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Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2009 03:33 pm |
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| Let's hope that the newly elected council members will be more actively engaged in our city's business, then the ones in office today.
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Posted: Wed Sep 30th, 2009 04:12 am |
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Besides no one in their right mind would call for the renaming of the tennis center and expect to get reelected
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Posted: Wed Sep 30th, 2009 04:03 am |
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| Sorry, did'nt put it out as a joke.
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Posted: Wed Sep 30th, 2009 03:55 am |
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rvukanovich wrote: I am glad that you cleared that up, because they said it was Mike or some one close to him that made that statement. It was just a joke...We need to relax...
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Posted: Wed Sep 30th, 2009 03:52 am |
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| I am glad that you cleared that up, because they said it was Mike or some one close to him that made that statement.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29th, 2009 08:00 pm |
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Brian Lameira wrote: rvukanovich wrote: Now I am being accused of starting rumor's by Brian Lameira.
Mike has never mentioned anything about naming the tennis courts after Joe. Another fact less rumor! Rumors should not be posted unless they have some validity behind it. Facts or your thoughts and ideas should be the only things posted, not rumors! JMHO
I would have to go back and check that, but i think that was my idea. The Joe Johnson Memorial tennis complex. Or something to that effect.
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Brian Lameira
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Posted: Tue Sep 29th, 2009 07:56 pm |
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rvukanovich wrote: Now I am being accused of starting rumor's by Brian Lameira.
Mike has never mentioned anything about naming the tennis courts after Joe. Another fact less rumor! Rumors should not be posted unless they have some validity behind it. Facts or your thoughts and ideas should be the only things posted, not rumors! JMHO
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Posted: Tue Sep 29th, 2009 06:16 pm |
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Oh hey Bob, at least you're not being accused of being more than one person on here. Of course, that could always come next....Keep on keeping on and keep them on their toes! 
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Posted: Tue Sep 29th, 2009 05:39 pm |
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| Now I am being accused of starting rumor's by Brian Lameira.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 05:17 pm |
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Being an informational source, all the information that I acquire should be public knowledge.
If I did not ask for the written information that I received, when was a promise made on my part?
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Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 04:35 pm |
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rvukanovich wrote: This thing between Brian Lameira and Councilman Joe Johnson is becoming weird.
With these strange things going on, don't tell me something that you don't want repeated.
Don't play with us BV, if you know something....spill your guts!!  
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| Are you telling me you can't be trusted? When ever I am asked to keep things to myself, I always follow their request. Those people that can't keep a promise to me can't be trusted, much like a true Politician!
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Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 04:40 am |
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This thing between Brian Lameira and Councilman Joe Johnson is becoming weird.
With these strange things going on, don't tell me something that you don't want repeated.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10th, 2009 04:26 am |
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BS it's because there are 5 threads on this subject so we have to make sure and hit them all.
Bob, make sure you hit all of the threads about your view too, ok?
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Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 05:56 pm |
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| Got it the first time when you posted this info on the other thread...thanks for sharing but why the duplicity?
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Posted: Wed Sep 9th, 2009 05:44 pm |
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Mayor Lyn Truitt
We in District 5 believe that Councilman Joe Johnson no longer lives in his elected district, if this is the case he must relinquish his seat immediately.
I have talked to Joe, who said it would be ok to come to his house to verify that he was living there, I have been denied that opportunity.
As Always, Bob
Hi Bob,
I understand that someone has formally complained which triggers inquiry.
Have a great day!
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 07:43 pm |
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| Wow! Thirtysomething/parent, how long have you carried this about me in your system, thank the lord you finally let it out.
