentleman who was handing out flags and pins. Calling him racial slurs.
The WH sent them a memo to start attending the health care townhalls and if they hit the WH said punch back twice as hard. I guess they took it literally only the guy didn't hit anyone, he very politely asked them if they would like a flag.
The WH is inciting violence and trying to stifel free speech through intimidation, look at the size of those thugs. It doesn't get anymore disgraceful than that and dangerous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe5J22JPNnU
Bon Jour!! Ahhh...but poor Mr. Gadney was lucky enough to have his lawyer present at this alledged beating, no? ...poor Mr. Gadney said he was punched and repeatedly kicked while on the ground, yet he was able to immediately get off the ground despite his 'serious injuries', no? Poor Mr. Gadney is lucky his 'injuries' are not seemingly severe because poor Mr. Gadney has no health insurance since he lost his job. Au revoir!
|
cestmoi
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 06:12 am |
|
BigSurprize wrote: MrsF wrote: I didn't say I think pushing or shoving is acceptable or even okay. I just think the word "violence" is a bit harsh. I mean, I doubt the TV industry would label a TV show as violent if someone were to push someone else in the episode. I would think it would take a stronger act of violence to consider it as such.
Don't you love how some people make you feel all warm and fuzzy...truly appreciated? Let me give it a try...k?
Welcome back MrsF!
So you're into acts of violence. BAM!
What a pub you've turned out to be. SLAP!
So what's your point? POW!
Violence is the hot ticket and you're such a trend setter! CRASH!
We sure missed you...did you miss us? BURN (you pub) BURN!
How'd that work for ya, MrsF...did it make you wanna come back for more? I wouldn't wanna be outdone by some person who shall remain nameless...so just remember who cares the most.
Bon Jour!! Aweee..you ladies are so sensitive with other posters, too...after all, MF already said she's not fazed by pushing and shoving, no? Au revoir!
|
cestmoi
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 06:09 am |
|
MrsF wrote: I didn't say I think pushing or shoving is acceptable or even okay. I just think the word "violence" is a bit harsh. I mean, I doubt the TV industry would label a TV show as violent if someone were to push someone else in the episode. I would think it would take a stronger act of violence to consider it as such.
Bon Jour!!!! So, you think the TV rating system should replace laws in determining un acceptable civil behavior. MF, you are a funny lady. You are a fan of Charles Manson, no? Au revoir!
|
BigSurprize
Member
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 05:44 am |
|
MrsF wrote: I didn't say I think pushing or shoving is acceptable or even okay. I just think the word "violence" is a bit harsh. I mean, I doubt the TV industry would label a TV show as violent if someone were to push someone else in the episode. I would think it would take a stronger act of violence to consider it as such.
Don't you love how some people make you feel all warm and fuzzy...truly appreciated? Let me give it a try...k?
Welcome back MrsF!
So you're into acts of violence. BAM!
What a pub you've turned out to be. SLAP!
So what's your point? POW!
Violence is the hot ticket and you're such a trend setter! CRASH!
We sure missed you...did you miss us? BURN (you pub) BURN!
How'd that work for ya, MrsF...did it make you wanna come back for more? I wouldn't wanna be outdone by some person who shall remain nameless...so just remember who cares the most.
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 05:09 am |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: Queen Putz herself has said something smart. While it is on facebook, its probably written by someone else. If it is her then you know its bad when she calls for restraint. I guess the violence against her own countrymen finally was enough even for her to tilt her head and go" Oh my gosh thats like totally wrong"...... Next she will tell us to cool off and go shoot some animals to make us feel better.....
Palin urges restraint at town hall meetings
Palin on Sunday called on critics of the health care plan to turn down the volume.
(CNN) — Despite Sarah Palin's suggestion that President Obama's health care plan will institute "death panels" to evaluate elderly and disabled citizens — a claim that was quickly debunked — her latest message to the public is a bit more conciliatory.
Posting once again on her Facebook page — the former Alaska governor's recent soapbox of choice — Palin on Sunday called on critics of the health care plan to turn down the volume.
"There are many disturbing details in the current bill that Washington is trying to rush through Congress, but we must stick to a discussion of the issues and not get sidetracked by tactics that can be accused of leading to intimidation or harassment," Palin wrote.
Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, was presumably referring to reform critics who have shouted down members of Congress at several town halls around the country over the last week.
House Minority Leader John Boehner and a handful of other GOP leaders have defended the angry reaction at some of the forums.
"Such tactics diminish our nation's civil discourse which we need now more than ever because the fine print in this outrageous health care proposal must be understood clearly and not get lost in conscientious voters' passion to want to make elected officials hear what we are saying," Palin wrote. "Let's not give the proponents of nationalized health care any reason to criticize us."
You shouldn't call Fancy Nancy "Queen Putz" she deserves some respect you know" Shame on you luci, thought you and the Jet Queen were on the same page?"
|
MrsF
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 05:01 am |
|
I didn't say I think pushing or shoving is acceptable or even okay. I just think the word "violence" is a bit harsh. I mean, I doubt the TV industry would label a TV show as violent if someone were to push someone else in the episode. I would think it would take a stronger act of violence to consider it as such.
|
BigSurprize
Member
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 12:19 am |
|
cestmoi wrote: BigSurprize wrote: Razenkn wrote: designman124 wrote: Latest Botox Commercial:
NANCY AND STENY HOYER say that PROTESTERS ARE UN-AMERICAN....really?? SAYS WHO?
