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Obama is a neophyte, if not naïve, when it comes to foreign policy.  He thought he could influence Iran and North Korea to open talks on the strength of his charm and oratorical rhetoric.  Instead, they have shown Obama disdain for his diplomatic overtures.  Carter had the same illusion about Communism and   failed miserably.  Will Obama succeed with his”let’s play nice” and “let’s kiss and make up” approach? Probably not.

Obama has focused his attention on domestic issues ‘cuz that’s what he is most comfortable with.  But, he struggles with foreign policy lacking any experience.   He’s learning the hard way and will ultimately have to take a harder line with these rogue nations.   They’re interpreting his recent actions as a sign of weakness.
 

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The first few months were a cake walk:  Executive Orders, Stimulus, Omnibus . . .

He has picked the low hanging fruit, as they say.

Now the going  gets  tougher:  economic  recovery slowing, challenges from within the party, nuclear weapons tests in North Korea,  Israel not giving up West Bank settlements, Afghanistan War, Russia and Brazil unloading Treasurys (China and India to follow?), budget deficit, tax increases, violent extremism, unemployment still rising, etc.
 
The learning curve is getting steeper.

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Michelle Obama has headed home following her visit to France instead of traveling on to Saudi Arabia and Turkey with her husband.  Why is that?  Simply, the Arabs view Obama as a Muslim and by Muslim law, he is not allowed to bring his wife into countries that accept Sharia law and accord her the status she enjoys in the Christian world.
 

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designman124 wrote: The real cost of the NYC trip:

With the White House simply refusing to say how much taxpayer money it spent, here's a helpful way to calculate the cost of the trip:

First, the First Couple (and entourage) flew from the White House to Andrews Air Force Base — three choppers (two decoys), if the Marines stuck to standard operating procedure (and they are sticklers for SOP). That means dozens of men and women — radar, communications, mechanics, crews, everyone, perhaps 100, who knows? — were involved. (A batch of tagalongs must've taken a taxpayer pool of vehicles out from the White House to AAFB, since it took three jets to get the gang to NYC).

Second, the president moving on a Saturday takes a full operation at and around the White House, dozens and dozens of people. Maybe they're all on salary, so that didn't likely cost much. But all the cops involved — D.C. police, uniformed Secret Service officers, Capitol police — were probably paid overtime, even double time. Probably, again, 100 personnel or so.

Then there were the jets — at least $24,000 for the three aircraft used to ferry the Obamas, aides and reporters to New York. The Obamas' jet, a Gulfstream 500, served as Air Force One.

Third, a C-17 had to fly to NYC to put in place a full motorcade (at least a dozen vehicles, maybe more). The military cargo plane may have taken up at least two, but maybe three, more choppers to fly the whole party from JFK to a Wall Street landing zone, where the motorcade was waiting. If not, the choppers flew there solo (White House veteran reporter Mark Knoller of CBS Radio wrote recently that "The VH-3D that serves as Marine One consumes about 1,200 pounds of fuel per hour." Ouch.

Fourth, driving through Manhattan is an expensive exercise. Dozens, perhaps hundreds, of NYPD have to be stationed all along the way, shutting down roads, holding back pedestrians. There were police cars involved, dozens of motorcycles, and the ever-present NYC ambulance (oh, don't forget that the White House doctor also probably went — with all his gear). The city likely gets reimbursed by the White House for the cost (they usually do). And they were all probably getting time and a half (the NYPD overtime budget is extraordinary).

Fifth, the United States Secret Service (USSS) had to scope out the whole thing, then station agents all over — sharpshooters, undercover agents, etc. — at a huge cost. Who knows if they were on overtime. And if you think they went up Saturday morning, think again. They were likely in NYC upwards of a week before, planning the whole evening, every second of every movement. They had to map out five movements — from JFK to the Wall Street LZ, then a motorcade to the restaurant, then another motorcade to the play, then a final motorcade back to the LZ, then a chopper flight to JFK, before the First Couple and crew jetted back to AAFB for another chopper to the White House.