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 07:02 pm |
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rvukanovich wrote: thirtysomething/parent
Who asked for you opinion? God Bless America
Wow Bob! Just like when you were a coucil member. If someone disagreed with you, you dismissed them as if they didn't count. Or is it my screen name and that you think since I'm supposedly in my thirties that my opinion doesn't count. Well Bob I'm into my forties now and have lived in Surprise for over 9 years. I have watched and lived through the city's growing pains. Thank goodness we threw you out or the pain would have been worse. Joe Johnson did alot of good things for this city. Yes,his attitude sucked and he didn't always come across in the best manner,that was his undoing. Now hopefully Mike Woodard will put his money where his mouth is. Who asked for my opinion? You do every time you come on this forum and rake muck about the city council, who at this point and time is better than it has ever been! One more thing Bob.....What have you done that is a positive thing for the city of Surprise?
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 02:54 am |
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Ken
The Councils performance chart looks good, may I ask who prepared it?
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 02:50 am |
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thirtysomething/parent
Who asked for you opinion? God Bless America
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Posted: Thu Sep 3rd, 2009 02:41 am |
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It's good to see your real name now. It must feel good to come out of the closet and really push some buttons, when needed. See you soon.
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 11:59 pm |
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An opinion of the council's performance prepared for you Bob.
Planning and organization: Good.
Energy level: Excellent.
Management control: Good.
Leadership: Good.
Listening: Good-Excellent.
Initiative:Fair- Good.
Decision making: Good.
Problem analysis:Fair-Good.
Stress tolerance: Good.
Sensitivity: Good-Excellent.
Financial&Budget:Excellent
These are ratings based on the council as a unit. Individual ratings would vary .The newly elected council members , having won by large majorities, must have the confidence of the voters. In my opinion, several of the rating dimensions will rise in 2010 and 2011.
Yea, I know Raz, my opinion doesn't make it so. What's your read?
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 10:41 pm |
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| Yes, Bob does have it in for Joe. He was replaced by Joe and has been bitter ever since. Now that Joe has been replaced By Mike,someone who Bob is supposedly a supporter of, We will see how long it takes him to start whining about that. Hey Bob.... Don't go away mad...Just go away!
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 09:17 pm |
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rvukanovich wrote: From a distance, it appears that we will never know if Joe Johnson actually lives in District 5 or not.
You really seem to have it in for Joe Johnson. If he owns the home and it appears that he lives there, so what? His house looks the same to me today as it did a year ago and you really can't tell if someone is living in a home by the outward appearance. I have seen homes in the neighborhood that look like nobody lives in them only to find out that somebody does live in it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 08:55 pm |
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| From a distance, it appears that we will never know if Joe Johnson actually lives in District 5 or not.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30th, 2009 05:57 pm |
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| Has any member of this council made a comment on Joe's actions?
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Posted: Fri Aug 28th, 2009 04:34 pm |
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Cochise,
Is there a definition for a good City Council, if so, how would this council score?
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Posted: Thu Aug 27th, 2009 09:06 pm |
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| Bob, it is just not right to cover the entire council under the same blanket. If one or more individual members are involved in questionable activities, then target specific actions for corrective measures. So many improvements have been made in the last eighteen months even the harshiest mayor/council critic now must use a rifle instead of birdshot when addressing perceived shortcomings. Be specific with your complaints and you will gain respect.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27th, 2009 07:52 pm |
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If you ask me, the City of Surprise is nothing other then pure garbage, when it involves their politicians no wonder business's won't locate here.
The elected officials having their own attorney making over $200,000 a year, paid by us, can do and get away with anything they want. God Bless America.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27th, 2009 07:30 pm |
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This guy is teflon...
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LilyShumLeung
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 03:09 pm |
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Ctty attorney is on record stating he"works for the council". Now, are we supposed to believe Mr. Bailey should be assuming an investigation of Joe Johnson who isone of his bosses. I don't think so. The question of legality should be be referred to a private, neutral investigator.
Mr. Bailey shoud not be put on the spot.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 05:35 am |
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Mr. Johnson called me last night and said he was home, I asked him if I could come over in 15 minutes to verify that he was living there, he said sure, arriving at his house, ringing the door bell and knocking on the front door I got no responce.