Trying to stifle free speech IS UN-AMERICAN .....this nasty piece of work needs to go.
I'm think'n Hillary Clinton would disagree with Nancy Pelosi...especially when the shoes on the other foot. Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
Bon Jour!!! I am certain you are able to this because strangers stop you on the street and compliment you on your loveliness, oui?
Your post makes no sense...honest...are you okay?
|
cestmoi
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 12:07 am |
|
LucifersLandlord wrote: Queen Putz herself has said something smart. While it is on facebook, its probably written by someone else. If it is her then you know its bad when she calls for restraint. I guess the violence against her own countrymen finally was enough even for her to tilt her head and go" Oh my gosh thats like totally wrong"...... Next she will tell us to cool off and go shoot some animals to make us feel better.....
Palin urges restraint at town hall meetings
Palin on Sunday called on critics of the health care plan to turn down the volume.
(CNN) — Despite Sarah Palin's suggestion that President Obama's health care plan will institute "death panels" to evaluate elderly and disabled citizens — a claim that was quickly debunked — her latest message to the public is a bit more conciliatory.
Posting once again on her Facebook page — the former Alaska governor's recent soapbox of choice — Palin on Sunday called on critics of the health care plan to turn down the volume.
"There are many disturbing details in the current bill that Washington is trying to rush through Congress, but we must stick to a discussion of the issues and not get sidetracked by tactics that can be accused of leading to intimidation or harassment," Palin wrote.
Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, was presumably referring to reform critics who have shouted down members of Congress at several town halls around the country over the last week.
House Minority Leader John Boehner and a handful of other GOP leaders have defended the angry reaction at some of the forums.
"Such tactics diminish our nation's civil discourse which we need now more than ever because the fine print in this outrageous health care proposal must be understood clearly and not get lost in conscientious voters' passion to want to make elected officials hear what we are saying," Palin wrote. "Let's not give the proponents of nationalized health care any reason to criticize us."
She was the same Palin who tolerated someone calling for the death of the President at opne of her speeches ....she is the queen of incitement. Ought have a size 10 sock stuffed into her bouche, be tossed into a room, and left there.
|
LucifersLandlord
Member
| Joined: | Thu Feb 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Arizona USA |
| Posts: | 2401 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 12:02 am |
|
Queen Putz herself has said something smart. While it is on facebook, its probably written by someone else. If it is her then you know its bad when she calls for restraint. I guess the violence against her own countrymen finally was enough even for her to tilt her head and go" Oh my gosh thats like totally wrong"...... Next she will tell us to cool off and go shoot some animals to make us feel better.....
Palin urges restraint at town hall meetings
Palin on Sunday called on critics of the health care plan to turn down the volume.
(CNN) — Despite Sarah Palin's suggestion that President Obama's health care plan will institute "death panels" to evaluate elderly and disabled citizens — a claim that was quickly debunked — her latest message to the public is a bit more conciliatory.
Posting once again on her Facebook page — the former Alaska governor's recent soapbox of choice — Palin on Sunday called on critics of the health care plan to turn down the volume.
"There are many disturbing details in the current bill that Washington is trying to rush through Congress, but we must stick to a discussion of the issues and not get sidetracked by tactics that can be accused of leading to intimidation or harassment," Palin wrote.
Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, was presumably referring to reform critics who have shouted down members of Congress at several town halls around the country over the last week.
House Minority Leader John Boehner and a handful of other GOP leaders have defended the angry reaction at some of the forums.
"Such tactics diminish our nation's civil discourse which we need now more than ever because the fine print in this outrageous health care proposal must be understood clearly and not get lost in conscientious voters' passion to want to make elected officials hear what we are saying," Palin wrote. "Let's not give the proponents of nationalized health care any reason to criticize us."
|
cestmoi
Guest
| Joined: | |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 11:59 pm |
|
BigSurprize wrote: Razenkn wrote: designman124 wrote: Latest Botox Commercial:
NANCY AND STENY HOYER say that PROTESTERS ARE UN-AMERICAN....really?? SAYS WHO?
Trying to stifle free speech IS UN-AMERICAN .....this nasty piece of work needs to go.
I'm think'n Hillary Clinton would disagree with Nancy Pelosi...especially when the shoes on the other foot. Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
Bon Jour!!! I am certain you are able to this because strangers stop you on the street and compliment you on your loveliness, oui?
|
Razenkn
Member
| Joined: | Thu Jun 4th, 2009 |
| Location: | |
| Posts: | 1805 |
| Status: |
Offline
|
|
Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 10:45 pm |
|
BigSurprize wrote: Razenkn wrote: designman124 wrote: Latest Botox Commercial:
NANCY AND STENY HOYER say that PROTESTERS ARE UN-AMERICAN....really?? SAYS WHO?
Trying to stifle free speech IS UN-AMERICAN .....this nasty piece of work needs to go.
I'm think'n Hillary Clinton would disagree with Nancy Pelosi...especially when the shoes on the other foot. Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
ROTFLMAO...my stomach hurts. Oh great, finally got that voice out of my gourd and you brought it back....thanks a lot BigSurprize!
Wouldn't you love to see a shouting match between Hillary and Nancy, maybe throw in Barbara Boxer to try to out snooty talk Nancy. That I would pay to see. I bet they all hate each other.
|
|
|