One thing is known — The Obamas picked up the cost of dinner costs and their orchestra seat tickets, which cost $96.50 a piece. So if the whole thing cost $250,000, the Obamas offset that by at least a few hundred bucks. Phew.


SACRIFICE.  Barack Hussein Obama's favorite word....for us.  I know what we and all the people who were inconvenienced so Mr Cool could be "seen" "more magazine photo ops" SACRIFICED but what do you suppose BHO SACRIFICED for his date night? 

 

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The real cost of the NYC trip:

With the White House simply refusing to say how much taxpayer money it spent, here's a helpful way to calculate the cost of the trip:

First, the First Couple (and entourage) flew from the White House to Andrews Air Force Base — three choppers (two decoys), if the Marines stuck to standard operating procedure (and they are sticklers for SOP). That means dozens of men and women — radar, communications, mechanics, crews, everyone, perhaps 100, who knows? — were involved. (A batch of tagalongs must've taken a taxpayer pool of vehicles out from the White House to AAFB, since it took three jets to get the gang to NYC).

Second, the president moving on a Saturday takes a full operation at and around the White House, dozens and dozens of people. Maybe they're all on salary, so that didn't likely cost much. But all the cops involved — D.C. police, uniformed Secret Service officers, Capitol police — were probably paid overtime, even double time. Probably, again, 100 personnel or so.

Then there were the jets — at least $24,000 for the three aircraft used to ferry the Obamas, aides and reporters to New York. The Obamas' jet, a Gulfstream 500, served as Air Force One.

Third, a C-17 had to fly to NYC to put in place a full motorcade (at least a dozen vehicles, maybe more). The military cargo plane may have taken up at least two, but maybe three, more choppers to fly the whole party from JFK to a Wall Street landing zone, where the motorcade was waiting. If not, the choppers flew there solo (White House veteran reporter Mark Knoller of CBS Radio wrote recently that "The VH-3D that serves as Marine One consumes about 1,200 pounds of fuel per hour." Ouch.

Fourth, driving through Manhattan is an expensive exercise. Dozens, perhaps hundreds, of NYPD have to be stationed all along the way, shutting down roads, holding back pedestrians. There were police cars involved, dozens of motorcycles, and the ever-present NYC ambulance (oh, don't forget that the White House doctor also probably went — with all his gear). The city likely gets reimbursed by the White House for the cost (they usually do). And they were all probably getting time and a half (the NYPD overtime budget is extraordinary).

Fifth, the United States Secret Service (USSS) had to scope out the whole thing, then station agents all over — sharpshooters, undercover agents, etc. — at a huge cost. Who knows if they were on overtime. And if you think they went up Saturday morning, think again. They were likely in NYC upwards of a week before, planning the whole evening, every second of every movement. They had to map out five movements — from JFK to the Wall Street LZ, then a motorcade to the restaurant, then another motorcade to the play, then a final motorcade back to the LZ, then a chopper flight to JFK, before the First Couple and crew jetted back to AAFB for another chopper to the White House.

One thing is known — The Obamas picked up the cost of dinner costs and their orchestra seat tickets, which cost $96.50 a piece. So if the whole thing cost $250,000, the Obamas offset that by at least a few hundred bucks. Phew.

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deuce wrote: Have you noticed how Obama deals with divisive issues among parties:

"Let's find some common ground"

He's clearly evidences that he is conflict-adverse every time he uses it.

If you don't take a stand, you can't be held accountable for the outcome.


 


Or...let me be perfectly clear, or....as I've always stated....or quite simply.....blah, blah, blah....JUST WORDS, Just Words....:X:cool:

 

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Have you noticed how Obama deals with divisive issues among parties:

"Let's find some common ground"

He's clearly evidences that he is conflict-adverse every time he uses it.

If you don't take a stand, you can't be held accountable for the outcome.


 

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This is actually minute in the overall scheme of things going on that are really, really bad but I have to get it off my chest anyway, it's annoying the crap out of me. 