This took place at 6:03 pm, at 9:18 pm Joe called and asked when I was coming over.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 05:33 am |
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I hate to tell you this is not as easy as saying i didnt know the guys address so i used his business address. Because Torgerson didnt write him a check. He provided Joe product from his business. If he had written him a check, then Joe bought the signs then we wouldnt have anything to talk about. But it appears that they both may be guilty of violating campaign law. Funny, as much time as torgerson spends trying to get arrested according to his website, he may have found a way that might be harder to defend. Interesting character this guy.
http://jetmediapromotions.com/
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 05:24 am |
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| I'm still trying to find out if Joe lives in District 5. Went by his house tonight. No cars in driveway. Only 1 light on towards the back of the house. In my opinion, I don't think he lives in the house. Does anyone have any info. Maybe Monica from the Arizona Republic can find out something.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 04:41 am |
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| How about $350-400?
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 04:39 am |
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From the Mad Blogger
On July 21, Torgeson donated 48 campaign signs to Johnson. Estimated value: $192. Torgeson's company provides both signs and the sign walkers to businesses across the Valley.
Try and buy those signs for $192.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 03:58 am |
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http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/MoAlonzoDunsmoor/61175
Will you still vote for him now ?
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 03:30 am |
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| To cluster all politicians on the city council into unity is not appropriate. With very minor exception current members act in an atonomous manner. In any group of seven people, some are going to be more vocal than others. Other traits characteristic of human behavior are sure to vary. That is normal. I resent the placement of John Williams in your definition.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 03:24 am |
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Vice Mayor - District 5
Councilman Joe Johnson
Watch Joe's Council Conversations shows
Joe is a small business owner who has lived in Arizona for more than 3 decades. He believes District 5 is moving ahead.
This is to back up what I said on another post.
This is put on the City of Surprise official web site, as Joe being a small business owner, when in reality he has worked for someone most of the time that he has been on the Council. He was working for a company when Mayor Lyn Truitt vouched for him, Lyn must of known or should have known that Joe was not self employed.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 12:20 am |
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I am not supporting Joe Johnson, in this day and age or if you want to call it evolution I am saying, that when supposedly good men and women are elected to public office they all swim in the same water together, and lose their individual identity.
Although he makes mistakes, we need more Sheriff Joe's in local government.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 11:57 pm |
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| Well Bob, if you support JJ after all his ripoffs of the public, then go ahead and vote for him .You know Mike is no shrinking violet. He has been addressing matters of public concern since you were on the council before being kicked off by amaturer politicians.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 11:49 pm |
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Has anyone living in District 5 come up to the plate for Mike Woodard, who has been as quiet as a church mouse since running for office.
I am afraid if Mike was elected he would be another Longabaugh.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 05:05 pm |
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The City of Surprise will post unofficial results of the Primary Election at approximately 8 p.m., September 1, 2009 on the city Web site and Surprise 11.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 04:57 pm |
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When trying to find out if Joe Johnson is living in our District, you get the same cox and bull stories like always from this City and Council.
As Mike Woodard is running against Johnson, I'll wait for his comments on Joe.
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Posted: Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 06:07 pm |
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| It will be interesting to see if the Arizona Republic will support Councilman Joe Johnson in his re-election bid for the council seat in district 5.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 09:49 pm |
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I know the past members have made it work, i am asking you specifically is your new job going to be flexible enough to do it?
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Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 09:23 pm |
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My question to you is how do the current members who have full time jobs do it? They manage....
I have known Joe for 12 years. We are just neighbors, that's it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 08:50 pm |
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| Wasn't Brian an associate of Joe's at one time? How is Brian going to show the public he would be a better councilman than Joe?
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Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 08:36 pm |
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So the only critical thing that i can think is how will your new job interfere with you being a council member? I think thats a legitimate question.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 08:22 pm |
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incongruity wrote: So your at work now, posting on the blog?
hey, like where are you at right now?
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