BHO takes his bride on a Fairy Tale evening out, jetting out to the Entertainment Capital of the World just like the Hollywackos do it, helicopter rides, closing down the entire area just so he could take Michelle my Belle to dinner and a show.  There have been reports of it costing anywhere from $25,000 - $100,000, probably depending upon calculations of how much it cost the City itself along with all the security and the transportation.  I'm not speaking about the tickets or the meals, that is insignificant and he made it clear he paid for that himself, WOW. 

But :dude:King Obama comes out today and solemnly expounds on what a sad day it is in America with GM declaring bankruptcy and how things will never be better for us but hopefully will be better for our kids and grandkids.  He kept saying it's going to get worse, much worse, more plants will close, more jobs will be lost. 


The government should NEVER be involved in such a takeover of a private enterprise but at the end of the day, the s**t always floats down to us.  His good buddy Union pals have all been looked after.

In the next breath he tells us how WE all need to SACRIFICE, not that we want to but it is necessary in order for our kids to be better off.  Where is HIS SACRIFICE since he's the one who is forcing the bankruptcy now that he's made sure the UAW have their claws into the company along with the 70% government control.  Had they just let this controlled bankruptcy happen last fall, we would be past it by now and they would be coming back and we wouldn't have had to flush $50 BILLION dollars in the meantime down the toilet.

How dare this pompous arrogant rookie come out and tell all of us how WE NEED TO SACRIFICE while he is flying around in jets, helicopters and shutting down cities so that he can go to a show and out to eat with his wife. Aren't there any shows and good restaurants in DC? Or how about staying home?  They have around the clock servants, chefs, and a multitude of entertainment venues just for that reason.  It's too risky and expensive not to mention incredibly inconvenient for all involved for them to go out just to be "seen".


Somebody needs to tell this guy to get over himself.  Really.  Don't come out and lecture us on being frugal and sacrifice when he squanders our money like there is no tomorrow. 

Aren't our leaders supposed to lead by example??  Well, then this is another case of don't do as I do, but do as I say.......what a bunch of saps we've become.:X:cool:



 

 

 


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Awwweee...someone, say deuce, is pretending to be me again...too bad he's not happy being himself.:D

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President Obama has the star power to raise millions of dollars for the candidates and organizations he graces with his stump speech. 

But when the president hit the road Tuesday for a two-day fundraising tour to pack the party coffers, he also was racking up a $265,000 partisan bill for just one leg of the trip, according to a watchdog group -- part of which taxpayers, regardless of party affiliation, will have to pay. 

Obama started out in Las Vegas, where he stumped that night for state Democrats and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. On Wednesday night he was to attend a two-tiered donor dinner for the Democratic Party in Los Angeles.

But sandwiched between political appearances, Obama squeezed in some quick public remarks on energy, ironically before burning fuel to Los Angeles, at Nevada's Nellis Air Force Base. It was a key stop, because it gives the entire trip an air of official legitimacy and allows the White House to write off part of the trip under rules governing travel, said Pete Sepp, vice president for policy and communications at the National Taxpayers Union. 

"You've got to have some official (business) in the trip somewhere. It becomes almost a game to find some official function to hang the trip on," Sepp said. 

The rest, though, is all politics. And, if history is any gauge, the American taxpayer will pick up a large portion of the tab. 

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razenkn wrote: Craig wrote: I heard it was 100K this morning. However he did say he was paying back the equivalent of 2 first class air fare, meal and show tickets. 


Yep, that's the liberal way, Barack Hussein Obama and Pelosi.  Spend hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars on a whim because you are so important and looking out for the little guy and pay back 10 cents on a dollar.  They are nauseating aren't they??:shock::cool:

 

 


Taxpayers footed the bill for the big night on the town, which included a total of at least $24,000 for the three aircraft used to ferry the Obamas, aides and reporters to New York and back. Dinner costs and orchestra seat tickets -- at $96.50 apiece -- were paid by the Obamas.

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Craig wrote: I heard it was 100K this morning. However he did say he was paying back the equivalent of 2 first class air fare, meal and show tickets. 


Yep, that's the liberal way, Barack Hussein Obama and Pelosi.  Spend hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars on a whim because you are so important and looking out for the little guy and pay back 10 cents on a dollar.  They are nauseating aren't they??:shock::cool:

 

 

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I heard it was 100K this morning. However he did say he was paying back the equivalent of 2 first class air fare, meal and show tickets. 

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razenkn wrote: deuce wrote..

Have they publicized his handicap?

The alternative would have been to put together a pick-up basketball game.
(I'm not certain where the construction of the outdoor basketball court stands.)

In either case,
banning the media allows him to enjoy a few puffs.

LOl:D, never thought of that. And here I was trying to read something sinister into it, hahahaha.  Thanks for the laugh deuce, you are probably right. 


How about the fact that BHO and Michelle practically had Manhattan shut down last night so Barack Hussein Obama could keep a "campaign promise to Michelle"??  They had to clear the area several hours prior to the Broadway show, cost the show a 45 minute delay, then went to one of the trendy restaurants to be seen.....that was his campaign promise he kept to Michelle.  Hmmm.  How much did that promise cost the American taxpayer and can you imagine the inconvenience it caused to the regular folks just trying to get to and from work or for those who were trying to have a "date night".  He doesn't care.  He thinks he is owed this and can do whatever he wants no matter at what cost and to whom.  Arrogance run amok.:X

He hired a private jet to take them to NY then the AirForce Helicopter to take them the rest of the way, round trip???  Anyone want to venture how much this whole evening cost us because he promised his little bride to take her to a show?  Does he not understand he's the President of the United States and you can't just go out on the town for the evening without disrupting the entire universe surrounding it??  Think of the increased security alone and he is placing himself and those who are trying to protect him as an open target each time he does this.  Is he stupid or is he really just that arrogant??:shock::cool:



 

Has anyone found out how much this date night cost the American Taxapayer yet??  We need to sacrifice, who is we Barack Hussein Obama?  You surely aren't sacrificing, so you must be talking about us, the taxpayer.  Ooooohhhh, okay, now we get it.  You can spend however much money you want, take a bezillion trips on taxpayers money, have expensive parties in the WH all on our dime but you want US to sacrifice.  I see how that works.  Do you libs get this??:X:cool:

 

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Ms. Boots wrote: MrsF wrote: Ms. Boots wrote: razenkn wrote:  

Memorial Day.  A day of remembrance of all our fallen heroes who fought for our freedom.  A day to remember our loved ones.  Our new Prez did his duty in the morning and laid the wreath at the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier and then ......hit the links baby....hit the links. :shock::shock: He made such a moving speech, heartfelt and sincere and then .....hit the links :shock: but tried to shut out the media.  WHAT??  Since when does the President get to SHUT OUT THE MEDIA????  He doesn't shut out the media when he is having DATE NIGHT, why would he shut them out when he is on the links?? Ohhhhhhhh, maybe he understands it's probably not appropriate on Memorial Day, maybe he should have hit the links on Saturday or Sunday and showed proper Presidential decorum and respect for Memorial Day since it's not just a half day. 

What a classless, clueless, phony baloney inexperienced rookie we are stuck with for the next four years.:X:cool:

 

Gee, rantnrave--which prez are you yapping about?  When in office, Bush announced he was quitting golf in solidarity with the troops in Iraq who were not able to golf...less then one month later, cookiepuss, he was photographed swinging away on some golf course....I notice, dear, you didn't give up your precious computer for Memorial Day...tsk, tsk, tsk.:?


So you are agreeing that Obama is just as bad as Bush was, since you clearly think that what Bush did was bad.  Good to know you don't completely agree with EVERYTHING he does, huh?

Raz didn't need to give up his/her computer for Memorial Day.  First of all, it wasn't Lent and he shouldn't have to sacrifice anything for anyone.  Second of all, he/she isn't the Commander in Chief playing golf on a holiday to remember all who died serving the country.  Yeah, I think it's a little disingenuous.  I guess all of his colleagues were off that day, being that it's a government holiday and all, so they decided to set up a tee time. 

Way to respect our troops there, Mr. Prez!

Context, MF.  Unlike bush, President Obama had given no pledge to the American public that he was giving up golf....Wonder what you and the other uber righties did on Memorial Day...probably stayed in and prayed?  I think not.

Actually I did keep it mellow on Monday.  Thanks for asking.

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MrsF wrote: Ms. Boots wrote: razenkn wrote:  

Memorial Day.  A day of remembrance of all our fallen heroes who fought for our freedom.  A day to remember our loved ones.  Our new Prez did his duty in the morning and laid the wreath at the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier and then ......hit the links baby....hit the links. :shock::shock: He made such a moving speech, heartfelt and sincere and then .....hit the links :shock: but tried to shut out the media.  WHAT??  Since when does the President get to SHUT OUT THE MEDIA????  He doesn't shut out the media when he is having DATE NIGHT, why would he shut them out when he is on the links?? Ohhhhhhhh, maybe he understands it's probably not appropriate on Memorial Day, maybe he should have hit the links on Saturday or Sunday and showed proper Presidential decorum and respect for Memorial Day since it's not just a half day. 

What a classless, clueless, phony baloney inexperienced rookie we are stuck with for the next four years.:X:cool:

 

Gee, rantnrave--which prez are you yapping about?  When in office, Bush announced he was quitting golf in solidarity with the troops in Iraq who were not able to golf...less then one month later, cookiepuss, he was photographed swinging away on some golf course....I notice, dear, you didn't give up your precious computer for Memorial Day...tsk, tsk, tsk.:?


So you are agreeing that Obama is just as bad as Bush was, since you clearly think that what Bush did was bad.  Good to know you don't completely agree with EVERYTHING he does, huh?

Raz didn't need to give up his/her computer for Memorial Day.  First of all, it wasn't Lent and he shouldn't have to sacrifice anything for anyone.  Second of all, he/she isn't the Commander in Chief playing golf on a holiday to remember all who died serving the country.  Yeah, I think it's a little disingenuous.  I guess all of his colleagues were off that day, being that it's a government holiday and all, so they decided to set up a tee time. 

Way to respect our troops there, Mr. Prez!

Context, MF.  Unlike bush, President Obama had given no pledge to the American public that he was giving up golf....Wonder what you and the other uber righties did on Memorial Day...probably stayed in and prayed?  I think not.

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Ms. Boots wrote: razenkn wrote:  

Memorial Day.  A day of remembrance of all our fallen heroes who fought for our freedom.  A day to remember our loved ones.  Our new Prez did his duty in the morning and laid the wreath at the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier and then ......hit the links baby....hit the links. :shock::shock: He made such a moving speech, heartfelt and sincere and then .....hit the links :shock: but tried to shut out the media.  WHAT??  Since when does the President get to SHUT OUT THE MEDIA????  He doesn't shut out the media when he is having DATE NIGHT, why would he shut them out when he is on the links?? Ohhhhhhhh, maybe he understands it's probably not appropriate on Memorial Day, maybe he should have hit the links on Saturday or Sunday and showed proper Presidential decorum and respect for Memorial Day since it's not just a half day. 

What a classless, clueless, phony baloney inexperienced rookie we are stuck with for the next four years.:X:cool:

 

Gee, rantnrave--which prez are you yapping about?  When in office, Bush announced he was quitting golf in solidarity with the troops in Iraq who were not able to golf...less then one month later, cookiepuss, he was photographed swinging away on some golf course....I notice, dear, you didn't give up your precious computer for Memorial Day...tsk, tsk, tsk.:?


So you are agreeing that Obama is just as bad as Bush was, since you clearly think that what Bush did was bad.  Good to know you don't completely agree with EVERYTHING he does, huh?

Raz didn't need to give up his/her computer for Memorial Day.  First of all, it wasn't Lent and he shouldn't have to sacrifice anything for anyone.  Second of all, he/she isn't the Commander in Chief playing golf on a holiday to remember all who died serving the country.  Yeah, I think it's a little disingenuous.  I guess all of his colleagues were off that day, being that it's a government holiday and all, so they decided to set up a tee time. 

Way to respect our troops there, Mr. Prez!

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If I were a New Yorker, I'd be starting to get P.O.'d at him...flying Air Force One into buildings causing panic, shutting down the whole city for all of that time...Sheesh!  Even if I did vote for him, I would still find those antics annoying. 

What's he got against New York anyway?  He seems to be messing with them unnecessarily! 

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razenkn wrote: deuce wrote..

Have they publicized his handicap?

The alternative would have been to put together a pick-up basketball game.
(I'm not certain where the construction of the outdoor basketball court stands.)

In either case,
banning the media allows him to enjoy a few puffs.

LOl:D, never thought of that. And here I was trying to read something sinister into it, hahahaha.  Thanks for the laugh deuce, you are probably right. 


How about the fact that BHO and Michelle practically had Manhattan shut down last night so Barack Hussein Obama could keep a "campaign promise to Michelle"??  They had to clear the area several hours prior to the Broadway show, cost the show a 45 minute delay, then went to one of the trendy restaurants to be seen.....that was his campaign promise he kept to Michelle.  Hmmm.  How much did that promise cost the American taxpayer and can you imagine the inconvenience it caused to the regular folks just trying to get to and from work or for those who were trying to have a "date night".  He doesn't care.  He thinks he is owed this and can do whatever he wants no matter at what cost and to whom.  Arrogance run amok.:X

He hired a private jet to take them to NY then the AirForce Helicopter to take them the rest of the way, round trip???  Anyone want to venture how much this whole evening cost us because he promised his little bride to take her to a show?  Does he not understand he's the President of the United States and you can't just go out on the town for the evening without disrupting the entire universe surrounding it??  Think of the increased security alone and he is placing himself and those who are trying to protect him as an open target each time he does this.  Is he stupid or is he really just that arrogant??:shock::cool:



 

 


I love the way he is such a great father and husband.  It makes him so relatable to all of us.  

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deuce wrote..

Have they publicized his handicap?

The alternative would have been to put together a pick-up basketball game.
(I'm not certain where the construction of the outdoor basketball court stands.)

In either case,
banning the media allows him to enjoy a few puffs.

LOl:D, never thought of that. And here I was trying to read something sinister into it, hahahaha.  Thanks for the laugh deuce, you are probably right. 


How about the fact that BHO and Michelle practically had Manhattan shut down last night so Barack Hussein Obama could keep a "campaign promise to Michelle"??  They had to clear the area several hours prior to the Broadway show, cost the show a 45 minute delay, then went to one of the trendy restaurants to be seen.....that was his campaign promise he kept to Michelle.  Hmmm.  How much did that promise cost the American taxpayer and can you imagine the inconvenience it caused to the regular folks just trying to get to and from work or for those who were trying to have a "date night".  He doesn't care.  He thinks he is owed this and can do whatever he wants no matter at what cost and to whom.  Arrogance run amok.:X

He hired a private jet to take them to NY then the AirForce Helicopter to take them the rest of the way, round trip???  Anyone want to venture how much this whole evening cost us because he promised his little bride to take her to a show?  Does he not understand he's the President of the United States and you can't just go out on the town for the evening without disrupting the entire universe surrounding it??  Think of the increased security alone and he is placing himself and those who are trying to protect him as an open target each time he does this.  Is he stupid or is he really just that arrogant??:shock::cool:



 

 

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Ms. Boots wrote: razenkn wrote:  

Memorial Day.  A day of remembrance of all our fallen heroes who fought for our freedom.  A day to remember our loved ones.  Our new Prez did his duty in the morning and laid the wreath at the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier and then ......hit the links baby....hit the links. :shock::shock: He made such a moving speech, heartfelt and sincere and then .....hit the links :shock: but tried to shut out the media.  WHAT??  Since when does the President get to SHUT OUT THE MEDIA????  He doesn't shut out the media when he is having DATE NIGHT, why would he shut them out when he is on the links?? Ohhhhhhhh, maybe he understands it's probably not appropriate on Memorial Day, maybe he should have hit the links on Saturday or Sunday and showed proper Presidential decorum and respect for Memorial Day since it's not just a half day. 

What a classless, clueless, phony baloney inexperienced rookie we are stuck with for the next four years.:X:cool:

 

Gee, rantnrave--which prez are you yapping about?  When in office, Bush announced he was quitting golf in solidarity with the troops in Iraq who were not able to golf...less then one month later, cookiepuss, he was photographed swinging away on some golf course....I notice, dear, you didn't give up your precious computer for Memorial Day...tsk, tsk, tsk.:?

Have they publicized his handicap?

The alternative would have been to put together a pick-up basketball game.
(I'm not certain where the construction of the outdoor basketball court stands.)

In either case, banning the media allows him to enjoy a few puffs.

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Memorial Day.  A day of remembrance of all our fallen heroes who fought for our freedom.  A day to remember our loved ones.  Our new Prez did his duty in the morning and laid the wreath at the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier and then ......hit the links baby....hit the links. :shock::shock: He made such a moving speech, heartfelt and sincere and then .....hit the links :shock: but tried to shut out the media.  WHAT??  Since when does the President get to SHUT OUT THE MEDIA????  He doesn't shut out the media when he is having DATE NIGHT, why would he shut them out when he is on the links?? Ohhhhhhhh, maybe he understands it's probably not appropriate on Memorial Day, maybe he should have hit the links on Saturday or Sunday and showed proper Presidential decorum and respect for Memorial Day since it's not just a half day. 

What a classless, clueless, phony baloney inexperienced rookie we are stuck with for the next four years.:X:cool:

 

Gee, rantnrave--which prez are you yapping about?  When in office, Bush announced he was quitting golf in solidarity with the troops in Iraq who were not able to golf...less then one month later, cookiepuss, he was photographed swinging away on some golf course....I notice, dear, you didn't give up your precious computer for Memorial Day...tsk, tsk, tsk.:?

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Can I tell you what really scared me?  This infomercial that played last night pushing a program on how we all can grab our fair share of stimulus money by way of these phony government grants.  Satisfied students of this program touted that the money is free and they don't have to worry about paying it back.  It just made me sick to see this whole wealth redistribution being played out in this way.

Our beloved government created a huge money grab.  Money that hasn't even been printed yet and we'll all be getting a bill at the end of the year.  What a mess!

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Memorial Day.  A day of remembrance of all our fallen heroes who fought for our freedom.  A day to remember our loved ones.  Our new Prez did his duty in the morning and laid the wreath at the Tomb of The Unknown Soldier and then ......hit the links baby....hit the links. :shock::shock: He made such a moving speech, heartfelt and sincere and then .....hit the links :shock: but tried to shut out the media.  WHAT??  Since when does the President get to SHUT OUT THE MEDIA????  He doesn't shut out the media when he is having DATE NIGHT, why would he shut them out when he is on the links?? Ohhhhhhhh, maybe he understands it's probably not appropriate on Memorial Day, maybe he should have hit the links on Saturday or Sunday and showed proper Presidential decorum and respect for Memorial Day since it's not just a half day. 

What a classless, clueless, phony baloney inexperienced rookie we are stuck with for the next four years.:X:cool:

 

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Obama, Abbas Push for Solutions as Israel Renews Opposition to Ending Settlement Growth

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WASHINGTON (Associated Press) --  President Barack Obama says Israel must halt the expansion of its West Bank settlements as part of a broader, hard-fought deal toward Middle East peace. The president says Palestinians, too, must do their share by providing security in the West Bank and reducing anti-Israeli sentiment in school and mosques.


Obama's "play nice, boys"  diplomacy won't work any more than it has in the past.  He can't will his way to a Middle East peace.  He just doesn't get it.

Time for a new approach.  Surely Team Obama can come up with something (?).


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In a recent interview, Defense Secretary Gates said American public support for the Afghan war will dissipate in less than a year unless the Obama administration achieves a perceptible shift in momentum.

He said the momentum in Afghanistan is with the Taliban, who are inflicting heavy U.S. casualties and hold de facto control of swaths of the country.

Will Obama's counterinsurgency strategy work as it did for Bush in Iraq? 

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Here is some food for thought:

I will withdraw all troops from Iraq by March 2009

Rising federal debt is a hidden domestic enemy

Government –run health care is extreme and will lead to higher costs

I will go through the federal budget line by line eliminating programs that no longer work

I will root out waste and abuse in the federal budget

I will not send any more troops to Afghanistan.  Counter insurgency didn’t work in Iraq 

I will cut the Federal deficit in half by the end of my first term

I will repeal the ban on gays from serving openly in the military

I agree with the ACLU and will release photos of detainee abuse

Military tribunals are an enormous failure and a legal black hole

 
Our president isn’t quite as he advertised himself.   The realities of governing trump the realities of campaigning.  And we thought Kerry was flip flopper.  It’s going to catch up with him.  You just wait and see.  Hopefully, we'll be able to repair the damage.
 

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Iran tested its longest-range, solid-fuel missile yet today — a launch that displayed Tehran's reach – Israel and U.S. forces in the Middle East.

The test appeared to be in part Iran's response to a positive meeting on Monday between Netanyahu and Barry.

Following that meeting, Barry threatened Iran with further international sanctions if it does not agree to reopen negotiations on its nuclear program by year-end.

Ahmadinejad viewed the deadline by the U.S. as a slap in the face.

His reponse, another missile test.  Nice going Barry.

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What , we have to pay for this? I though it was all free from the government... Isnt that what BHO told us?

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The Senate Finance Committee released a bi-partisan outline yesterday for new taxes to pay for health care reform.  Here are some new and increased taxes being considered:

1.  Tax employees on the value of employer-provided health benefits.  (This puts  Barry in a tight spot since he blasted McCain for supporting new taxes on health benefits during the campaign)

2.  Tax non-profit hospitals not meeting certain government imposed requirements.

3.  Tax sugary drinks (soft drinks, fruit and vegetable drinks, energy and sports drinks, iced teas and coffees, flavored milk and diary drinks)

4.  Eliminate the tax variances between beer, wine and alcohol so they are all taxed at the highest rate.

5.  Limiting the amount workers can contribute to tax-free spending accounts for child/dependent care and medical expenses not covered by insurance.


This should help generate some bucks to pay for the health care overhaul but, it's going to take more than this.  Repealing the Bush tax cuts should help.

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They are all meeting today to see how much in tax hikes it will take to cover his grandiose agenda of CAP and TRADE and HEALTH CARE FOR ALL.  All of us are going to take it in the shorts and just remember when they say it will only cost 1.5 TRILLION dollars more -- be sure to translate that into SOCIALIST SPEAK of only 3 TRILLION dollars more.

All of this is in addition to the TRILLIONS of dollars deficit we are already dealing with.  There is no end in sight. Commrade Barack Hussein Obama won't stop until he is running everything in our Country and he can tell you when can eat and how much and there won't be anyone left that he's not already controlling to stop him.

We will be seeing his photo every where we go, our schools, our government buildings, our malls, our grocery stores, everyone's homes, statues everywhere....just a small glimpse of our future with this new administration all under the guise of "helping the little guy and saving our planet from the non-existent threat of global warming" and the lefties are giving him permission to do so.


Welcome to the official "Democrat Socialist Party" of 2009.  :X:cool:



 

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Liberals are disappointed at Barry’s shift away from campaign promises.  From national security to climate change to immigration liberal groups (like the ACLU) are saying Barry’s recent actions contradict his silver-tongued oratory that he would move dramatically on their issues.
 
After opening his presidency promising to band torture, end secrecy and close Gitmo, Barry has found out the complexities of the security environment.   Those d**ned intelligence briefings make a believer out you, eh.

Barry promised to allow openly gay men and women to serve in the military and then decided not to intervene in the recent firings of gay servicemen by the military.  Oh, Barry.  It’s so much easier campaigning and giving commencement addresses.

Liberals expected Barry to “lead” using his bully pulpit to catapult issues forward. 

That’s just not Barry.  He’s indecisive, conflict-averse, and talks a better game than he plays.  Soon the American public will realize they elected a weak sister. 

You can’t fool the people forever, Barry. 

 


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